Sex abuse non-existant in other Churches?

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The Chicago Trib published a very long letter to the editor today where it was stated that the celebacy rule for Priests is what’s responsible for the sex abuse in the Catholic Church. The writer said that by not allowing Priests to marry, the church has been forced to accept candidates for the Priesthood who are mentally ill. She concluded the letter by stating that **sex abuse is virtually non-existant in other religions that allow married clergy which she said proved that the celebacy thing is a bad idea. **

So my question: I thought I had read that, sadly, there is just as much abuse in the Protestant Churches but it doesn’t get the media attention like the Catholic Church. Is that true & are there any statistics to back that up?
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Sometimes you don’t hear about the sex abuses in Protestant churches because the leaders of those churches, whether it be the pastor, youth pastor, or board members, cover it up.

This happens usually in Fundamentalist churches because they are a tighter community and everyone knows each other and therefore will stick up for each other.

I know someone who attended a youth group at a Baptist church. The youth pastor there was a pervert and was starting to have sexual relations with the some of the youth group members. Well, this someone that I know was molested by this guy even though it was consensual. However, when somebody found out and told the pastor, the pastor simply covered it up so the church would not have a bad reputation. It was covered up successfully for three or four years. Finally, the youth pastor is facing charges but you can only find out about this story in a local newspaper. The story receives minimal coverage and is not mentioned in the city newspaper and obviously not on TV.
 
carol marie:
You are right Anna… we don’t hear about that. And we do seem to hear about the Catholic Priest scandal all the time… so I do think that the media is biased… no suprise there.

Also… I agree that it seems that we hear of Pastors having sexual relationships with those that they counsel… and of course that is wrong & sinful… but I don’t put that in the same catagory as men having sex with boys, do you?
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I sure don’t. Unfortunately, you are “hearing” about what someone wants you to hear. If you really care, go online and Google “Protestant child abuse,” “Orthodox child abuse,” “Jewish child abuse,” and modifications of such phrases. If you stick with it you will find years and years worth of data.

It is overwhelmingly man on adolescent male. Sometimes man preying on younger boy… :mad:

I love the suggestion that perverts should marry women to avoid these things. Now who’s sick? :banghead:

Anna
 
One more thought on why the Catholic Church has bore the brunt of the scandal: money.

The Catholic Church is the largest denomination in the US and moreover, it is organized and keeps records. 90% of the Protestant churches are under 300 members and don’t have as centralized a reporting structure as the Catholic Church (so the RCC is a much easier target for lawyers).
 
carol marie:
As the mother of a 13 year old boy… I’m not sure how that’s supposed to make me feel reassured?
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I always wonder how and when this stuff happens. I was an altar boy for about 10 years and I was never once alone anywhere with a priest. Then again, I guess I really don’t want to know the details…

I guess bad priests wpuld go out of his way to create one-on-one situations. :mad:
 
The Chicago Trib published a very long letter to the editor today where it was stated that the celebacy rule for Priests is what’s responsible for the sex abuse in the Catholic Church. The writer said that by not allowing Priests to marry, the church has been forced to accept candidates for the Priesthood who are mentally ill. She concluded the letter by stating that sex abuse is virtually non-existant in other religions that allow married clergy which she said proved that the celebacy thing is a bad idea.
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This publishing of false information was no mistake by the Tribune’s editors. The Chicago Tribune’s “Letters to the Editor” page has a heavy left-wing bias and a liberal agenda. A good number of the letters published are written by professional, political activists.

How do I know? Pick up another newspaper in another part of the country on the same day and you will find virtually identical letters written, ostensibly, by someone else.

The old Chicago Tribune of Colonel McCormick is long gone. Unfortunately, the Sun-Times is no better.
 
So many people are convinced that it is impossible (or even wrong!) to wait until marriage before having sex that when the Church demands this it is dismissed as out of touch, irrelevant, etc.

It is important for priests to set examples for living according to Church doctrine. If a priest can remain celibate for life then it is not unrealistic to demand that the rest of us remain celibate until marriage. Somehow the logic behind this is lost on too many people. 😦
 
One of the things you didn’t hear during the scandal. Churches with maried clergy have higher rates of pedophilia than does the Catholic church.
You didn’t see comparisons of the Catholic church with other churches.This was an example of Media bias.
In at least 2 countries it was Anglican ministers that were emersed in scandal.
 
