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I am a female who does not have a sexual relationship with her husband. I can’t remember the last time we were intermit. To tell you the truth, he blames my anger problem. I think that’s not fair. I have not had an issue with anger in a long time but he still is not interested in me sexually. I really resent him! I also thinks he is jealous of other husbands wives. What should I do? I really am fed up. I’m bitter at him. Why can’t he give me what I want?
 
Perhaps you and MainBrain should talk to each other. Or perhaps you are MainBrain with a new screen name?
 
I am a female who does not have a sexual relationship with her husband. I can’t remember the last time we were intermit. To tell you the truth, he blames my anger problem. I think that’s not fair. I have not had an issue with anger in a long time but he still is not interested in me sexually. I really resent him! I also thinks he is jealous of other husbands wives. What should I do? I really am fed up. I’m bitter at him. Why can’t he give me what I want?
For some reason, some of us will never know fulfillment and contentment. I’m afraid you’ll have to settle for God’s love. You’ll have to repress all the hurts, wounds, disappointments, slaps in the face (metaphorical or real), and pretend God is a dream father who takes good care of you. Good luck with that.

P.S. Try and find one thing, one solitary thing more sterile than God’s love. Betcha can’t.
 
I am a female who does not have a sexual relationship with her husband. I can’t remember the last time we were intermit. To tell you the truth, he blames my anger problem. I think that’s not fair. I have not had an issue with anger in a long time but he still is not interested in me sexually. I really resent him! I also thinks he is jealous of other husbands wives. What should I do? I really am fed up. I’m bitter at him. Why can’t he give me what I want?
Have you talked to him about it or suggested marriage counselling? By the tone of your post I’m afraid you sound like a kid who can’t have what she wants but isn’t interested in working towards it.
 
Why don’t you PM MainBrain? You guys have so much in common.

(Feel free to ignore that advice if you are MainBrain.)
 
For some reason, some of us will never know fulfillment and contentment. I’m afraid you’ll have to settle for God’s love. You’ll have to repress all the hurts, wounds, disappointments, slaps in the face (metaphorical or real), and pretend God is a dream father who takes good care of you. Good luck with that.

P.S. Try and find one thing, one solitary thing more sterile than God’s love. Betcha can’t.
I hope someday you experience God’s love, and the fulfillment it brings. May God make Himself known to you and bless you.
 
I am a female who does not have a sexual relationship with her husband. I can’t remember the last time we were intermit. To tell you the truth, he blames my anger problem. I think that’s not fair. I have not had an issue with anger in a long time but he still is not interested in me sexually. I really resent him! I also thinks he is jealous of other husbands wives. What should I do? I really am fed up. I’m bitter at him. Why can’t he give me what I want?
You said he will not give you what you want and also that he said it is because of your anger, and you admit that you resent (synonym for anger, bitterness, ill will) not getting what you want.

The feeling of disappointment stems from desire, and the desire is natural for your marriage, but also from that unfulfilled desire may arise vengeance which is always uncharitable. This lack of love can perpetuate the lack of intimacy, because then the spouse would have to preform solely on basis of duty in the marital relationship, which could be very difficult to accomplish, although proper.
 
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I am a female who does not have a sexual relationship with her husband. I can’t remember the last time we were intermit. To tell you the truth, he blames my anger problem. I think that’s not fair. I have not had an issue with anger in a long time but he still is not interested in me sexually. I really resent him! I also thinks he is jealous of other husbands wives. What should I do? I really am fed up. I’m bitter at him. Why can’t he give me what I want?
I understand what you’re going through. In my case, I’ve begun to look at it as a worldly attachment that I need to part with. Spouses are supposed to help us get to heaven. I used to think that meant cooperation in our vocation but I’m starting to believe that isn’t necessary. If a spouse refuses to help with the desires of the flesh, it just means you must focus and double your efforts. Our Lord suffered rejection and the servants are not greater than the master.

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Our culture teaches us that “sex is a right”. This teaching causes us to invert the blessings of God and create the opposite of what was intended.

