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My husband is very anti-Catholic. I want to be a Catholic but am not allowed. My husband never fails to tell me things he hears that are against the Catholic Church. The other day he said that he heard on the news that the Catholic Church is being sued in every country in the world due to the sex abuse crisis. The whole world is suing the church over this scandal. Is there any truth to this? Have you heard the same thing?
 
I have not read or heard this but the truth is that it would make some sense if it were true. Young people abused by priests were problems all over the world not just the US. So, if there are law suits over the abuse it would stand to reason that they are happening all over the world. FYI, my husband, of over 40 years, is also extremely anti-Catholic. I try to listen with my ears closed to most of what he says about the Church,but I recognize that his opinions are shared by many people so I try to find out why he feels the way he does.
 
hardly true. and the sex abuse scandal has been grossly blown out of proportion by liberal atheist media. a census was done and less than 3% of all priests worldwide have ever committed such a horrendous act, and there are hundreds of thousands of priests if not a million. and most of them who ever committed abuse were from the 60’s-70’s. the newer generation of priests who are coming out are being trained in much more orthodox ways and are being thoroughly examined, whereas during the 60’s, examinations were very lax.

dont forget also that this sort of thing does not happen in just the Catholic Church, contrary to what many may say. it happens in all religions and not just in religion even, but in the secular world. There are dozens of reports everyday of teachers or husbands abusing kids, but no one ever insults teachers and says that all teachers are child molesters do they? no because they dont hate teachers, they hate the Church. and if a priest commits a scandal, the media jumps on it like a wolf and mauls the Church, because they say “o look the Church which claims to be so holy has sinners in it who commit atrocities. it must be a bad institution.” the world hates us Catholics, it hates the Church. Jesus even says, “Remember if the world hates you, remember that it hated Me first.” they know the Church is of God and that is why they hate it.

i’ve heard more news reports about teachers having sex with children than priests. in fact i’ve never heard a report in my life of a Catholic priest who has committed abuse, at least in my area. additionally, there are way more husbands and fathers who commit abuse than priests. i believe it is around 80% of divorces occur because abuse was a factor. if only 60% of marriages last in the u.s., then take 80% of those 40% of failed marriages, and you see just how many husbands and fathers commit abuse, whether child abuse or whatever. so tell your husband that he is more likely to be a child abuser or whatever than a priest. (i dont know if you actually want to say that as that might come off as a little harsh) but in all seriousness, if people want to sit there and say all priests are molesters, look at the numbers. a husband is more likely to abuse someone than a priest and less than 3% of all priests have ever committed such atrocities… i apologize if i came off as harsh, it is just this whole priest-abuse thing has made me sick and im tired of people saying it.
 
This issues has certainly been one of the most diabolical attacks that Satan has come up with to injure his arch enemy the Church. It was insidious and implemented over a long period of time. The Church was warned by our Lord and the Apostles that there would be wolves in the sheep fold and I in many cases we were far from vigilent.

It is my opinion that this is not about priests that became pedophiles, but about pedophiles who became priests. It is my experience as a police officer that pedophiles often attempt to get into careers where they will have access to youth and children,ie; teachers, coaches, clergy, etc. It is also true that in the vast majority of cases (90%+) in the church that the offenders were homosexual adults and the victims we’re post-pubescent males.

It may not be politically correct to say that it is a homosexual problem more than a meerly pedophilac problem but the facts would bear that out. This causes me to wonder whether the Church should be ordaining homosexuals at all. I know what the CCC teaches us about how homosexuals should be treated, respected and helped as they have an extra heavy cross to bear, but I don’t think that that means that we should ignore this spiritual affliction any more than we would let a visually impaired person drive the bus. By doing so we are doing them a diservice and playing with fire. On the otherhand I have no doubt that there have been Priests with a homosexual orientation who have recognised it for what it is and have never engaged in homosexual acts and have lived chaste lives and served the Lord faithfully.
 
Suing is the key word in the issue, for suing is the extracting money is the key to what the attack is all about…
IN most simple terms, its an issue of people wanting wealth, and their sinfull nature to want, greed, hate, revenge.

