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HI, I am 50 and have been married 2 times,both annulled. I am engaged now. A little background info: I was a sex addict from age 8 to 48+ but didn’t realize it because I was married for 25 yrs. then 4+ yrs ago got divorced and found out. I prayed and worked hard on me and stopped this addiction completely. Now,I am engaged to a wonderful man. I am very attracted to him. I catch myself drifting off thinking about what sex will be like with him. I have a terribly difficult time fighting my sexual thoughts and physical responses to them.
I was told it is normal…but to fight this as best I can. Well, I need more of an answer. How serious of a sin is this? Where is the line drawn? How do I fight this? I pray to fight this,personal talking with God, the rosary,Divine Mercy chaplet,confession,etc.
But sometimes it overpowers me. I feel alot of shame.
I even broke off from him 2 times because of this. I want God first in my life. I really Love God and I really hate these sinful thoughts. We have agreed not to talk sex and of course not to have sex.But in me I struggle.How serious of a sin is this?veinal or mortal? So much shame comes with this too.what more can I do?
Can you help me?
 
HI, I am 50 and have been married 2 times,both annulled. I am engaged now. A little background info: I was a sex addict from age 8 to 48+ but didn’t realize it because I was married for 25 yrs. then 4+ yrs ago got divorced and found out. I prayed and worked hard on me and stopped this addiction completely. Now,I am engaged to a wonderful man. I am very attracted to him. I catch myself drifting off thinking about what sex will be like with him. I have a terribly difficult time fighting my sexual thoughts and physical responses to them.
I was told it is normal…but to fight this as best I can. Well, I need more of an answer. How serious of a sin is this? Where is the line drawn? How do I fight this? I pray to fight this,personal talking with God, the rosary,Divine Mercy chaplet,confession,etc.
But sometimes it overpowers me. I feel alot of shame.
I even broke off from him 2 times because of this. I want God first in my life. I really Love God and I really hate these sinful thoughts. We have agreed not to talk sex and of course not to have sex.But in me I struggle.How serious of a sin is this?veinal or mortal? So much shame comes with this too.what more can I do?
Can you help me?
Yours is a very difficult situation.
I think that sexual thoughts about your betrothed are a normal and natural thing. Your problem, of course, is that you are trying to fix/resist a known fault and so are concerned about ANY temptation.

I may not be around much today to answer but may I ask:
  1. Is your fella aware of your past and your addiction?
  2. In relation to your past addiction during marriage, was adultery involved, or was it kept mostly within the bounds of the marriage bed?
You don’t have to answer this If you feel it is too personal, but it might help us understand and advise.

I have a very strong feeling that you and your betrothed must work on this together. As this is part and parcel to who he is marrying he must be a part of your fight and solution.

May God Bless

James
 
My boyfriend was a sex addict once also.
I did commit adultry on our 8-10 year of marriage,but at that time I was a drug user and we were seperated and I was a witch and very wealthy and much like Father Corapi’s past in many ways.
My fiance was a drug addict too,but clean 7 yrs. Me clean almost 13. He was arrest and (name removed by moderator)risoned for sexual abuse for 9 yrs. That horrible experience was his rock bottom and he tried to kill himself in prison when first arrested. he is out now. I have known him 8 yrs. And we always were only friends up to a a year ago. We keep it clean between us. We both know though that we both struggle in this area of sex thoughts with eachother,so we do not dress or act to provoke anything. We both want God priority.
If we were married,we would be ok. We are not like our old selves when addicted to sex…that was very extreme and gross. We just and only are attracted to eachother. We pray and work hard on this issue. And I really do not want to end this relationship because we are very good for eachother in so many ways…even spiritually we have helped eachother so much. However, we are both you could say,oversexed!?! But do not show it.I want to overcome this. I really hate it. And if all works out as we want we will be married in about a year. There is total honesty and loyality between us. I am not on my 20’s or 30;s anymore and can tell alot about a person I am with because I have had the worst of the worst in men for most my life. This man is a Christian. And he is a giver not a taker like me. We have this issue and I know from priests and even monks that it is ‘normal’ and I we fight the thoughts,but I want more immediate control and I do not want to always have to put out so much effort.There are better things to do. I want to marry this man. I know him so deeply and we are good together. And I do not think there has ever been an engaged couple who has not dealt with some sex thoughts. But because of my past addiction…it really gets to me,even though it doesn’t nearly reach that level of impurity. I do not act on those thoughts.
Nevertheless, I am always confessing them and I am sick and tired of this. I want to do better and I always really mean to.I hope this helps explains my situation. There is nothing we do not know about eachother. As I said,we had been just friends for years until last year. Our relationship is mostly a joy and we are understanding and patient with eachother. We work on this sex issue by not talking or writing anything about sex or sex in our future marriage. We dress modestly. We as he says, are like twins. We had such similar pasts and hard life. And then Jesus converted us…different years though.
Oh, when I was married 25 yrs and while not seperated, I was loyal and the sex addiction was only with husband…except when we seperated 2+ yrs.
 