Try to parallel the marital act to recieving the Holy Eucharist. We are taught to recieve the Holy Eucharist after baptism, confirmation, and the sacrament of reconcilłiation (dating, marriage, and when reconciled to each other). When there is a wrongdoing (disagreement ) there needs to be a contrite request for forgivness, and a penance (way to make it up to the spouse who was hurt). As practicing Catholics, we are asked to recieve the Holy Eucharist once a year when reconciled to God ( does this mean the same for the marital act? ) … But we are urged to confess often and recieve the Eucharist often (it’s probably good for the marital act too)

Do we have a right to demand recieving the Holy Eucharist (marital act)? How do we respond when we are not reconciled to recieve the Holy Eucharist (marital act)? Do we stand in line, bow, and recieve the Eucharist when we are not reconciled (have the marital act when not in love)? Meditate on these until you have peace.
 
OK what if her husband stop wanting to do anything with her, go out to eat, go to movies, watch TV, talk at all, see friends, then what would you say? Should she just go to Church, alone? Is that a marriage. Sexual intimacy is the closest you can be to someone. It brings you together in a way nothing else can, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and physically when you in love with the other person. It is a terrible kind of rejection when a spouse doesn’t want to have sex with you.
 
I am a female who does not have a sexual relationship with her husband. I can’t remember the last time we were intermit. To tell you the truth, he blames my anger problem. I think that’s not fair. I have not had an issue with anger in a long time but he still is not interested in me sexually. I really resent him! I also thinks he is jealous of other husbands wives. What should I do? I really am fed up. I’m bitter at him. Why can’t he give me what I want?
It’s tough when we get locked in to these sorts of vicious circles: he blames your anger, which makes you angry, which leads him to keep blaming your anger, which keeps making you angry.

The solution is – and this isn’t always easy – to remove yourself from the circle as much as possible. Do your best to let go of the anger and the bitterness and the resentment. Show your husband that you love him. Don’t get baited into any of the usual arguments (those arguments that tend to pop up over and over again).

This will likely not yield any immediate results. Sometimes, when there is a lot of emotional baggage, it will take time before your husband realizes he can let it all go. Be aware that it may take some time for him to realize that you have made such changes. Sometimes, when we are so used to things “always being that way”, we gloss over that which does not fit into our pre-conceived notions and latch onto anything that confirms it. Thus, you may find yourself trying very hard to be anger-free for several weeks, but then one hint of an outburst will leave your husband thinking “There she goes doing what she always does.”

The important thing is to communicate with each other. Let him know that you are trying your best. Let him know that you are trying to be better, but that you need his help. It is far more likely for you to stay on the path to improvement if he notices and affirms your efforts and does not jump all over you for any back-sliding.

And the most important thing of all is to pray with each other. Every day.
 
OK what if her husband stop wanting to do anything with her, go out to eat, go to movies, watch TV, talk at all, see friends, then what would you say? Should she just go to Church, alone? Is that a marriage. Sexual intimacy is the closest you can be to someone. It brings you together in a way nothing else can, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and physically when you in love with the other person. It is a terrible kind of rejection when a spouse doesn’t want to have sex with you.
How can a person who’s afraid of their spouse (due to anger) accept and offer closeness: mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and physically? Paralleling this to the Eucharist … How can a person who is not reconciled to God recieve all of Gods graces in the Eucharist. Both, healing and Reconcilliation is the medicine needed.
 
How can a person who’s afraid of their spouse (due to anger) accept and offer closeness: mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and physically? Paralleling this to the Eucharist … How can a person who is not reconciled to God recieve all of Gods graces in the Eucharist. Both, healing and Reconcilliation is the medicine needed.
Who said her spouse was afraid of her? Anger doesn’t mean violence. If he is like my husband, she cannot simply have a disagreement with him without him getting all upset and taking it personally. The first time I said no to sex with my husband, 13 years into our marriage, over a very good reason, he wouldn’t have sax with me again for three weeks. We had never gone more than 2-3 day with sex until that point. He was so insulted and sensitive. He did it to punish me and still does it if he doesn’t like something I say. I think her husband is doing and it doesn’t get anyone anywhere it just dives them further apart
 
OK what if her husband stop wanting to do anything with her, go out to eat, go to movies, watch TV, talk at all, see friends, then what would you say? Should she just go to Church, alone? Is that a marriage. Sexual intimacy is the closest you can be to someone. It brings you together in a way nothing else can, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and physically when you in love with the other person. It is a terrible kind of rejection when a spouse doesn’t want to have sex with you.
Yes, I agree that it is a terrible kind of rejection. No one is arguing that, nor is anyone saying this is an easy situation to be in. Going to Church alone might not be easy, and may not cause her husband to desire her sexually (at least not directly). But getting right with God will help her let go of the resentment, allow for forgiveness and healing in her marriage, and give her comfort when she’s struggling. So what would you suggest instead of the advice that’s been given?