A real deep issue is that of suing the Church is the foundation of a secular society that renounces the existence of God. And a secular society calls for Denial of God, removes all that God calls for, and that is the real issue of reality people need to grasp…

If a civlization comes to be Godless, then it is a society devoid of Morality, Clarity, Intergrity, and Harnomy…

Adultry and Murder are both huge Mortal sins agaisnt the Doctrine of the Church, yet the ignorance of government condons and commite both today in unjustified wars of murder of innocent people and abortion, and promotes the act of Premarital sex to school children, adultry… Abortion is the mutilation and murder of children the church fights against, but condoned by laws and government leaders as a prominant act and championed by them at the same time.

Yet thier is a huge promotion of this extraction of wealth against the church… literally amazing that people call themselves followers of Jesus, yet condon the evil government that alows such to be.
Very few can condon such, and yet look on with an expectation they are going to Heaven… that is for sure.

Many dont believe in Hell, but they will when they get there, that is the most exact phrase of today.

A Godless society is NOTHING, but that is the quest of the devil, and many in their ignorance now demand.

People need to stop and ask, do they really want to live in a Godless society, for that is what looking on and condoning todays evil calls for… suing to attain wealth, due to the sins of others is wrong, for its a lack of faith in the realization in Gods mercy and Justice, that will prevail… the action is a sin, condoning of is a sin, but to not forgive others is a sin that condemns one to Helll.

If people came to make the US Godles as Russia is today, that it be deemed to be a Godless society, that God deemed the act to be wrong is erased, but if a society comes to be secular and denial of God. the Church would be eliminated, and their would be no wealth to extract from the Church, and children could be molested because the Government is in denial that God said it was wrong…

Nobody canbe a Priest, its made a Godless society, and children are mere animals after brith as they are today before in the Eyes of a Godless govenrment that promotes abortion…
the greatest act of the Devil is to bring people to attack the Church, for that calls for a Godless society, and renouncing of Gods laws. the community churchs already call for a denouncing of Gods sacraments, a great evil.

A Godless society says the Human has no soul, a mere exisence devoid of eternal salvation to be with God for eternity…that which God calls all to…

Its one Nation Under God people, better wake up to the attack on the Church, which calls for not One Nation Under God, but to make Hell on earth to be.
if you dont believe in Hell, you will when you get there, or bring it to yourself and your children, and thier children to come.
 
This issues has certainly been one of the most diabolical attacks that Satan has come up with to injure his arch enemy the Church. It was insidious and implemented over a long period of time. The Church was warned by our Lord and the Apostles that there would be wolves in the sheep fold and I in many cases we were far from vigilent.

It is my opinion that this is not about priests that became pedophiles, but about pedophiles who became priests. It is my experience as a police officer that pedophiles often attempt to get into careers where they will have access to youth and children,ie; teachers, coaches, clergy, etc. It is also true that in the vast majority of cases (90%+) in the church that the offenders were homosexual adults and the victims we’re post-pubescent males.

It may not be politically correct to say that it is a homosexual problem more than a meerly pedophilac problem but the facts would bear that out. This causes me to wonder whether the Church should be ordaining homosexuals at all. I know what the CCC teaches us about how homosexuals should be treated, respected and helped as they have an extra heavy cross t

o bear, but I don’t think that that means that we should ignore this spiritual affliction any more than we would let a visually impaired person drive the bus. By doing so we are doing them a diservice and playing with fire. On the otherhand I have no doubt that there have been Priests with a homosexual orientation who have recognised it for what it is and have never engaged in homosexual acts and have lived chaste lives and served the Lord faithfully.
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This causes me to wonder whether the Church should be ordaining homosexuals at all. I know what the CCC teaches us about how homosexuals should be treated, respected and helped as they have an extra heavy cross to bear, but I don’t think that that means that we should ignore this spiritual affliction any more than we would let a visually impaired person drive the bus. By doing so we are doing them a diservice and playing with fire. On the otherhand I have no doubt that there have been Priests with a homosexual orientation who have recognised it for what it is and have never engaged in homosexual acts and have lived chaste lives and served the Lord faithfully.
The Church no longer ordains homosexuals or those with a same-sex attraction, and hasn’t done so since 2005. Pope Benedict, as part of his crusade to stop abuse within the Church, changed the policy that permitted those with an SSA to enter holy orders as long as they promised to stay celibate. Pope Benedict ordered in 2005 that the Church “cannot admit in seminaries nor give access to the sacred Orders to those who practice homosexuality, who present deep-seated homosexual tendencies or support the so-called gay culture.” In conjunction with this and other policies, abuse rates plummeted.

