*shaking my head*

[Nekic]

FINALLY! 100 POSTS!
Sorry, i know, a bit off topic, but i couldn’t help myself…

 

[Servus_Pio_XII]

If the priest wished, he could make a NO mass quite similar to a Tridentine mass, but I am not intrested in going to a mass where the epistle and gospel are in latin.

The priest, in TLM, would read the Gospel and Epistle in English before giving the sermon. The fact that they are ceremonially read in Latin is reformist propaganda.

They know better, and should not denounce ceremony which harms no one.:tsktsk:

 

[Nekic]

Servus Pio XII:

The priest, in TLM, would read the Gospel and Epistle in English before giving the sermon. The fact that they are ceremonially read in Latin is reformist propaganda.

They know better, and should not denounce ceremony which harms no one.:tsktsk:

Huh? I thought that eveything was done in latin, including the readings, with the sermon in english…

 

[Psalm45_9]

Nekić:

Huh? I thought that eveything was done in latin, including the readings, with the sermon in english…

I think what Servus meant is what also happens at the church here in Syracuse that celebrates the Indult. The priest reads the Epistle and Gospel in Latin and then when he goes to the pulpit, before he gives the sermon, he reads them again aloud in English.

 

[Sean_O_L]

Neki wrote:

only a few parishes in my native australia celebrate it legitimately. I have to go to Doonside or Lewisham, both more than half an hour away to participate, without paying a visit to the SSPX.

Greetings fellow OZian! I live in Chirnside Park about 32 kilometers from central Melbourne. The FSSP celebrate the Indult Latin Mass at two locations, Kew and Caulfield - which for we penurious pensioners (in these days of high petrol prices) is beyond our means. Therefore we attend the Pauline liturgy at Croydon, one of our adjoining parishes.

We had attended Mass at Lilydale - staffed by Fr. Roger Ryan, who was straight down the line in all respects. Unfortunately, after his tenure expired he was replaced by a liturgical barbarian who I reported to my Archbishop, the Papal Nuncio, and to Cardinal Arinze. The poor man is now about to undergo a heart operation, and I pray for his complete recovery - which covers a lot of meaning!

 

[Dropper]

DavidJoseph:

My bad. With all the references to SSPX, I wasn’t thinking straight.

Yeah, the woman in question said she might not go to Mass period if she can’t get to the indult parish. Well, that’s no excuse for missing Mass. It’s a mortal sin to miss Mass on a Sunday or holy day of obligation if you could easily have gone. She may not easily be able to make it to the Tridentine Mass, but she can sure as heck easily make it to the Novus Ordo Mass.

I know many people for whom attendance at a NO Mass is an occasion of sin. With all the abuses that happen all over the place at your typical NO parish it’s not very hard to see why.

I don’t know what’s worse her missing a Holy Day of Obligation or attending a Mass where she might mortally sin during it. I know that I have been at NO Masses where I have had to abstain from receiving our Lord for no other reason other than that, because of all the abuses that were happening around me, I was not in the right state of mind to receive the Blessed Sacrament.

It’s a sad state of affairs that she cannot even go to her local parish and EXPECT orthodoxy (whether NO or not).

 

[paramedicgirl]

Dropper:

I know many people for whom attendance at a NO Mass is an occasion of sin. With all the abuses that happen all over the place at your typical NO parish it’s not very hard to see why.

I don’t know what’s worse her missing a Holy Day of Obligation or attending a Mass where she might mortally sin during it. I know that I have been at NO Masses where I have had to abstain from receiving our Lord for no other reason other than that, because of all the abuses that were happening around me, I was not in the right state of mind to receive the Blessed Sacrament.

It’s a sad state of affairs that she cannot even go to her local parish and EXPECT orthodoxy (whether NO or not).

Based on this line of thinking, either way there is a mortal sin attached that requires confession. But I see your point. The scantily dressed women and even EMHC who wear shorts are prime occasions of sin at the NO Mass. The constant chatter is so distracting that sometimes I don’t go up for Communion, because I have not been able to focus my attention on Jesus in the Eucharist. If there was a Latin Mass in my parish, or even within driving distance, I would bid the NO Mass goodbye.

 

[Nekic]

paramedicgirl:

Based on this line of thinking, either way there is a mortal sin attached that requires confession. But I see your point. The scantily dressed women and even EMHC who wear shorts are prime occasions of sin at the NO Mass. The constant chatter is so distracting that sometimes I don’t go up for Communion, because I have not been able to focus my attention on Jesus in the Eucharist. If there was a Latin Mass in my parish, or even within driving distance, I would bid the NO Mass goodbye.

