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What if before one hears the call to Priesthood, one has been addicted to sexual acts, or not that but pornography and such…?

And what about when one has answered yes to the Call but still falls into that type of habitual sin.
Should one keep on discerning and trying, or stop and eliminate the sin first…?

And could it even be a sign that Priesthood is not for you…? Or is that another lie of the the anti-vocations one?
 
What if before one hears the call to Priesthood, one has been addicted to sexual acts, or not that but pornography and such…?

And what about when one has answered yes to the Call but still falls into that type of habitual sin.
Should one keep on discerning and trying, or stop and eliminate the sin first…?

And could it even be a sign that Priesthood is not for you…? Or is that another lie of the the anti-vocations one?
The devil is a very strong force…and even he believes in God. So, we have to fight against these forces…and know that God’s will …will prevail. I pray that you will continue to discern…if God is truly calling you, you will know. Things will fall into place. You will feel a great sense of peace, I would imagine, as I do when God is calling me to a particular ‘something.’

As for your ‘addictions.’…keep going to Confession regularly…keep praying…draw upon the strength of Christ…remember…many of Jesus’ Apostles fell. Look at Peter…who betrayed him three times. When we become addicted to things outside of God’s plan, we too are betraying him in a sense, albeit not verbally. But…the good news is that Jesus came to help us, not condemn us. ‘Go and sin no more.’ Know that you are human…but in your weakness, God is your strength.

Praying for you!:gopray2:

Your sister in Christ,
Sharon
 
very awesome
thnx for the prayers, i need all I can get

the thing is that i kno so mch better still i fall
i follow my pleasure
n somtimes i even turn my back on God, like earlier on
i kno He’s calling me to quit wut im doing at the moment, but I say “later Lord, i will repent later”
no matter what I do, no matter what I think of…
it takes so much time for me to come to my senses

n sometimes I even keep sinning after coming to my senses and coming a a little “repentance”…
or last week I confessed in the morning n fell at night. confessed the next night n fell next morning…
:-/
 
very awesome
thnx for the prayers, i need all I can get

the thing is that i kno so mch better still i fall
i follow my pleasure
n somtimes i even turn my back on God, like earlier on
i kno He’s calling me to quit wut im doing at the moment, but I say “later Lord, i will repent later”
no matter what I do, no matter what I think of…
it takes so much time for me to come to my senses

n sometimes I even keep sinning after coming to my senses and coming a a little “repentance”…
or last week I confessed in the morning n fell at night. confessed the next night n fell next morning…
:-/
Sin is something very insidious…if it knocked on our door with a pitchfork and horns…we would run the other way…but, sin is sneaky. You go to Confession…and then it sneaks up on you again…maybe it surprises you because it takes a different direction. In our act of contrition…at the end, we recite…‘and to avoid near occasions of sin.’ If you get to the heart of what drives you to that ‘near occasion of sin…’ you will begin to see a stoppable pattern. Everything has a beginning to it…even our sin. Go back to the beginning of your addiction…and you will see what led you to it…and once you get over that…probably the addictive behavior will cease…and of course, all of this through the grace of God.🙂
 
What if before one hears the call to Priesthood, one has been addicted to sexual acts, or not that but pornography and such…?
Seminary formation includes spiritual direction, and daily Mass, and confession whenever you need it. Through service, and healthy friendships you learn to think about others more than yourself. The seminary life, the courses seminarians take (on moral theology, spirituality, sexuality, celibacy, etc.) and the spiritual direction many receive before beginning seminary formation will help someone a lot in this area.
And what about when one has answered yes to the Call but still falls into that type of habitual sin. Should one keep on discerning and trying, or stop and eliminate the sin first…?
You are sanctified by following your vocation. You don’t become sanctified, then follow your vocation.
And could it even be a sign that Priesthood is not for you…? Or is that another lie of the the anti-vocations one?
That is a lie of the devil. If you work on your prayer life, and honestly try to live the commandments, and through your discernment and with the help of a spiritual director/vocations director, you feel you should go to the seminary, then you should go. We do not need perfect priests- God is perfect- if we needed perfect priests, God would do it all Himself with no interaction on our part. We need humble priests. We need reverent priests. We need pious priests.
 
it has been ceasing, but sometimes I fall and at others I seek my own fall (this happens more often)
and my weak will does not avoid the occasion of sin always…
😦

I have always thought that maybe I would be more faithful to a girl than to Christ, at least till the addiction is over…
of course, a girl that would not be a temptation to me…

now, if such was found, wud the end justify the means? I’d feel as if I’m using her, knowin that at the end I’m most likely gonna leave her for Priesthood…
 
Seminary formation includes spiritual direction, and daily Mass, and confession whenever you need it. Through service, and healthy friendships you learn to think about others more than yourself. The seminary life, the courses seminarians take (on moral theology, spirituality, sexuality, celibacy, etc.) and the spiritual direction many receive before beginning seminary formation will help someone a lot in this area.

