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alitaptap
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Do you think sex education for primary and secondary schools is the ideal measure to stop the spread of STIs, STDs and to lower down teen pregnancy rates in any country?
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Will_B
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One word answer: No…Do you think sex education for primary and secondary schools is the ideal measure to stop the spread of STIs, STDs and to lower down teen pregnancy rates in any country?
It’s the job of the parent to teach the values that involve sex education. It’s also the job of the church to help the parent to teach those values.
Problem… Most parents have passed that job to the State, which have a much different moral value and agenda then parent and church.
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JohnDamian
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Offering practical guidance and advice about the dangers of pre-marital sex would be a good optional provision in schools. But in general, it is the parent’s job.Do you think sex education for primary and secondary schools is the ideal measure to stop the spread of STIs, STDs and to lower down teen pregnancy rates in any country?
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Advocatus_Fidei
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Nope instead what it will do is result in children raping each other as has happened in the UK recently with an 11 year old boy raping an 8 year old girl.
You tell a kid about sex at that age they are going to want to do it and they don’t understand that no means no, nor do the girls even understand that they should say no a lot of the time at that age, they are to innocent to even really understand what they are doing, but they will do it all the same.
You tell a kid about sex at that age they are going to want to do it and they don’t understand that no means no, nor do the girls even understand that they should say no a lot of the time at that age, they are to innocent to even really understand what they are doing, but they will do it all the same.
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alitaptap
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How far does the church have gone in assisting parents to teach the values that involves "sex education”? The church is not successful in that drive. This is the issue here.One word answer: No…
It’s the job of the parent to teach the values that involve sex education. It’s also the job of the church to help the parent to teach those values.
How come parents have passed their responsibility to the state? Who are they to be blamed - Their friends? The Media? the Internet? The parents themselves?Problem… Most parents have passed that job to the State, which have a much different moral value and agenda then parent and church.
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The_Bucket
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Do I think it’s ideal? No. Do I think it’s necessary? Unfortunately, yes. Look, public health is indeed a public issue, even if sexuality is private. STDs/STIs are very serious in and of themselves, but some can lead to cancer for young women and girls should know about that.
My parents tried to shelter me as a kid, but by middle school I knew how condoms worked and all of that. Well sort of; I thought there was a risk of STDs between unprotected partners even if one was not a carrier when I first learned about them, which kind of scared me since I knew the Church’s position on birth control A quick health/infectious disease lesson changed that really quickly.
My wife’s parents are both doctors. She and her siblings knew all about various diseases, including STIs at younger ages and knew how babies came about at very young ages, though in all clinical terms.
That knowledge didn’t make us do anything wrong when we were kids, teens, college students, etc. We were both chaste until marriage thank you very much because while we had intellectual knowledge of sex, we also knew the moral truths of it as well. I don’t think you should be handing third graders books about STIs or puberty or anything like that. But by the time middle school rolls around it is an issue. Parents should reserve the right to remove their kids from class if they’re uncomfortable with the subject matter and teachers should never teach anything from a moral perspective, but public health is just that, a public issue.
My parents tried to shelter me as a kid, but by middle school I knew how condoms worked and all of that. Well sort of; I thought there was a risk of STDs between unprotected partners even if one was not a carrier when I first learned about them, which kind of scared me since I knew the Church’s position on birth control A quick health/infectious disease lesson changed that really quickly.
My wife’s parents are both doctors. She and her siblings knew all about various diseases, including STIs at younger ages and knew how babies came about at very young ages, though in all clinical terms.
That knowledge didn’t make us do anything wrong when we were kids, teens, college students, etc. We were both chaste until marriage thank you very much because while we had intellectual knowledge of sex, we also knew the moral truths of it as well. I don’t think you should be handing third graders books about STIs or puberty or anything like that. But by the time middle school rolls around it is an issue. Parents should reserve the right to remove their kids from class if they’re uncomfortable with the subject matter and teachers should never teach anything from a moral perspective, but public health is just that, a public issue.
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St_Francis
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I think the main problem with most sex ed in schools is that they do not teach that the *best *way to avoid all these dire consequences is to *not have sex *until after marriage. Duh! But instead they give kids a false sense of security by telling them ways of “preventing” these things from happening.
