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Yeah im new here. My name is Jose and I follow the teachings of the ancient catholic churches including the roman church and the eastern church.

So for many nights I have been half asleep and for some reason my bed starts shaking. I plead the blood of jesus and it still happens so maybe its not some demon but instead something else. Also, when it happens I hear people having a conversation and doors closing and they sound like old doors. I keep asking for deliverance but it keeps going so does anybody have any idea who or what these spirits might be? what should I do? I don’t really trust exorcists though.
 
Hello Jose and welcome to CAF,I dont understand your religious status, however ,if you are catholic.you are catholic!

What you have described you should speak to your priest about.You could be imagining things or …you did say you were half asleep, perhaps you were dreaming .In either case you should speak to your priest and also go along to your doctor and have a chat with him about this.

God bless
 
The shaking bed might not be the big problem. I am just worried about the voices. When I hear them I am not half asleep. Sometimes the voices sound sweet and sometimes distorted.
 
I think you should definitely speak to a priest… have you ever had your house blessed or exorcized? When this happens try praying to Mary as well
 
talk to a priest…and get him to come and bless your home…keep repeating the name of jesus when it happens, use holy water, wear a cross, scapula or holy medal blessed by a priest…pray alot…let us know what happens 🙂
 
What are the voices speaking about? You must never engage these things in conversation. But you hear them. What are they conversing about?
I think you should speak to a priest but a very orthodox Catholic one.
 
What are the voices speaking about? You must never engage these things in conversation. But you hear them. What are they conversing about?
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It is rare for them to say something in english or spanish which are the languages I speak. However, when I understand them, what they say depends on what im doing. for example, when I am beginning to pray, sometimes they say “shut up” but I rebuke them and they leave. Sometimes I feel a bubble of protection and a sweet voice says “stay there” and sometimes they tell me to keep praying. I am already aware that for some reason, demons like to come to my room at night and harass me. The demons are not even that scary anymore now they are just getting annoying because after I rebuke them, they come again another night and I want them to just leave and never come back.
 
Joseklos said:
It is rare for them to say something in english or spanish which are the languages I speak. However, when I understand them, what they say depends on what im doing. for example, when I am beginning to pray, sometimes they say “shut up” but I rebuke them and they leave. Sometimes I feel a bubble of protection and a sweet voice says “stay there” and sometimes they tell me to keep praying. I am already aware that for some reason, demons like to come to my room at night and harass me. The demons are not even that scary anymore now they are just getting annoying because after I rebuke them, they come again another night and I want them to just leave and never come back.
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Hola Jose,

You have recieved a lot good advice by your fellow catholics on this thread.

You may want to consider some other obvious points such as, do you suffer from some sort of chemical imbalance?
Do psychological problems run in your immediate family?
These are serious questions and if you are aware of any clinical reasons, you should address them with your primary care physician.

On the other hand; do you dabble in any occult or spiritist activities? Ouija, santeria, horoscopo.?
Do you have books or items in your home that have to do with occult practices?
How about other family members in the house? What are their activities with these things (if any).?
TV programming that you watch…anything that you shouldn’t be watching? How about internet activity?
In hispanic culture there is the misguided use of amulets like: La manita de azabache; el cuerno italiano and El Ekeko. Sometimes given as baptism gifts by misguided family members and accepted by unsuspecting parents.

Please don’t be offended by my questions. The answer may be an emphatic “no”. But realize that a priest would probably ask similar questions.

Definitely talk to a priest and have him come over to bless your home and property. Have a blessed crucifix in your bedroom (and every bedroom of your house). Consider incoporating the use of holy water fonts at every entrance door to your home.

Do: Pray the Rosary everyday.
Go to Confession (more often than just once a year)
Learn the St. Michael Archangel prayer.

Don’t converse with the voices.

Acuerdate que tienes la compania de tu angel guardian; San Miguel Arcangel; Jesus, Maria y Jose - como aliados y protectores tuyos.

In hoc signo vinces.
 
Jose keep on praying of course, and see a priest or a professional if you feel you need to but the key to you experiences is that you are half asleep. The dream state in your brain takes over while you are not exactly asleep causing the feelings that the bed is shaking and the voices and doors.

Are you still fairly young? because that sort of thing generally effects younger people . When I was young I used to feel the bed rising and lower down to the ground again and sometimes cats walking over the bed (there were no cats in the house and there was no evidence that the bed had physically moved). It all seemed real enough and I used to pray too of course. It is a product of your mind and it will pass.