It’s a hard message to hear, and even harder to live with, but here it is:
You cannot control someone else’s behavior. You can only control the way you respond.

So it doesn’t matter who is in the wrong. The objective of marriage is not to “get what I want,” but rather, to give of yourself in love to your spouse. Even (or especially!) when your spouse is not giving the same. It’s not easy, but any worthwhile relationship takes some sacrifice.

When we marry, we make vows before God to love and honor our spouse, in sickness and in health, etc. And there is not any line in there that says, “…IF you do the same,” or, “…IF you keep me happy,” etc. Here’s the thing: Marriage is a covenant, not a contract. When I make that vow, it means that I am responsible for doing my part, even if my spouse is not doing his.

I suspect that because of the bitterness, there is disrespect and less giving (especially in the “little things”) from the OP to her spouse. Perhaps she needs to stop pursuing her husband sexually, and instead let him “chase” her for a while. Or perhaps she needs to focus on some self-care, such as meeting with some fun friends for lunch who won’t engage in husband-bashing and won’t bring her down. Or perhaps she just needs to back off and give her husband a little space for a while and she can focus on getting her own therapy for the anger/bitterness/resentment issue.

That said, it is not easy to keep giving to a spouse who is rejecting you, especially when you are trying to improve your own faults that have caused problems in the past. It’s hard to feel unloved and rejected by the very person you most want to love. The reason posters here suggest turning to Jesus is because he’s been through it. He knows what it’s like.

Still, you may be pouring effort into some areas that are unnecessary, and neglecting or overlooking other areas that may do more good (and take the same or less effort). I’d suggest a few books that may help (check your library first):

Love and Respect (Eggerichs)
For Women Only (Feldhahn)
The Five Love Languages (Chapman)
Marriage 911 (Alexander)
Surrendered Wife (Doyle)
- Note: I don’t agree with everything in this book, but it does offer some practical and useful information and ideas.

HTH. Will :gopray2: for you!
 
Yes, I agree that it is a terrible kind of rejection. No one is arguing that, nor is anyone saying this is an easy situation to be in. Going to Church alone might not be easy, and may not cause her husband to desire her sexually (at least not directly). But getting right with God will help her let go of the resentment, allow for forgiveness and healing in her marriage, and give her comfort when she’s struggling. So what would you suggest instead of the advice that’s been given?

It’s a hard message to hear, and even harder to live with, but here it is:
You cannot control someone else’s behavior. You can only control the way you respond.

So it doesn’t matter who is in the wrong. The objective of marriage is not to “get what I want,” but rather, to give of yourself in love to your spouse. Even (or especially!) when your spouse is not giving the same. It’s not easy, but any worthwhile relationship takes some sacrifice.

When we marry, we make vows before God to love and honor our spouse, in sickness and in health, etc. And there is not any line in there that says, “…IF you do the same,” or, “…IF you keep me happy,” etc. Here’s the thing: Marriage is a covenant, not a contract. When I make that vow, it means that I am responsible for doing my part, even if my spouse is not doing his.

I suspect that because of the bitterness, there is disrespect and less giving (especially in the “little things”) from the OP to her spouse. Perhaps she needs to stop pursuing her husband sexually, and instead let him “chase” her for a while. Or perhaps she needs to focus on some self-care, such as meeting with some fun friends for lunch who won’t engage in husband-bashing and won’t bring her down. Or perhaps she just needs to back off and give her husband a little space for a while and she can focus on getting her own therapy for the anger/bitterness/resentment issue.

That said, it is not easy to keep giving to a spouse who is rejecting you, especially when you are trying to improve your own faults that have caused problems in the past. It’s hard to feel unloved and rejected by the very person you most want to love. The reason posters here suggest turning to Jesus is because he’s been through it. He knows what it’s like.