The problem is that this sort of pragmatic, non-judgemental approach does not reduce sexual activity, and in fact has been shown to *increase *sexual activity.
This is a job for parents. Parents who believe in the moral good of abstaining until marriage will not only teach their children the facts, they will also *instill virtue, *something for which the schools are not known, and this virtue will help the children to abstain until marriage.
The problem is that this sort of pragmatic, non-judgemental approach does not reduce sexual activity, and in fact has been shown to *increase *sexual activity.
This is a job for parents. Parents who believe in the moral good of abstaining until marriage will not only teach their children the facts, they will also *instill virtue, *something for which the schools are not known, and this virtue will help the children to abstain until marriage.
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edwest2
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The propaganda presented in the early 1970s was that parents, who had kids, were not competent to teach their own kids about sex. So, experts nominated themselves to teach children and young adults about sex.
This was followed by a statement that basically said, Abandon all hope for chastity. Your kids will have sex and there’s nothing you can do about it. But fear not, we experts will give them sex education.
In 1960, there were two STDs of serious concern, today there are over twenty. One in five people are walking around with an STD. Almost 48% of black women have genital herpes.
Sex education has not improved anything. Adult Bookstores have not improved anything. Nor have strip clubs, porn on cable and the internet. The Hippie cry for Freedom has led to disease, sex addiction and porn addiction.
It has also led to a core false belief: You, that’s right, you, can’t control your own sexuality.
God bless,
Ed
This was followed by a statement that basically said, Abandon all hope for chastity. Your kids will have sex and there’s nothing you can do about it. But fear not, we experts will give them sex education.
In 1960, there were two STDs of serious concern, today there are over twenty. One in five people are walking around with an STD. Almost 48% of black women have genital herpes.
Sex education has not improved anything. Adult Bookstores have not improved anything. Nor have strip clubs, porn on cable and the internet. The Hippie cry for Freedom has led to disease, sex addiction and porn addiction.
It has also led to a core false belief: You, that’s right, you, can’t control your own sexuality.
God bless,
Ed
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Pug
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No. Knowledge alone is not always very helpful to the young. Role models are more helpful. So are safe environments, with supervision (a vanishing sort of place, though). Plus I think each child deserves the careful teaching of their parent, who loves them and will take the individual time to answer all their questions, without peers in the room to influence the questions, perhaps by making one too shy to ask what they really what to know, or by creating a platform for exhibition.Do you think sex education for primary and secondary schools is the ideal measure to stop the spread of STIs, STDs and to lower down teen pregnancy rates in any country?
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Bookcat
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NO.Do you think sex education for primary and secondary schools is the ideal measure to stop the spread of STIs, STDs and to lower down teen pregnancy rates in any country?
NO.
and oh…NO.
(One should also read the document from the Church vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/family/documents/rc_pc_family_doc_08121995_human-sexuality_en.html and there is another one called ‘Family Values vs safe sex’ by Cardinal Trujillo of the Pontifical Council for the Family)
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PatriceA
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I agree. And having my daugher just have the “puberty talk” at school and she telling me some of the naive questions the other students asked during the talk, it is apparent many parents are not doing anything about the situation at home.Do I think it’s ideal? No. Do I think it’s necessary? Unfortunately, yes. Look, public health is indeed a public issue, even if sexuality is private. STDs/STIs are very serious in and of themselves, but some can lead to cancer for young women and girls should know about that.
My parents tried to shelter me as a kid, but by middle school I knew how condoms worked and all of that. Well sort of; I thought there was a risk of STDs between unprotected partners even if one was not a carrier when I first learned about them, which kind of scared me since I knew the Church’s position on birth control A quick health/infectious disease lesson changed that really quickly.
My wife’s parents are both doctors. She and her siblings knew all about various diseases, including STIs at younger ages and knew how babies came about at very young ages, though in all clinical terms.
That knowledge didn’t make us do anything wrong when we were kids, teens, college students, etc. We were both chaste until marriage thank you very much because while we had intellectual knowledge of sex, we also knew the moral truths of it as well. I don’t think you should be handing third graders books about STIs or puberty or anything like that. But by the time middle school rolls around it is an issue. Parents should reserve the right to remove their kids from class if they’re uncomfortable with the subject matter and teachers should never teach anything from a moral perspective, but public health is just that, a public issue.