If these things happened while you were wide awake sitting in a chair or going about your chores, well then I would worry! But the key is that you are in bed and half asleep.
 
On the other hand; do you dabble in any occult or spiritist activities? Ouija, santeria, horoscopo.?
Do you have books or items in your home that have to do with occult practices?
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I don’t dabble with the occult. I am well aware that it is not a toy. However, I do use it but I pray more than I use it. I always pray to jesus and god so I don’t get deceived and I never use black magic.

I also do confess my sins to a priest and I attend mass.
 
Practice of the occult is a perversion of religion, whether you are practicing black or white magic. The magician’s purpose is to achieve results by evoking powers that are normally reserved for God.

Praying to Jesus prior to performing a magical act will not keep you from being deceived. Many magical cults seem very Christian. They teach about angels, use Crucifixes, and their priests may even claim apostolic succession. They are not following the way of Christ. They are perverting it in a very severe manner.

I recommend that you stop any occult involvement, renounce your previous activities, get to church and receive the sacraments as often as possible.
 
Mtndwellar,
Well said. That is the position of the Catholic Church and basically all traditional Christen theological foundations.
 
Practice of the occult is a perversion of religion, whether you are practicing black or white magic. The magician’s purpose is to achieve results by evoking powers that are normally reserved for God.
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Praying to Jesus prior to performing a magical act will not keep you from being deceived. Many magical cults seem very Christian. They teach about angels, use Crucifixes, and their priests may even claim apostolic succession. They are not following the way of Christ. They are perverting it in a very severe manner.
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I recommend that you stop any occult involvement, renounce your previous activities, get to church and receive t
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Thank you for your advise. I do believe that there is a mystical side to Christianity however, I do not use the occult too much ever since I went back to being a catholic. I used to be a christian sorcerer and I thought that magick might help me know more about the spirit world but I soon realized that my spells were pretty useless. I will soon make a thread about my experiences with sorcery.

Also, I got rid of the demons :extrahappy: I plead the blood of jesus so I could protect my whole house and I guess a barrier was made and the demons went away. I haven’t heard them since then.
 
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Thank you for your advise. I do believe that there is a mystical side to Christianity however, I do not use the occult too much ever since I went back to being a catholic. I used to be a christian sorcerer and I thought that magick might help me know more about the spirit world but I soon realized that my spells were pretty useless. I will soon make a thread about my experiences with sorcery.

Also, I got rid of the demons :extrahappy: I plead the blood of jesus so I could protect my whole house and I guess a barrier was made and the demons went away. I haven’t heard them since then.
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Catholicism is a rich and also mystical religion. Catholic mystics do not cast spells. A Christian sorcerer is practicing a heresy. Sorcery is plainly denounced in the bible. You can learn about the spirit world by practicing our faith.

I hope that you are correct about being rid of the demons.
 
Joseklos said:
I don’t dabble with the occult. I am well aware that it is not a toy. However, I do use it but I pray more than I use it. I always pray to jesus and god so I don’t get deceived and I never use black magic.

I also do confess my sins to a priest and I attend mass.
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What is it exactly that you are referring to when you say, " I do use it but…

What is it that you use? Jose ! - there are no halfways when it comes to the occult.
 
Dont answer or communicate with them, because they can drive you crazy. Spray holy water. Pray rosary at bed time. Consult with a priest.
 
Please don’t worry about the sorcery I used to do. I stopped casting spells when I went back to being a catholic.
Catholicism is a rich and also mystical religion. Catholic mystics do not cast spells. A Christian sorcerer is practicing a heresy. Sorcery is plainly denounced in the bible. You can learn about the spirit world by practicing our faith.
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Isn’t heresy stuff that leads you away from god so you can make money? I was seeking the mystical side of our beliefs. my guardian angels guided me and they are the ones who helped me realize how useless sorcery was. But what is exactly heresy? can you show me some bible verses that explain it?
 
Joseklos said:
Please don’t worry about the sorcery I used to do. I stopped casting spells when I went back to being a catholic.

Isn’t heresy stuff that leads you away from god so you can make money? I was seeking the mystical side of our beliefs. my guardian angels guided me and they are the ones who helped me realize how useless sorcery was. But what is exactly heresy? can you show me some bible verses that explain it?
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Heresy is any kind of false doctrine. For example, early Church heretics would sometimes say that the God of the Old Testament was evil and the God of the New Testament was good. Obviously, this isn’t true because they are the same God.
 
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