Yours is a great struggle Hambrf. I would suggest prayer and a lot of it. Try the Prayer of St. Michael…

Saint Michael the Archangel,
defend us in battle.
Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
and do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host
by the Divine Power of God —
cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits
who roam throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls.
Amen. I would also suggest, if you are not already doing so, counseling for the sex addiction. God Bless
 
I think about sex with my fiancee regularly, its to be expected. As long as you’re not ‘indulging’ those feelings, either by yourself or with your spouse to be, there’s nothing wrong with it.
 
I am by no means a councillor but I will try to help.
My boyfriend was a sex addict once also.
I did commit adultry on our 8-10 year of marriage,but at that time I was a drug user and we were seperated and I was a witch and very wealthy…
Praise God for your Redemption.
Coming from such an opposing background, you may be expecting just a bit too much too soon from your conversion. Be patient with yourself and with God.
My fiance was a drug addict too,but clean 7 yrs. Me clean almost 13. He was arrest and (name removed by moderator)risoned for sexual abuse for 9 yrs. That horrible experience was his rock bottom and he tried to kill himself in prison when first arrested. he is out now. I have known him 8 yrs. And we always were only friends up to a a year ago. We keep it clean between us. We both know though that we both struggle in this area of sex thoughts with eachother,so we do not dress or act to provoke anything. We both want God priority.
There obviously has been a strong addictive component to both your personalities and you are trying to overcome this. Psychologically, the way to do this is by reprogramming. Spiritually too the idea is to fight it off and substitute good, redemptive thoughts and behaviors for the bad ones.
Do you have a strong spiritual advisor who is trained in this area?
I cannot stress how important this is. Many people, myself included, can be empathetic but are simply not trained…
If we were married,we would be ok. We are not like our old selves when addicted to sex…that was very extreme and gross.
This is beautiful, but I would caution you that marrying this man will not change the battle you are fighting. In fact, in some ways it may make it harder, which I am sure you have both discussed.
We just and only are attracted to eachother. **We pray and work hard on this issue. And I really do not want to end this relationship because we are very good for eachother in so many ways…even spiritually we have helped eachother so much. **However, we are both you could say,oversexed!?! But do not show it.I want to overcome this. I really hate it…
Based strictly on what you say here I think you two have a wonderful relationship. Dangerous - but wonderful. You are a very lucky person to have such an understanding friend.
There is total honesty and loyality between us. I am not on my 20’s or 30;s anymore and can tell alot about a person I am with because I have had the worst of the worst in men for most my life. This man is a Christian. And he is a giver not a taker like me.
One thing I note in here is your statement that he is a giver not a taker, like you. This can be a dangerous thing. It is critical that you remember his addictions and are sensitive to them. One of the things I would be praying for is the Lord to help you be more giving.
We have this issue and I know from priests and even monks that it is ‘normal’ and I we fight the thoughts,but **I want more immediate control and I do not want to always have to put out so much effort.**There are better things to do.
God will continue to work in you, but he must do it in his own time. He understands your addictive issues. That may be why He has not provided an easy path.
Look at it like this. The evil one has held sway for so long that his path worn smooth and all the sensations are familiar. The path to grace has been left unused for so long that it is covered with brambles and stones to trip on. Only by clearing and trodding this path will it become smooth and easier.
Don’t expect the evil to give up though. You must bar the other path with a strong wall of faith and trust in the Lord. Put St Michael atop the wall to guard and protect you. Let the evil wail and bash against that wall. You’ll hear him but he won’t be able to reach you and destroy you.

You are right too that there are better things to do. Keep busy with good works and prayer.
I want to marry this man. I know him so deeply and we are good together. And I do not think there has ever been an engaged couple who has not dealt with some sex thoughts.
You are absolutely right and sex within the bounds of marriage, between two people who love each other and want to give fully and tenderly of and to each other, is a beautiful thing.
But because of my past addiction…it really gets to me,even though it doesn’t nearly reach that level of impurity. I do not act on those thoughts.
Nevertheless, I am always confessing them and I am sick and tired of this. I want to do better and I always really mean to…
First of all it is obvious to me that you are truly contrite and God is forgiving you. Over and Over.
Our relationship is mostly a joy and we are understanding and patient with each other. We work on this sex issue by not talking or writing anything about sex or sex in our future marriage. We dress modestly. We as he says, are like twins. We had such similar pasts and hard life. And then Jesus converted us…different years though.
I think that this is good and correct that you avoid talking about sex in your marriage.
However, in so doing I hope you are not avoiding discussing your addictions and temptations. It sounds like you are not, but I don’t want to misunderstand you.
There is a book Called Healing Prayer that you may find useful in your journey. It speaks a lot to healing both in the physical and the emotional/spiritual sense. It is not a large book and is very readable.
You and your betrothed have a long road ahead of you full of potential for great Joy and many potential pitfalls. Stay honest and true to God each other and I believe God will reward you.
I wish you only the best and hope I’ve been of help in some small way.