You are sanctified by following your vocation. You don’t become sanctified, then follow your vocation.

That is a lie of the devil. If you work on your prayer life, and honestly try to live the commandments, and through your discernment and with the help of a spiritual director/vocations director, you feel you should go to the seminary, then you should go. We do not need perfect priests- God is perfect- if we needed perfect priests, God would do it all Himself with no interaction on our part. We need humble priests. We need reverent priests. We need pious priests.
wow
full of truth
thank u a lot!
 
I would explore these issues with a Spiritual director.

It may be possible for you to come to terms with this and be delivered prior to ordination. Certainly, not something to be ordained with and deal with while functioning as a Priest.

You may have to approach this like alcoholism where you deal with it day by day and it may necessitate you putting of Religious life while you deal with this issue.

You sound rather confused, we do not know you and the issue and that is why I would go to a Spiritual director and in a confidential manner be honest about your situation and what you need to work through.

May God give you strength and peace as you deal with this issue. Remember that God loves you so do not give up working towards being freed of this addiction.
 
I would explore these issues with a Spiritual director.

It may be possible for you to come to terms with this and be delivered prior to ordination. Certainly, not something to be ordained with and deal with while functioning as a Priest.

You may have to approach this like alcoholism where you deal with it day by day and it may necessitate you putting of Religious life while you deal with this issue.

You sound rather confused, we do not know you and the issue and that is why I would go to a Spiritual director and in a confidential manner be honest about your situation and what you need to work through.

May God give you strength and peace as you deal with this issue. Remember that God loves you so do not give up working towards being freed of this addiction.
Yeah, so far he adviced that is better to keep doing God’s will and keeping out of mortal sin… is difficult at times, but I’m making progress.
Problem is my spiritual director was gone for like a month to get Ordained (Praised be Jesus Christ!) and came back for like two days and left again with his order to give retreats.
He comes back the 14th, whcih is in bout 3 weeks.
This summer has been a true test from God, I’d say… But so far I’m still passing, stumbling now and then, but keeping up.

Keep me in your prayers, still.

If things get bad, I’ll probably come back again and maybe be more detailed about the situation. So far this doesn’t seem as necessary.

God bless n thnx!
 
J1Priest,

God’s Providence is truely amazing. I just joined the Catholic Answers Forum to ask nearly the same question.

I grew up in a Protestant (Southern Baptist) household. My dad’s entire family are actually ex-Catholics. I have always felt a very, very strong attraction to the Catholic faith. Watching EWTN as a child I would pretend to say mass and would also imagine myself as a monk (that is until my parents told me that watching EWTN would brainwash me). Unfortunately, as I got into Middle School and High School, I made a lot of sinful mistakes, and got involved with a lot of things I shouldn’t have.

I “came out” to my parents my Senior year of High School and they reacted about as you would expect any Southern Baptist parents would. I had my first boyfriend, and at this point I had been addicted to pornography for years (I started in 6th grade).

In the next 2 years I would have over 30 male sexual partners.

By the grace of God however, I was blessed to get accepted to a Catholic University, where through God’s merciful grace he drew me to his Church.

Having said that, I do not consider myself “gay” or “homosexual”. I simply view myself as a sinner who indulged in sexual sin. It has taken me lots of prayer and dedication to overcome my addiction to pornography, but thanks to God’s grace he has untangled me from the bondage of this sin.

I am discerning a vocation to the priesthood as well. My major concerns though are my past. I know that God can forgive anybody, but can someone who has lived such a publicly scandolous lifestyle be admitted into Christ’s Holy Priesthood? Theoretically I realize that the answer is yes, but practically, I think that because the type of life I lived is such a political issue now I don’t even know if people would understand the situation or my conversion. The Church has already had so much recent trouble with pedofiles and all, that I fear I would only be stereotyped by my regretably sinful past. I don’t want to be known as “the gay priest”.

