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My newspaper today (I live in CT) there was an article about a public school near me having a table set up in the cafeteria for freshman with an array of birthcontrol pills, devices and instructional literature. There were also condoms (which some boys grabbed handfuls of to impress friends) and videos of STD’s. There was also a discussion group where students could win prizes for answering questions correctly. From what I gleaned from the article, there was no mention AT ALL of not doing it, just being informed. Is chastity thought of as so defunct that it can’t be “thrown in there” as an alternative?
It wasn’t my chid’s school (although that might be soon) but I wondered if this is the norm…info but just what P.Parenthood wants to promote?
 
Sadly, this is heavily promoted by those at PP and many schools buy into it.

As a parent, I suggest you contact STOPP, a division of American Life League. They have a book called Parent Power that discusses how to get this offensive type of “sex ed” OUT of your schools.

Good luck.
 
Promoting sex like that seems to me like pushing one’s problem on everyone so that it stops being just one’s problem and appears normal. It may even be guilt-ridden on a psychological level if one were to delve deep into it.

Personally, I voice my opinion, invited or not, whenever there is a discussion and certainly when I’m asked, and I don’t care what happens. There’s only so long one can tolerate obvious lies and a widespread psychosis.
 
My high school (10 years ago) had sex education and free condoms for students. However, to get the free condoms, you needed to go to the counsellor’s office. They didn’t interrogate you, but you had to be seen. That discouraged some people from taking condoms to show off to their friends.

The sex education class went something like this:
  1. If you have sex, you are putting yourself at risk of these diseases: __, __, __ and __. Here are some pictures of people whose lives were ruined by catching sexual diseases. Here are pictures of the horrible symptoms of those diseases.
  2. Also, even if you think you’re mature, you aren’t prepared for the emotional consequences of having sex. And no, not everyone is doing it.
  3. Having sex more often damages relationships than helps them. You have to have a strong relationship before having sex.
  4. If you become a parent at your age, your life plans will be permanently ruined. You won’t have time to grow up. You’ll get a terrible job at a burger joint or gas station to buy diapers and formula. You won’t get the chance to go back to school. Your whole life, you’ll regret not waiting. You will love your child, but you will regret that you didn’t wait longer to have him or her.
  5. If you have a child at your age, they are more likely to repeat your mistakes. They’re not going to thank you for bringing them into the world without the means to support them.
  6. Even if you use condoms, you are still at great risk of getting a disease or getting pregnant. Here are some more pictures of the horrible consequences of not using condoms.
  7. Thank you for attending this class. When you’re tempted to have sex, please remember the consequences of your actions. And if you ignore this lesson and make a terrible mistake, don’t say we didn’t warn you. Sex without a condom is like russian roulette. Don’t do it. Sex with a condom is slightly less dangerous, but still stupid. If you do it, be safe. There’s an abstinence support group that can help you learn how to say no. Here’s the number. If you need condoms, go to the counsellor’s office. Dismissed.
I was pretty impressed with the contents of our sex-ed classes. Now, ten years later, I still remember the lessons from that class. My friend and I joked that those are the longest-lasting lessons we learned from high school. My friend just got married, and she joked how hard it was to get over her fear of the consequences of sex that she learned in that sex-ed class in high school. I still remember those pictures of horrible diseases and infections people got from sex.
 
There seems to be many people who think that teenagers don’t have the self control to prevent themselves from having sex. Oddly these same people believe that teenagers can have the self control to remember to take the pill or use an uncomfortable condom.

If I was an adolescent I would be insulte by this mindset.
 
That makes me angry. If that went on at my school, I’d be complaining like all get out.
 
deb1 said:
There seems to be many people who think that teenagers don’t have the self control to prevent themselves from having sex. Oddly these same people believe that teenagers can have the self control to remember to take the pill or use an uncomfortable condom.

If I was an adolescent I would be insulte by this mindset.
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I am insulted by that mindset.
 
debraran said:
My newspaper today (I live in CT) there was an article about a public school near me having a table set up in the cafeteria for freshman with an array of birthcontrol pills, devices and instructional literature. There were also condoms (which some boys grabbed handfuls of to impress friends) and videos of STD’s. There was also a discussion group where students could win prizes for answering questions correctly. From what I gleaned from the article, there was no mention AT ALL of not doing it, just being informed. Is chastity thought of as so defunct that it can’t be “thrown in there” as an alternative?
It wasn’t my chid’s school (although that might be soon) but I wondered if this is the norm…info but just what P.Parenthood wants to promote?
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Boo Hoo.
I hate to say it, but teens/young adults are going to want to experiment, and if i was the parent, i would realise
“If my kid (as long as they’re 18 or over) is gonna have sex, at least make sure he/she is safe.”
If you want your kid to learn catholic morals, send them to a catholic school, or failing that teach them your beliefs at home.
The whole reason its called a PUBLIC school is because its open to the PUBLIC not just christians/catholics, because not every one is a christian or a catholic, so despite what you hope, they are not going to be teaching about god or abstinence.
 
Good, it would of been nice if they mentioned possibly waiting to your in a commited relationship, but it’s fantastic that their teaching them to be safe.
 
Teen4Christ said:
No I get it, I just have a viewpoint that differs from others on this forum.
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Which dictates that since they are educating teens about sex, it must be a good thing?

No. What they are doing is giving teens more incentive to have sex.

It’s like “if you can’t beat them, join them”

Which is immoral, and NOT the way of Christ. Christ never changed most of the people living at the time, but did he give up and start changing his way to please them or join them?