Jacataqua, I’ll cross post something I wrote on another thread, as your husband may find the link and information of interest.

The USCCB does an annual audit of all allegations of abuse within the Catholic Church in the U.S. It is published in April for the previous year, so I don’t think 2012 is available yet.

Here is the last report:

usccb.org/issues-and-action/c…ual-report.pdf

The report notes that:

In 2010, only 8 allegations were considered credible by law enforcement.

I’d say the reforms by Pope Benedict are working. The small number of cases are themselves still too many, but show definite improvement in how the Church handles problems, its youth protection programs, and seminary admissions and faith formation policies.

So even for the older cases, 45% of all priests who were accused for 2011 were already deceased, 75% of all priests who were accused for 2011 are either deceased, already removed from ministry, already laicized, or missing; and over 90% of all abuse accusations last year allege incidents from at least two decades ago (the most common time period was from almost 40 years ago: 1975-1979).

Again, this is not to excuse the horrible crimes that did occur, but Pope Benedict made the hard decisions. He correctly recognized the institutional problems and pushed for changes back in the 1980s, as even the NY Times had to acknowledge: nytimes.com/2010/12/02/wo…pope.html?_r=0

Why do Catholics get singled out? Many people hate an organization that says the individual and the government is not the source of moral authority, God is, and that in fact, God established our Church. As many people wish to usurp the role of God, that is a threat to them, and they will do anything they can to tear down the Church because of the failings of its human members. Other institutions get a pass.

The incredible rate of abuse and institutional cover-up in other religions, in schools, in medical care facilities, in juvenile correctional facilities, in the media and the entertainment industry (see the BBC scandal, Michael Jackson, Roman Polanski, and many others) and politics continues and dwarfs the past and certainly the current rate of abuse in the Church.

The Christian Science Monitor reported that
Despite headlines focusing on the priest pedophile problem in the Roman Catholic Church, most American churches being hit with child sexual-abuse allegations are Protestant, and most of the alleged abusers are not clergy or staff, but church volunteers.
These are findings from national surveys by Christian Ministry Resources (CMR), a tax and legal-advice publisher serving more than 75,000 congregations and 1,000 denominational agencies nationwide.
CMR’s annual surveys of about 1,000 churches nationwide have asked about sexual abuse since 1993. They’re a remarkable window on a problem that lurked largely in the shadows of public awareness until the Catholic scandals arose.
The surveys suggest that over the past decade, the pace of child-abuse allegations against American churches has averaged 70 a week. The surveys registered a slight downward trend in reported abuse starting in 1997, possibly a result of the introduction of preventive measures by churches.
Any institution with young people in it will attract predators, as the evil are attracted to and prey on the innocence of the young.

Just yesterday in my hometown newspaper, there was an investigative report on the sexual abuse of juveniles and resulting coverup in state juvenile treatment centers for abuse and addiction in Arizona: azcentral.com/news/articl…nclick_check=1
 
I want to be a Catholic but am not allowed.
You are a grown woman- nobody, not even your husband, has the right to “not allow” you to do something. If he is forcing you to deny something, then I suspect there are other issues other than differences of opinion on matters of religion. I recommend you take this issue to prayer, and take time to study as much as you can about the Faith. The Catholic Faith is our greatest natural treasure- the source of our eternal treasure.
 
Do not let your husband be the ruler of your faith. God Bless you.
 
My husband is very anti-Catholic. I want to be a Catholic but am not allowed. My husband never fails to tell me things he hears that are against the Catholic Church. The other day he said that he heard on the news that the Catholic Church is being sued in every country in the world due to the sex abuse crisis. The whole world is suing the church over this scandal. Is there any truth to this? Have you heard the same thing?
As horrible as this is, it is less than the number of cases occuring in Protestant churches, on average, about 3,500 allegations annually, or nearly 70 per among the predominantly Protestant group.

csmonitor.com/2002/0405/p01s01-ussc.html

thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/04/07/mean-men.html

Here is an objective, unbiased article from Jewish Businessman, Sam Miller.

fratres.wordpress.com/2008/06/24/redemption-comes-through-the-jews-jewish-businessman-sam-miller-whaps-anti-catholic-bias-in-news-media-full-text/

But don’t expect him to believe it or even investigate. My anti-Catholic in-laws won’t even listen to it, they prefer to continue to believe the false presentation of the liberal press.
 
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