I just want to be included, within the school’s process of educating my daughter on this subject.
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alitaptap
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I took the liberty of posting Department of Education’s answer on Sex Education issue in the Philippines for your comments.
Source: mb.com.ph/articles/260720/deped-explains-sex-education-plan
Source: mb.com.ph/articles/260720/deped-explains-sex-education-plan
DepEd explains sex education plan
By Ina Hernando-Malipot
Sex education is not all about making love.
This clarification was made by the Department of Education (DepEd) last Friday after drawing strong opposition from the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines (CBCP) against the plan to teach sex education to elementary pupils and high school students when classes start on June 15.
The statement was made by Education Secretary Mona Valisno after Malacañang asked the DepEd to defer its plan to integrate sex education in the basic curriculum until consultations are done with Church leaders and after addressing the concerns of the CBCP.
Valisno clarified that classroom discussions on sex education that will be piloted in almost 160 schools — 79 public high schools and 80 elementary schools — is not about the sex act but “on the science of reproduction, physical care and hygiene, correct values and the norms of interpersonal relations to avoid pre-marital sex and teen-age pregnancy.”
She said the contents of the modules that will be integrated in core subjects are scientific, informative, and are not designed to titillate prurient interest. “For example in science, the reproductive system and reproductive cycle have always been part of the curriculum, including the changes that happen during puberty,” Valisno said.
The DepEd chief also emphasized that “the role of teachers is to educate young people on issues that directly affect them and empower them to make informed choices and decisions.”
Valisno said sex education will be integrated in science; Edukasyong Pantahanan at Pangkabuhayan (EPP); health; Heograpiya, Kasaysayan, at Sibika; and mathematics. Under Science, topics on the reproductive system, parts of the body, reproductive cycle, and puberty are discussed. EPP, on the other hand, will integrate proper behavior among and between peers of different genders.
The health component of MAPEH (Music, Arts, PE and Health) covers personal hygiene and reproductive health.
Valisno elaborated that sex education will be taught in social studies topics under Heograpiya, Kasaysayan, at Sibika such as the position of religion on pre-marital sex and the norms when people of opposite sex interact. In mathematics, students will use data on issues like pre-marital sex, teenage pregnancy, and sexually transmitted infections in their mathematical analysis and exercises in statistics.
“Among those who prepared the modules are psychologists because we want to ensure that specific topics for discussions will be made in the appropriate year levels,” she said. Also, the topics requiring a more mature audience are discussed in the latter years in high school.
Based on the reports from DepEd, two batches of teachers who will be using the modules have already been trained, while a third batch is being prepared for training this year.
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Lutheranteach
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I think it’s a vital PART of the solution, not the total or only solution. How can we not have some basic level of reproductive system knowledge (maybe not explicit mechanics) in primary school when it’s not all that uncommon for 4th and even 3rd graders to start having periods?Do you think sex education for primary and secondary schools is the ideal measure to stop the spread of STIs, STDs and to lower down teen pregnancy rates in any country?
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Major_Tom
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Agreed, and to the OP, I think it depends how you define “sexual education”. If it is things like body awareness, or “Boys and girls, you do not show your private parts to people, other than your mommy and daddy”, then fine. The “sexual education” that you might offer a 7th or 9th grader should obviously be much different than that for a 3rd grader.I think it’s a vital PART of the solution, not the total or only solution. How can we not have some basic level of reproductive system knowledge (maybe not explicit mechanics) in primary school when it’s not all that uncommon for 4th and even 3rd graders to start having periods?
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edwest2
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It has been a great failure. One in five people in the United States has an STD. About 48% of black women have genital herpes.
Things have not gotten better.
Parents should be the primary educators of their own children regarding this topic, not the State.
God bless,
Ed
Things have not gotten better.
Parents should be the primary educators of their own children regarding this topic, not the State.
God bless,
Ed
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RoseRed2
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I don’t think so personally. I mean, how are they teaching about sex? Of course they’re going to mention condoms which don’t always prevent those diseases anyway, right?
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