Can anyone help shed some light on this issue?

J1Priest, stay true to Christ’s message of ultimate freedom through his Church! Know that you can do anything through Christ. May God Bless you and help you overcome your struggle. My prayers are with you.
 
I’d also like to say that as far as your struggles with sin go, that they might be a way that Satan tries to keep you out of his priesthood.

I often think that a lot of the temptations I had were because of my vocation to religious life at an early age. Satan wanted to keep me out, and did everything in his power too.

My natural inclination to be single in highschool (not dating girls) was twisted by Satan to mean that me not dating girls means I should date boys. Luckly, I now know that being a true man is following in the footsteps of Christ.

I would also say that you should most definantly deal with any addictions you have before entering into religious life. Pull the thorn out of your eye before you pull the splinter out of theirs type of thing.

Anyways, I hope that helps, and may God Bless.
 
Yeah, so far he adviced that is better to keep doing God’s will and keeping out of mortal sin… is difficult at times, but I’m making progress.
Make sure you set your sights higher than, ‘keeping out of mortal sin.’ If that’s all that you do, it’ll be dangerous, because you’ll be living a life to avoid sin rather than to please God at all times.

The first step to doing this is to try your best to detach yourself from this sin. St. Francis de Sales explains this.
ALL the children of Israel went forth from the land of Egypt, but not all went forth heartily, and so, when wandering in the desert, some of them sighed after the leeks and onions,—the fleshpots of Egypt. Even so there are penitents who forsake sin, yet without forsaking their sinful affections; that is to say, they intend to sin no more, but it goes sorely against them to abstain from the pleasures of sin;—they formally renounce and forsake sinful acts, but they turn back many a fond lingering look to what they have left, like Lot’s wife as she fled from Sodom. They are like a sick man who abstains from eating melon when the doctor says it would kill him, but who all the while longs for it, talks about it, bargains when he may have it, would at least like just to sniff the perfume, and thinks those who are free to eat of it very fortunate. And so these weak cowardly penitents abstain awhile from sin, but reluctantly;—they would fain be able to sin without incurring damnation;—they talk with a lingering taste of their sinful deeds, and envy those who are yet indulging in the like. Thus a man who has meditated some revenge gives it up in confession, but soon after he is to be found talking about the quarrel, averring that but for the fear of God he would do this or that; complaining that it is hard to keep the Divine rule of forgiveness; would to God it were lawful to avenge one’s self! Who can fail to see that even if this poor man is not actually committing sin, he is altogether bound with the affections thereof, and although he may have come out of Egypt, he yet hungers after it, and longs for the leeks and onions he was wont to feed upon there! It is the same with the woman who, though she has given up her life of sin, yet takes delight in being sought after and admired. Alas! of a truth, all such are in great peril.
Be sure, my daughter, that if you seek to lead a devout life, you must not merely forsake sin; but you must further cleanse your heart from all affections pertaining to sin; for, to say nothing of the danger of a relapse,
these wretched affections will perpetually enfeeble your mind, and clog it, so that you will be unable to be diligent, ready and frequent in good works, wherein nevertheless lies the very essence of all true devotion. Souls which, in spite of having forsaken sin, yet retain such likings and longings, remind us of those persons who, without being actually ill, are pale and sickly, languid in all they do, eating without appetite, sleeping without refreshment, laughing without mirth, dragging themselves about rather than walking briskly. Such souls as I have described lose all the grace of their good deeds, which are probably few and feeble, through their spiritual languor.
I post this, and have on these boards multiple times… because I find these words to be so essentially true. If you give up the sin, but don’t give up wanting and desiring that sin, how can you expect to overcome it ever? Do your best never to wish you could have the sin were it lawful. It is hard, but apply yourself to it, with God’s grace, daily.

As long as we pine for the sin, which is especially powerful when it comes to sexual sin, we’re going to be ripe to fall right back into the sin next time the sin presents itself.

I don’t mean to seem harsh here.

Do you pray? How much do you pray? Do you understand prayer? Read a book like, “What is Contemplation?” by Thomas Merton, or, “Fire Within” by Fr. Dubay to find out what exactly it is that God wants to lead you into, in prayer, and devote yourself anew to prayer and the sacraments (see my posts here and here).

He who perseveres to the end will be saved. God bless.