Still, you may be pouring effort into some areas that are unnecessary, and neglecting or overlooking other areas that may do more good (and take the same or less effort). I’d suggest a few books that may help (check your library first):

Love and Respect (Eggerichs)
For Women Only (Feldhahn)
The Five Love Languages (Chapman)
Marriage 911 (Alexander)
Surrendered Wife (Doyle)
- Note: I don’t agree with everything in this book, but it does offer some practical and useful information and ideas.

HTH. Will :gopray2: for you!
I am not saying to not turn to God for strength, but if he is with holding sex it is likely he is with holding other things, like respect. If she as dealt with her anger issues, he needs to forgive and move on to heal there marriage.

Are you saying if this continues, she should just keeping praying and live in this marriage that he might have abandon already. A marriage takes two. I don’t think even God himself would ask anyone to stay in a marriage that they want to get better only to be continually rejected. To live out their lives day in and day out facing that person.

I am not saying don’t turn to God for strength
 
I am not saying to not turn to God for strength, but if he is with holding sex it is likely he is with holding other things, like respect. If she as dealt with her anger issues, he needs to forgive and move on to heal there marriage.
True, he should, but my point is that no one can force him to do that; he must decide to do that himself… and he is not the one here seeking advice, so what he should do is beside the point. When we think too much about what others should be doing, we can’t focus on what we should be doing! She cannot change him, but she can change her own behavior, in part to try and get a different response from her husband.

I would also suggest that from the tone of her post, it doesn’t sound like she’s entirely dealt with her anger issues–there appears to be more work to do. And… I suspect that the lack of respect is mutual.
Are you saying if this continues, she should just keeping praying and live in this marriage that he might have abandon already. A marriage takes two. I don’t think even God himself would ask anyone to stay in a marriage that they want to get better only to be continually rejected. To live out their lives day in and day out facing that person.
I am saying that it is certainly a possibility that she is being called to do that. :eek:

God didn’t say our lives would be all sunshine and roses–He told us we would struggle, but that He would be there for us when we do. God also did not say that marriage was all “happily ever after,” and when it’s not, He didn’t say we can just leave because it’s hard to stay (see Mark 10 and Matthew 19). Marriages take work, especially really good marriages. It takes real effort, and when we screw up and treat our spouse badly, it may take some time to make up for that and allow that hurt to heal before we expect too much giving in return. So I’m saying that it’s very likely that she needs to put more (time, effort, prayer, patience, and love–but maybe not by “chasing” him) into her marriage before she gives up on it.

God Himself often asks us to do very difficult things, and I think he HAS asked some people to stay in a difficult marriage, in suffering–but remember, too, that (AFAIK) there is no proof or indication in the OP’s marriage that things will be this way for the rest of their lives. She may need to be patient. What will things be like six months from now? A year from now? We can’t assume that nothing will change in that time… although, by making changes to her own behavior and expectations, and by improving her own relationship with God, she might help those changes along.

Yes, he “might” have abandoned the marriage–but you and I don’t know that he has, and it doesn’t sound like the OP really knows that at this point, either. He is likely still hurt and angry right now, and yes, afraid (probably not physically, but there are many kinds of fear). Yet these things can be overcome with time and love, so there is still hope for the marriage. Leaving, OTOH, isn’t likely to save the relationship or get her what she wants–which is to resume her sexual relationship with her husband, and (I’m assuming) to have a good marriage. So how would leaving get her that? Especially if she leaves without doing all she can to repair the relationship.

Not to make light of the situation, but it’s kind of difficult to have sex with your husband… when you aren’t with your husband, don’t you think?

I’m not saying that there will never be a point where she might have to separate from him if he obstinately refuses to forgive her and refuses intimacy long-term (though I think she should probably get advice from her priest and/or a spiritual director before she takes that step). I am saying that she should not take the separation route too soon–there are still a lot of possible things she can try, even if he is stubborn.

Also remember that if she separates from him, she will be alone (and still married). That’s generally not an easier or any happier place to be (despite the “grass is greener” mentality so many of us seem to have). 😦
 
unless there is cause for annulment, we are all called by God to remain in the sacrament of marriage which ‘no man shall separate’.
 
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Thorns:
Is marriage really only just about sex?
Of course not and it’s not about money either. If you have an inadequate supply of either it turns into a pretty big deal because needs are not being met.

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