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kaymart:
I have no evidence or links to back it up but you hear about Minster’s, Rabbi’s and others cheating on wives, child abuse, I think they are “swept under the rug” because it’s a “family problem” But how about those TV Ministers,a few years ago, Jim Bakker and that chubby guy(sorry his name escapes me, but he cried–“I have sinned!”) he was with a hooker. I was so tired seeing them on the news so much that “my mascara” started to run too:rolleyes:
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Jim Bakker was convicted for financial improprieties, not on sexual misconduct.
 
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that chubby guy(sorry his name escapes me, but he cried–“I have sinned!”) he was with a hooker.
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That was Jimmy “the anti-Catholic” Swaggart.
He was “caught” with prostitutes twice that I recall.
He’s back on the air. I saw him a couple weeks ago on TV preaching about…adultry.
 
He’s back on the air. I saw him a couple weeks ago on TV preaching about…adultry.
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Ah. A clear case of someone who is practicing what he preaches, n’est-ce pas?
 
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mercygate:
Jim Bakker was convicted for financial improprieties, not on sexual misconduct.
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Wasn’t he with that Jessica Hahn??? I could be wrong, but I thought that was him. If I’m wrong sorry Mr. Bakker
 
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That was Jimmy “the anti-Catholic” Swaggart.
He was “caught” with prostitutes twice that I recall.
He’s back on the air. I saw him a couple weeks ago on TV preaching about…adultry.
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Thank you for the name, I was racking my brain trying to think of it! All I could think of was his blubbering, crying mug on TV “I have Sinned” :rolleyes: could not remember his name.
 
Sex abuse is and always has been a terrible problem. The catholic Church has no more or less of it than any other organization of equivalent size I would guess. What makes it apalling is that the predators are those we are raised to trust the most.

What troubles me more than the actual abuse cases, horrible though they are, are the cover-ups and outright complicity on the part of many other priests and bishops, maybe because many of them were involved also.

It seems to me that somehow a culture evolved in some clerical circles where this behavior was if not endorsed, not condemned either. I personally think that the Churches view on sexuality in general was probably at least a contributory factor. Another factor I think would be the general de-emphasis on sin in the Church today.

As far as other churches, I’m sure that they all have skeletons in their closets as well. However, the Catholic Church is a huge target, much larger and easier to hit than the others.
 
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kaymart:
Wasn’t he with that Jessica Hahn??? I could be wrong, but I thought that was him. If I’m wrong sorry Mr. Bakker
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There were some sort of sexual relations between Jim Bakker and Jessica Hahn. Put in “Jim Bakker Jessica Hahn” in Google and search. :bigyikes:
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carol marie:
The writer said that by not allowing Priests to marry, the church has been forced to accept candidates for the Priesthood who are mentally ill. She concluded the letter by stating that **sex abuse is virtually non-existant in other religions that allow married clergy which she said proved that the celebacy thing is a bad idea. **
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I would like to add that this lie that sex abuse is non-existant in other religions seems to constitute pure hate against Catholics. I guess that the Klu Klux Klan is active again. :bigyikes:
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Which church always had the deepest pockets? The Catholic church,of course. That is one reason why the sharks and victims targeted the $$$$$Catholic church.
As far as finding out who the pedophiles are you can always check Megan’s Law. You can even sign up to have Megan’s Law send you updates every time an offender moves into your area. It is unbelievable how many are living RIGHT NEXT TO YOU!!! There are millions of them in America…I have yet to be notified that a Priest has been identified as a molester. Of course all these millions of molesters have no money so they will not make the headlines. Lawyers are not interested in them…unless THEIR rights are violated. In the apartment industry it is considered against the law not to rent to a child molester “simply” for that reason.
 
On the CNN web site tonight there is a story about two millionaires who are feuding over a parking spot. All sorts of weird things, puncturing tires, flipping birds, et cetera.

One is a politician. Guess how the other guy, a lawer, got all of his money!!! Suing the Catholic Church over sex abuse cases. :tsktsk:

cnn.com/2005/LAW/10/06/feuding.neighbors.ap/index.html
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harinkj:
There were some sort of sexual relations between Jim Bakker and Jessica Hahn. Put in “Jim Bakker Jessica Hahn” in Google and search. :bigyikes:
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yeah they had an affair I thought I was right.
 
RE :Harinkaj # 38
Unlike lawyers working for the bishops who got paid no matter what. When the Scandal was first coming to light .Most lawyers took the case for the victims on consignment sort of .They only got paid if they won. The Odds at first were much against them.Right now the lawyers are still the big winners.The bishops continue to fight disclosure of their offenses so the lawyers are stil getting paid.
 
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