May God’s Blessings be upon you

James
 
You’re not responsible for the thoughts that come into your head, but you are responsible for what you choose to do with them.

Do you say a Hail Mary? Do you ask God to get rid of the thoughts quickly? If so, great! If you dwell on them and don’t try to banish them, that’s the problem. —KCT
 
I think most doctors will tell you that you are quite normal. It’s when you over-obsess about these thoughts that things can really get out of control. You need to be in control. Go to confession often and engage in more productive thoughts.
 
Looking over the answers so far, I realized we haven’t really addressed your specific questions in the OP.
… I have a terribly difficult time fighting my sexual thoughts and physical responses to them.
I was told it is normal…but to fight this as best I can.
I suspect that, as well meaning as this person was, they have never had to deal with an addiction. As someone already said, you cannot help what pops into your head. You can only control what you do with it. I will extend that to say that that also applies to the physical responses you refer to. If something pops into your head and your body responds in some way that is simply a recation. It is something “Pavlovian”. What is more important is what you do in the next moment once you are able to gain control.
Well, I need more of an answer. How serious of a sin is this? Where is the line drawn? How do I fight this? I pray to fight this,personal talking with God, the rosary,Divine Mercy chaplet,confession,etc.
But sometimes it overpowers me. I feel alot of shame.
Based on what you have shared so far I cannot see any danger of grave sin here unless you indulge the urge. continue with the prayers, confession, etc. Also remeber my earlier advise to seek out a spiritual advisor trained in dealing with your types of issues.
Someone who won’t blow you off with, “fight it as best you can.” You want someone who will discuss with you and help you find alternatives and solutions. And most importantly will be there with you after your marriage.
I even broke off from him 2 times because of this. I want God first in my life. I really Love God and I really hate these sinful thoughts. We have agreed not to talk sex and of course not to have sex.But in me I struggle.**How serious of a sin is this?veinal or mortal? So much shame comes with this too.what more can I do?**Can you help me?
As I mentioned earlier, I think that of what you describe would be in the venial sin catagory. You are fighting the urges and that is what God wants you to do.

Peace

James
 
HI, I am 50 and have been married 2 times,both annulled. I am engaged now. A little background info: I was a sex addict from age 8 to 48+ but didn’t realize it because I was married for 25 yrs. then 4+ yrs ago got divorced and found out. I prayed and worked hard on me and stopped this addiction completely. Now,I am engaged to a wonderful man. I am very attracted to him. I catch myself drifting off thinking about what sex will be like with him. I have a terribly difficult time fighting my sexual thoughts and physical responses to them.
I was told it is normal…but to fight this as best I can. Well, I need more of an answer. How serious of a sin is this? Where is the line drawn? How do I fight this? I pray to fight this,personal talking with God, the rosary,Divine Mercy chaplet,confession,etc.
But sometimes it overpowers me. I feel alot of shame.
I even broke off from him 2 times because of this. I want God first in my life. I really Love God and I really hate these sinful thoughts. We have agreed not to talk sex and of course not to have sex.But in me I struggle.How serious of a sin is this?veinal or mortal? So much shame comes with this too.what more can I do?
Can you help me?
Sorry, I’m not addressing the issue, but how did you qualify for an annulment after 25 yrs of marriage.
 
I have a suggestion and a question for you.

The suggestion is that you be as open with your priest-confessor as you have been with us. Tell the whole story and get his advice. Because this may take a little longer than the usual confession, you may wish to make an appointment, unless you have short lines and plenty of time in your parish at the regular confession times.

The question is, if you have discerned that you are right for each other, why wait so long to get married?

Betsy
 
Sorry, I’m not addressing the issue, but how did you qualify for an annulment after 25 yrs of marriage.
MH84 -
I just recieved an annullment from a marriage of almost 20 years. So this isn’t necessarily a problem.
The annullment process is designed to examine the state of mind of the individuals at the time of the marriage.
Were they honest
Were they mature enough
Were there coersive factors

People can get married for the wrong reason and they can stay married for the wrong reason.

James
 
Hamgrf,
I hope all is going well with you. 👍

It appears most folks here don’t quite know how to deal with your issues. I’m sorry for that.

If I can be of any other help to you please let me know.

May God Bless You
James
 
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