Sharia Law, should we in the states worry about it?

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If the use of Sharia Law is not a growing problem in our courts, then why have a number of states legislatures tried to pass laws that state court cases cannot be decided using laws from outside the US and when these sorts of preemtive laws are being debated and discussed, groups like Cair and the like fight them tooth and nail as Islamophobic.
 
robwar said:
Yes, we are not Sweden but this stuff is cropping up in our court system and the media which is usually asleep at the wheel is not reporting this. Things like polygamy, underaged brides, divorce, force slavery etc and so on are being pushed and to sit back and think we will be ok because of the us constitution is putting your head in the sand. Already in England and many parts of Europe, sharia law is being pushed in our courts. Our freedom of speach is likewise threaten because one cannot say bad things about Islam and it’s prophet. Take a radio commentator like Michael Savage. Because he has said enough criticism about Islam, he is banned from entering England. Is that freedom of speach?
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Again, almost all court cases are public record. Please provide sources. Sounds like a lot of hot air to me.
 
robwar said:
If the use of Sharia Law is not a growing problem in our courts, then why have a number of states legislatures tried to pass laws that state court cases cannot be decided using laws from outside the US and when these sorts of preemtive laws are being debated and discussed, groups like Cair and the like fight them tooth and nail as Islamophobic.
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Source?
 
Ken_Miller said:
Obama campaigns but does not lead
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Ken_Miller said:
Obama is operating a regime not an admin
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Ken_Miller said:
Well what the pope espouses compounds the poverty levels,
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Ken_Miller said:
Again and again the Pope preaches and espouses left wing economics, for which I believe he is wildly off base and misinformed.

I don’t feel he is qualified and should stick with core catholic teaching and principles.
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Ken_Miller said:
With a weak Pres like Obama - yea worry
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I can’t figure out who you dislike the most - the president or the pope. 🤷
 
If you are under the belief that this cannot happen in the US you are sadly mistaken. As post #48 stated, Muslims are having babies, American Catholics, Protestants and Pagans are not. The tactic they are using in other countries is to use the democratic process to take over without the use of violence. The play book states to go into an area and be agreeable while far outnumbered, plant seeds of discord when fairly represented and oppressive action when power is gained. As has been mentioned, the Constitution is only as good as the lawmakers who appoint the judges and they reflect the society as a whole. We have Pres. Obama because more of the nation thought a regime was better than freedom. That doesn’t seem to be going to change anytime soon.
 
One of our 2 Star Generals killed by a bad guy in Afghanistan. The killers, They play dirty. :mad::mad:
 
I have not been on this site for a while and now this subject is brought back up since what is going on in the middle east, it should be brought up again.

Currently the Australian government is taking steps to increase security on our boarders to stop these islam radicals coming in. These cant be actioned fast enough!

One of my good friends of 17 years have gone from lapsed catholic to full on muslim. So much she attended 5 minutes of her grandmothers funeral and walked out for the service, they refused to go to the wake as it serves alcohol. This angered me so much, i said well your not drinking the alcohol, its for your grandmother, and she said i dont care they serve alcohol, allah does not allow this and i wont go… :mad: but i said no more.

Islam is spreading badly, and when i say badly in the wrong way at the moment with isis on the move and noone stopping them, look at moshil, 2000 years christians lived there and they have been forced to move out. It sickens me the world is not doing more about this.
 
All I can say is yes. I do worry this could at some time happen even here in the USA.
 
Jon_S said:
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A simple google search about sharia law in US will give you a number of watch dog groups with case after case of where this is cropping up in the courts. In Michigan which has the largest group of Muslims outside of the middle east and Singapore, there was introduced in the State legislature a law where courts could not use or refer to “outside” or foreign laws. Active groups like CAIR cried out that this was racial. The law didn’t single out Sharia law but would have prevented US court systems from using Sharia law in deciding cases. It comes up much more that you think in a number of cases. It would be the same as Orthodox Jews or even Catholics demanding the courts to consider cannon law or the Talmud to be used in deciding court cases. It is wrong.
 
robwar said:
A simple google search about sharia law in US will give you a number of watch dog groups with case after case of where this is cropping up in the courts. In Michigan which has the largest group of Muslims outside of the middle east and Singapore, there was introduced in the State legislature a law where courts could not use or refer to “outside” or foreign laws. Active groups like CAIR cried out that this was racial. The law didn’t single out Sharia law but would have prevented US court systems from using Sharia law in deciding cases. It comes up much more that you think in a number of cases. It would be the same as Orthodox Jews or even Catholics demanding the courts to consider cannon law or the Talmud to be used in deciding court cases. It is wrong.
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I’m both familiar to the site and them trying to rid our legal system and put up theirs.
 
Yes, I am aware of the European issues. I think there was a rape case in Sweden where the accused (it was a gang rape of a blond haired women in and Muslim neighborhood), that demanded the case to be dismissed based on the fact that Sharia law allows Muslim men to rape non-Muslim women. There have been warnings now issued for non-Muslim women not to walk in these types of neighborhoods. This is a growing problem in western courts that are now under pressure to decide cases based on Sharia law and not Judeo-Christian law which has been a hallmark of western court system.
 
robwar said:
Yes, I am aware of the European issues. I think there was a rape case in Sweden where the accused (it was a gang rape of a blond haired women in and Muslim neighborhood), that demanded the case to be dismissed based on the fact that Sharia law allows Muslim men to rape non-Muslim women. There have been warnings now issued for non-Muslim women not to walk in these types of neighborhoods. This is a growing problem in western courts that are now under pressure to decide cases based on Sharia law and not Judeo-Christian law which has been a hallmark of western court system.
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Do you have any links to this story in Sweden? I find it hard to believe that the government of Sweden would allow it’s court system to not prosecute because Muslim men are somehow ‘allowed’ to rape non-Muslim women. This sounds too much like a conspiracy theory.
 
I was not aware that this is Orthodox Jewish divorce but none of these microcosm societies should demand court systems to decide cases based on their religious laws. Islam isn’t just a belief system but a whole legal political one. What few Jews there are in England is microscopic to the larger Muslim groups in England and the rest of Europe.
 
Thanks for the info, but how are identified as Muslim in comparison to 300,000 out of the generally population. Sounds like what you said is that they are now backpedaling from it. Still aren’t they more of a minority in England that some other groups? Again, and to be consistent, to fair legally to all groups of people, there should be one law which applies to all regardless of their own religious rules?
 
I think we should not be allowing the legal structures whether civil or religious of other Countries to determine or change our legal system in America. It would not only be a disaster, if allowed, but a tragedy.:eek:
 
WilT said:
I think we should not be allowing the legal structures whether civil or religious of other Countries to determine or change our legal system in America. It would not only be a disaster, if allowed, but a tragedy.:eek:
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Strange you haven’t noticed that those ‘legal structures’ already exist, eg the Beth Din of America.

Because I’m not exactly interested in what goes on in the US, I’ve never checked before but it would appear that the US has the same kind of civil law ‘Arbitration Court’ system that we have in the UK (within which the ‘Sharia Courts’ operate).
 
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