Shariah Law in the United States

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Can Shariah Law be allowed for Muslims to practice while keeping it separate and compliant with United States law? Is this possible? Haven’t they done something like this in the United Kingdom? Would it even be a good idea? Personally, I am very skeptical of allowing Shariah Law to be practiced in the United States.
 
I don’t think Shariah law is at all compatible with our constitution or values.
 
Holly3278 said:
Can Shariah Law be allowed for Muslims to practice while keeping it separate and compliant with United States law? Is this possible? Haven’t they done something like this in the United Kingdom? Would it even be a good idea? Personally, I am very skeptical of allowing Shariah Law to be practiced in the United States.
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We do already have some unfortunate laws on the books that allow crazy exemptions for religious reasons, such as ignoring medical help for your child and simply praying for the condition to resolve itself.

See what a pandora’s box was opened there?
 
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Can Shariah Law be allowed for Muslims to practice while keeping it separate and compliant with United States law? Is this possible? Haven’t they done something like this in the United Kingdom? Would it even be a good idea? Personally, I am very skeptical of allowing Shariah Law to be practiced in the United States.
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Absolutely not! If that were allowed, then why not allow every sect dictate their religious belief into laws.
Are we going to bring back prohibition? Are we going to cut off the hands of thieves? What about adulterers-are we going to stone them to death? What about polygamy? And we all know what a dismal failure Prohibition was.
It took over 200 years for our local governments to get rid of the so-called blue laws which were instituted first by the Puritans and later by Christian Fundamentalists.
The greatness of the USA was that each ethnic group not only ultimately learned the common language-English- but within 2 generations adapted themselves into being Americans. Yes, many held on to many traits of the “old country”, but the considered themselves to be Americans.
Allowing Shariah Law to be practiced in the US is contrary to the common good of the country. Muslims can live according to their faith and govern themselves accordingly, but, living in this country demands that they also live according to our constitution and local laws. Orthodox Jews do it , so do Catholics, and every other religious group.
If these people want to live by Shariah Law, they very well should find somewhere else to live…and with due respect for freedom of religion and freedom of speech, Imams who abuse our hospitality by preaching against our system of government should be called to account.
If atheists can demand that the tax exemption of the Catholic Church be revoked because a priest backed a political candidate, why can’t a renegade Imam be called to account.
 
No Foreign Laws are Followed or allowed in the USA. Ignore that False Political Propaganda please.
 
The First Amendment allows freedom of religion, but that freedom does not allow violations of established US Civil Law. Now, today we have a problem with some new US Civil Laws and we must go through the process of getting them overturned, e.g.: Roe v. Wade. Just because it is a civil law doesn’t make it a just and right law. (This is an example of the problems we face in our society and government today… ) Insofar, as Sharia Law does not violate US Law, a Muslim can practice it in public and in private. But,e.g., if a Muslim thinks he has the right to beat his wife, I’m not sure that will hold up in US Courts!
 
StrawberryJam said:
We do already have some unfortunate laws on the books that allow crazy exemptions for religious reasons, such as ignoring medical help for your child and simply praying for the condition to resolve itself.

See what a pandora’s box was opened there?
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That particular law is highly restricted in wording and Court decisions.
 
AntalKalnoky said:
That particular law is highly restricted in wording and Court decisions.
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State by State. With so many people crossing the line and commiting atrocities against children we may see even more tightening up on that.
 
I think some people may have misunderstood me as somehow supporting Shariah Law in the United States. Let me give you my firm assurances that I most definitely do not support any such thing! I was just curious about how possible it is considering that Shariah Law is so essential to conservative Islam.

That said, what I was primarily referring to is whether or not they can practice Shariah Law or would be allowed to do so provided that it did not violate any existing laws in the United states both federal, state, and local.
 
Holly3278 said:
That said, what I was primarily referring to is whether or not they can practice Shariah Law or would be allowed to do so provided that it did not violate any existing laws in the United states both federal, state, and local.
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I’m not sure there’s anything you can’t do in the United States, so long as it does not violate any existing federal, state or local laws.

youtube.com/watch?v=h5CZ_AVyRzg

This was a press conference in Britain a couple months ago. It’s just over an hour, but well worth your time, if you can sit through it. Specifically, I’d pay attention to overriding theme of vigilantism, world domination, and belligerence in the face of an absurdly respectful, almost cowed, secular press pool. And also, around minute 58:00, one of these fine gentlemen speaks openly about how the ultimate goal is the murder of adulterers, apostates, and cutting the hands off thieves.

I’m moving forward on the assumption that this is what Shariah is.
 
Holly3278 said:
Can Shariah Law be allowed for Muslims to practice while keeping it separate and compliant with United States law? Is this possible? Haven’t they done something like this in the United Kingdom? Would it even be a good idea? Personally, I am very skeptical of allowing Shariah Law to be practiced in the United States.
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There is no separate Sharia law in the UK. The UK has a system of arbitration courts (civil law, not criminal law) where, if both parties to a dispute agree to go to arbitration, that court can make the decision. Jewish Beth Din are an example of such an arbitration court and have been operating on that basis in the UK for a long time - the position of the Muslim courts is no different. Decisions cannot be made that breach general UK law.
 
ASimon said:
I’m not sure there’s anything you can’t do in the United States, so long as it does not violate any existing federal, state or local laws.

youtube.com/watch?v=h5CZ_AVyRzg

This was a press conference in Britain a couple months ago. It’s just over an hour, but well worth your time, if you can sit through it. Specifically, I’d pay attention to overriding theme of vigilantism, world domination, and belligerence in the face of an absurdly respectful, almost cowed, secular press pool. And also, around minute 58:00, one of these fine gentlemen speaks openly about how the ultimate goal is the murder of adulterers, apostates, and cutting the hands off thieves.

I’m moving forward on the assumption that this is what Shariah is.
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Religion is making it very easy for everyone to end up dead over it.
 
ASimon said:
I’m not sure there’s anything you can’t do in the United States, so long as it does not violate any existing federal, state or local laws.

youtube.com/watch?v=h5CZ_AVyRzg

This was a press conference in Britain a couple months ago. It’s just over an hour, but well worth your time, if you can sit through it. Specifically, I’d pay attention to overriding theme of vigilantism, world domination, and belligerence in the face of an absurdly respectful, almost cowed, secular press pool. And also, around minute 58:00, one of these fine gentlemen speaks openly about how the ultimate goal is the murder of adulterers, apostates, and cutting the hands off thieves.

I’m moving forward on the assumption that this is what Shariah is.
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Oh okay. Thanks for the video. I also agree that Islam seems to be a rather vengeful religion, at least when it comes to Shariah and the extremist elements.
Kaninchen said:
There is no separate Sharia law in the UK. The UK has a system of arbitration courts (civil law, not criminal law) where, if both parties to a dispute agree to go to arbitration, that court can make the decision. Jewish Beth Din are an example of such an arbitration court and have been operating on that basis in the UK for a long time - the position of the Muslim courts is no different. Decisions cannot be made that breach general UK law.
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Oh okay. Thank you very much for explaining how it works. 🙂
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Religion is making it very easy for everyone to end up dead over it.
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I agree StrawberryJam. It seems that Islam is very vengeful in some aspects. Instead of having mercy on the adulterers like Jesus did, they would rather murder him/her just as the Pharisees wanted to do to the woman caught in adultery. He who is without sin should cast the first stone.
 
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