-Rob
 
Thank you for posting that quote from St. Francis de Sales book. Actually I have that book being mailed to me right now. The Msgr. that I meet with about my discernment suggested that I read that. It was so interesting, the part you quoted, that I know I will be able to truly read the whole book. That’s good for me, cause I get bored easily.
Do your best never to wish you could have the sin were it lawful.
That sentence is awesome. Never heard it, but needed to. It’s profound in my opinion.
 
J1Priest,
God’s Providence is truely amazing. I just joined the Catholic Answers Forum to ask nearly the same question.
Welcome and peace!

I am sympathetic to this matter as I too have dealt with all of these issues.

At this time, however, B16 has ruled that homosexual inclinations and experience bar entrance to the priesthood.

cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=39700

This does not, then, preclude a vocation amongst a monastic community or lay institute.

Have you ever had contact with Miles Jesu? The sanctity and dedication of the laity that I have witnessed there - many of them under a vow of chastity to serve the Church - is, very simply, amazing and awe-inspiring.
 
Can anyone help shed some light on this issue?
Brother,

I would start developing a relationship with a spiritual advisor as soon as you can. Call your parish office and arrange an appt. with a Priest. Also, draw close to Our Mother in your prayers and turn to her in your times of weakness.

The issue of same sex attraction is a “hot button” right now, and whether you pursue a vocation to the Priesthood, or the Religious life, the struggle with SSA will always be there. The current guidelines say that someone with a “deep seated” homosexual tendency should not be considered for a vocation, but someone with a transitory same sex attraction in the past can be eligible. A good Priest will be able to give you more authoritative advice and better spiritual direction than anyone here, though.

God has his hand on you and no sin has power over you. God go with you!
 
To all,
all your prayers have really been felt, because for the first time since my addiction (7+ years) I am able to be on the PC (doing apoletics and debating) and not going into bad stuff, even when I’m alone.
Temptation has come veeeery greatly, but I can only guess that your prayers are the ones that have given me the strenght to say no, even if it’s a weak now.

The St Francis de Sales quote was simply awesome. I even reposted in on myspace (even on the groups where I do my apologetics). This will help those who truly are seeking a solution out of this (like me), plus it will lead them to think “wait a minute, a Catholic saint wrote this? wow!” hehe.

I will try to apply… no, I WILL apply it to my life, and the advice to “not wish to sin when it is lawful” too, which is what i’m doing right now: I have made a promise to God through this very good friend of mine that I would not fall into mortal sin, especially chat and stuff, until she comes back…
It’s been 3 weeks, she comes back next week, but then a week after I will be living on campus (a Catholic university) so things will be much smoother.

As for JesusisPeace,
wow, I bet it takes a lot of courage to come out like that and admit to those things. i myself am ashamed of admitting to pornography at times, but i know that when time comes, I will use it for the greater glory of God through my testimony.

Let us keep praying and focusing on God… Which sometimes it’s tough while at home… :-/

again, thank you all and keep the prayers up!

God bless
 
Ok, I followed the advice of St. Francis de Sales and been praying for God to take my desires away… but it seems the more I pray, the more they come… :-/
 
Ok, I followed the advice of St. Francis de Sales and been praying for God to take my desires away… but it seems the more I pray, the more they come… :-/
It may take more than three days…

Do you have a confessor/spiritual father?
 
It may take more than three days…
Haha. Indeed!

Just persevere, and keep persevering. Bad habits aren’t broken in a matter of three days.

By the way, it’s not only about praying that God takes your illicit desires away, it’s also about actively adverting yourself from them. Pray as if it all depended on God, act as if it all depended on you. The heresy of quietism is that it’s all God, and man doesn’t have to do anything at all. The heresy of Pelagianism is that it’s all man, and God doesn’t have to do anything at all. In reality it’s a 100%/100% game-- God gives Himself wholly to you [on the cross! in the Eucharist! by His grace!], and you must give yourself wholly to Him. (Of course, becoming a saint is the process of learning to give yourself completely to Him-- so it’s our job to give ourselves to Him more and more.)

So when you get into situations, make an active effort of your will to turn away from them and ignore them.

And give it time. Rome wasn’t built in a day. 😉 God is going to form you into a far more glorious creation.

The desire to be holy is half the battle, don’t fret or be anxious-- just persevere. God bless.
All of us, gazing with unveiled face on the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, as from the Lord who is the Spirit (2 Cor 3:8).
-Rob
 
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