Never did, he did what was moral. What is immoral is handing out condoms and letting them continue with this behaviour.

The root cause will remain undiagnosed and the implications will be reaped in the years to come.
 
Wammy101 said:
Boo Hoo.
I hate to say it, but teens/young adults are going to want to experiment, and if i was the parent, i would realise
“If my kid (as long as they’re 18 or over) is gonna have sex, at least make sure he/she is safe.”
If you want your kid to learn catholic morals, send them to a catholic school, or failing that teach them your beliefs at home.
The whole reason its called a PUBLIC school is because its open to the PUBLIC not just christians/catholics, because not every one is a christian or a catholic, so despite what you hope, they are not going to be teaching about god or abstinence.
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So in other words, let’s let it continue to happen right? Whether you meant that or not, your attituded reflects exactly that. Which is contradictory to Christ’s way.

Christ didn’t go “well since most people are not going to believe me and since I will be crucified by my own people maybe I should only preach to those I know that will listen to me and let others do as they want”
 
JFonseka said:
Which dictates that since they are educating teens about sex, it must be a good thing?

No. What they are doing is giving teens more incentive to have sex.

It’s like “if you can’t beat them, join them”

Which is immoral, and NOT the way of Christ. Christ never changed most of the people living at the time, but did he give up and start changing his way to please them or join them?

Never did, he did what was moral. What is immoral is handing out condoms and letting them continue with this behaviour.

The root cause will remain undiagnosed and the implications will be reaped in the years to come.
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Lots of teens already have the incentive to have sex, this helps keep them safe.
 
My daughter just finished high school last may. Let me tell you the stories she would tell me, how kids think about having oral sex like we go shopping. They would talk so freely about sex and compare each others sex lifes. Kids are having kids, thats the true facts.We need to get them more info and yes protection, weather we like it or not.

Mary
 
tigster said:
My daughter just finished high school last may. Let me tell you the stories she would tell me, how kids think about having oral sex like we go shopping. They would talk so freely about sex and compare each others sex lifes. Kids are having kids, thats the true facts.We need to get them more info and yes protection, weather we like it or not.

Mary
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The original post was not against teaching any sex ed, just against not teaching abstinence along with that education.

Let me point out…apparently the mind set is that children won’t have the ability to control themselves. Yet, we expect them to have enough control to use a condom-which is not the greatest feeling thing to use.

Please someone tell me how a person can have the ability to remember to put on a condom but not be able to stop themselves from having sex?

By the way, when I was younger kids were not having oral sex in school. Yes, there were many who were sexually active but guilt did prevent public displays of sex.

Each succeding generation seems to have lost gradually lost more and more of the ability to feel guilt.
 
Wammy101 said:
Boo Hoo.
I hate to say it, but teens/young adults are going to want to experiment, and if i was the parent, i would realise
“If my kid (as long as they’re 18 or over) is gonna have sex, at least make sure he/she is safe.”
If you want your kid to learn catholic morals, send them to a catholic school, or failing that teach them your beliefs at home.
The whole reason its called a PUBLIC school is because its open to the PUBLIC not just christians/catholics, because not every one is a christian or a catholic, so despite what you hope, they are not going to be teaching about god or abstinence.
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As long as they are 18?

I am not against sex ed if abstinence is taught as the best method to employ.Personally, I am not against telling children about condoms but also teach them about abstinence.

When I was in school we were basically lied to. Condoms, we were told, protected you against every STD. They did not tell us about HPV and that condoms are worthless against this virius.

I agree though that more Christian parents should pull their children out of public school.
 
For clarification,l was not offended by the teaching of birth control, etc. I do realize that other religions and famililes don’t follow the Catholic faith. BUT I don’t think morals are just Catholic.
My biggest beef was that it wasn’t mentioned AT ALL that just not doing it is an alternative. Many teens are not emotionally ready for sex and that is why I think it is made into an “extra curricular” something done just for fun. Even then, many of them are traumatized by rejection or other things. I haven’t met too many people my age (40s) that wouldn’t take back any early sexual activity they had.
I think it should be an option along with the others in public school. I know kids will ignore it, but in some communities, just seeing someone else say it was “cool” made them voice their opinion and everyone knows groups give you security.

I know when my daughters caught an end to a somewhat corney Pure Love show, they said they wished the kids in the audience were at their school. The guy doing it they didn’t bond with, but the students they thought were nice.
 
Teen4Christ said:
Lots of teens already have the incentive to have sex, this helps keep them safe.
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Yea, and your flawed premise is that because they have the “incentive” to have sex, no one can do anything about it, and hence condoms should be distributed.
WRONG

did you even read what I just said?

Lots of people also had a lot of incentive to go against Christ’s teachings, it was in their eyes. Incentive is subjective. What are the incentives to have sex besides pleasure?

With sex comes what usually in the natural world? Until you are ready to have children, sex should not be an option. Your name says ‘teen4christ’. I am assuming you have read Jesus’ stance on premarital sex right.

You’d also like to know, birth control existed in the early christian days, as far back as Jesus’ time even. ‘Coitus Interruptus’, the early church fathers AND the early christians condemned the use of birth control.
 
What I am upset about is not the birth control issue specifically. It’s what they are promoting by doing this.

They are just saying, “ok you win, have sex, but use these”

This is just opening the flood gates. Instead of standing strong.

I know birth control is mainly a denominational thing. I’m less upset by married couples that use it, because that’s a different issue altogether.
 
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