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I am going to warn you again. Understand that my warnings are not for my sake, but just to let you know that in my understandings you are very wrong on a very important thing, the basic principle of love. Love acts the way it is, not the way we think it is, meaning that Truth is truth no matter if no one follows it or believes it. My understandings or yours will not decide what is love, God is love, so analyze how we as humans (limited beings), can get to act love. Don’t you think we need to do impossible things, well impossible things to humans?
What is from God will show God, there is no doubt on that.
The body and the spirit are in the world and make up the person, but which is the one that needs to come from above?
The body was made from earth the spirit was a breath of God. Why do God makes a different from His ways and the worlds, didn’t He created everything?
Obligations from love come inherently if you understand Gods love, and if you in fact feel Gods love. But this doesn’t mean to give sexual pleasing (never degrade love that way), or say that love (in marriage) is for sexual pleasing. Intercourse creates a life, this is why we go to intercourse, not for sexual pleasing.
For you to have intercourse first you need someone there, and not just someone (but a man needs a woman and a woman a man, not for their pleasing but for their loving).
So the pleasure you receive from someone cannot be more important than that someone that you receive it from. So your acts should reflect that the someone is over any of the pleasures it can give. Love acts the way love is (Love is God, God is love), the same way you care for your family and act caringly, because of the simple fact that you care.
That’s why pleasures in the sexual scope for example, will never be “rights”, because pleasures doesn’t determine what is good. If you love too much (as if that’s possible for a human alone (without God), well God loves this way), you will see that you will never hurt someone you love in any way, in fact the more you love the more you will sacrifice even your life, that’s how far love goes for someone. If you let your pleasures “fly” ( and you will let pleasure fly when you don’t have chastity, self mastery, and temperance, this is a truth, not my deduction), you will see you will end up hurting someone (this is a fact). You see that people will rape and even go to animals to please their pleasure, because it doesn’t matter where it comes from as long as you feel the pleasure. That is how far pleasure will go.
Marriage will not stop “abuse” just because of the “union” to just one other person (your partner), but marriage is a “way” and comes from a “way” (Gods way, a way of acting in your everyday life). For you to fulfill marriage as a sacrament, you as a person should already be someone that follows God and do His ways. Love is the most important one in the theological virtues because it looks for the others welfare, because that’s its principle. And this looking for others will give hope and will give faith, this acts (meaning love acting), will show God, that’s why it will give hope and faith.
Remember when talking about debt, the parable:
“That is why the kingdom of heaven may be likened to a king who decided to settle accounts with his servants. When he began the accounting, a debtor was brought before him who owed him a huge amount. Since he had no way of paying it back, his master ordered him to be sold, along with his wife, his children, and all his property, in payment of the debt. At that, the servant fell down, did him homage, and said, ‘Be patient with me, and I will pay you back in full.’ Moved with compassion the master of that servant let him go and forgave him the loan. When that servant had left, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a much smaller amount. He seized him and started to choke him, demanding, ‘Pay back what you owe.’ Falling to his knees, his fellow servant begged him, ‘Be patient with me, and I will pay you back.’ But he refused. Instead, he had him put in prison until he paid back the debt. Now when his fellow servants saw what had happened, they were deeply disturbed, and went to their master and reported the whole affair. His master summoned him and said to him, ‘You wicked servant! I forgave you your entire debt because you begged me to. Should you not have had pity on your fellow servant, as I had pity on you?’ Then in anger his master handed him over to the torturers until he should pay back the whole debt. So will my heavenly Father do to you, unless each of you forgives his brother from his heart." “ Matthew 18, 23-35
You want someone that you supposedly love to give bodily debts (sexual pleasing), when the point is to forgive debts because we have much more that needs forgiving.
What is from God will show God, there is no doubt on that.
The body and the spirit are in the world and make up the person, but which is the one that needs to come from above?
The body was made from earth the spirit was a breath of God. Why do God makes a different from His ways and the worlds, didn’t He created everything?
Obligations from love come inherently if you understand Gods love, and if you in fact feel Gods love. But this doesn’t mean to give sexual pleasing (never degrade love that way), or say that love (in marriage) is for sexual pleasing. Intercourse creates a life, this is why we go to intercourse, not for sexual pleasing.
For you to have intercourse first you need someone there, and not just someone (but a man needs a woman and a woman a man, not for their pleasing but for their loving).
So the pleasure you receive from someone cannot be more important than that someone that you receive it from. So your acts should reflect that the someone is over any of the pleasures it can give. Love acts the way love is (Love is God, God is love), the same way you care for your family and act caringly, because of the simple fact that you care.
That’s why pleasures in the sexual scope for example, will never be “rights”, because pleasures doesn’t determine what is good. If you love too much (as if that’s possible for a human alone (without God), well God loves this way), you will see that you will never hurt someone you love in any way, in fact the more you love the more you will sacrifice even your life, that’s how far love goes for someone. If you let your pleasures “fly” ( and you will let pleasure fly when you don’t have chastity, self mastery, and temperance, this is a truth, not my deduction), you will see you will end up hurting someone (this is a fact). You see that people will rape and even go to animals to please their pleasure, because it doesn’t matter where it comes from as long as you feel the pleasure. That is how far pleasure will go.
Marriage will not stop “abuse” just because of the “union” to just one other person (your partner), but marriage is a “way” and comes from a “way” (Gods way, a way of acting in your everyday life). For you to fulfill marriage as a sacrament, you as a person should already be someone that follows God and do His ways. Love is the most important one in the theological virtues because it looks for the others welfare, because that’s its principle. And this looking for others will give hope and will give faith, this acts (meaning love acting), will show God, that’s why it will give hope and faith.
Remember when talking about debt, the parable:
“That is why the kingdom of heaven may be likened to a king who decided to settle accounts with his servants. When he began the accounting, a debtor was brought before him who owed him a huge amount. Since he had no way of paying it back, his master ordered him to be sold, along with his wife, his children, and all his property, in payment of the debt. At that, the servant fell down, did him homage, and said, ‘Be patient with me, and I will pay you back in full.’ Moved with compassion the master of that servant let him go and forgave him the loan. When that servant had left, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a much smaller amount. He seized him and started to choke him, demanding, ‘Pay back what you owe.’ Falling to his knees, his fellow servant begged him, ‘Be patient with me, and I will pay you back.’ But he refused. Instead, he had him put in prison until he paid back the debt. Now when his fellow servants saw what had happened, they were deeply disturbed, and went to their master and reported the whole affair. His master summoned him and said to him, ‘You wicked servant! I forgave you your entire debt because you begged me to. Should you not have had pity on your fellow servant, as I had pity on you?’ Then in anger his master handed him over to the torturers until he should pay back the whole debt. So will my heavenly Father do to you, unless each of you forgives his brother from his heart." “ Matthew 18, 23-35
You want someone that you supposedly love to give bodily debts (sexual pleasing), when the point is to forgive debts because we have much more that needs forgiving.