May I just ask why it is a sin to wear shorts during mass?
Here in Australia, it gets really, REALLY hot, and it is hard to feel comfortable in anything but shorts. I don’t like wearing shorts, i prefer to wear long pants to mass, but on some occasions, i have no choice. Shorts can be modest, just so long as they aren’t TOO short.
Where is the sin in that?

 

[cmt]

Dropper:

I know many people for whom attendance at a NO Mass is an occasion of sin. With all the abuses that happen all over the place at your typical NO parish it’s not very hard to see why.

I don’t know what’s worse her missing a Holy Day of Obligation or attending a Mass where she might mortally sin during it. I know that I have been at NO Masses where I have had to abstain from receiving our Lord for no other reason other than that, because of all the abuses that were happening around me, I was not in the right state of mind to receive the Blessed Sacrament.

It’s a sad state of affairs that she cannot even go to her local parish and EXPECT orthodoxy (whether NO or not).

Its a sad state of afairs, when one is at Mass, NO or Tridentine, and can’t concentrate on Our Lord. Some people are so hung up in what others are doing, they sin by just being so judgemental. I have known so called orthodoxy Catholics, who spend so much time gossiping about others after a Mass, you can be pretty sure they are not there for God…just for show. It cuts both ways.

 

[netmilsmom]

cmt:

Its a sad state of afairs, when one is at Mass, NO or Tridentine, and can’t concentrate on Our Lord. Some people are so hung up in what others are doing, they sin by just being so judgemental. I have known so called orthodoxy Catholics, who spend so much time gossiping about others after a Mass, you can be pretty sure they are not there for God…just for show. It cuts both ways.

Oh MY!
If you think that Gossip is just a past time of “Orthodoxy Catholics”, you need to get out more!

 

[paramedicgirl]

Nekić:

May I just ask why it is a sin to wear shorts during mass?
Here in Australia, it gets really, REALLY hot, and it is hard to feel comfortable in anything but shorts. I don’t like wearing shorts, i prefer to wear long pants to mass, but on some occasions, i have no choice. Shorts can be modest, just so long as they aren’t TOO short.
Where is the sin in that?

Casual, sloppy shorts are what I have seen worn by some of our EMHC. It’s like they just popped in off the street and gave no thought or preparation to their role for the Mass. And yes, I do think that EMHC should dress appropriately (conservatively) when touching the Sacred Host. There is far too much of a casual air about the NO Mass that detracts from the real reason we are there.

 

[april_hosen]

DavidJoseph:

they’re not going to make themselves more holy with attitudes like that but rather the total opposite if they’re not careful.

That’s intresting.
And all this time I thought making us all holy was Jesus’ job.

 

[cmt]

netmil(name removed by moderator):

Oh MY!
If you think that Gossip is just a past time of “Orthodoxy Catholics”, you need to get out more!

Hardly little one…but orthodox or no it is a very telling habit. I assure you, I have been around the block more than once, so at my age I figure I know a bad attitude when I see it. And bad attituides don’t bode well for any one…Christian or just plain smart alec!

 

[maggieodae]

cmt:

Hardly little one…but orthodox or no it is a very telling habit. I assure you, I have been around the block more than once, so at my age I figure I know a bad attitude when I see it. And bad attituides don’t bode well for any one…Christian or just plain smart alec!

I think I know what your saying.

It is appalling in someone who claims to be orthodox and above the low behavior of others to gossip inccesantly. There are some Traditional wanna be’s that have very bad attitudes, which are hardly of Christ. That is not the norm of course. Most strive to be good and reverent people. It’s the bad apples in the barrel that spoil the batch.

Much the same for NO attendies. A reverent NO is a wonderful sacriment of Gods love and grace. The liberal people who bend it out of shape, are pretty telling also. One should be able to attend either NO or Tridentine without the non sense.

 

[TableServant]

threej_lc:

As I said, we have trouble on both ends, and we need to pray for both. It is sad so many Catholics have no sense of the sacred.

All I’m saying is that if us Catholics spent half the time praying for our brothers that we spend complaining about them, the church would be completely reinvigorated.

I’m not against complaining, I’m just for praying at the same time

Josh

Well said, Josh.