She never fails to surprise me

[Looking_back]

Some of you will recall me being here discussing telling my mother I’m leaving the Catholic Church to become Lutheran. An update: She was at first a little hurt, but a couple days later asked me to come over and explain why. I did, and she patiently listened. In the following weeks been reading anything and everything on Lutheranism. My daily mass going, cradle Catholic, 66 year old, sent three kids through Catholic School volunteered for everything, mother called me tonight and said: “You know. This is really making a lot of sense to me and I have to admit what I’ve been living hasn’t been working for a long time. I just never had the guts you did.” She now wants to talk to my pastor.

 

[puzzleannie]

we will pray for both of you that the guidance of the Holy Spirit will not fail you.

 

[Lutheranteach]

Wow. And I was shocked when my dad bought a convertible at about that age.

 

[rpp]

Clearly, neither the OP nor his mother were well instructed in the faith.

 

[rpp]

I am not quite certain how a religion invented 1500 years after Christ’s ascension can “make more sense” to someone who actually understands what the Catholic Church actually teaches. My guess is that neither you nor your mother actually have a good understanding of authentic Catholic teaching. This would not be unusual for your generations. I will join PuzzleAnnie in prayers for you and your family.

 

[Whitacre_Girl]

Some of you will recall me being here discussing telling my mother I’m leaving the Catholic Church to become Lutheran. An update: She was at first a little hurt, but a couple days later asked me to come over and explain why. I did, and she patiently listened. In the following weeks been reading anything and everything on Lutheranism. My daily mass going, cradle Catholic, 66 year old, sent three kids through Catholic School volunteered for everything, mother called me tonight and said: “You know. This is really making a lot of sense to me and I have to admit what I’ve been living hasn’t been working for a long time. I just never had the guts you did.” She now wants to talk to my pastor.

Firstly, I am hoping the best for you and your mother in your search for Christ. However, I have to admit that a better place to post something like this is in the “other religions” subforum, rather than here. And also admit that not many people on a CATHOLIC forum are going to react well to posts about converting catholics from Roman Catholicism to Protestantism.

 

[rpp]

Firstly, I am hoping the best for you and your mother in your search for Christ. However, I have to admit that a better place to post something like this is in the “other religions” subforum, rather than here. And also admit that not many people on a CATHOLIC forum are going to react well to posts about converting catholics from Roman Catholicism to Protestantism.

 

[DavidFilmer]

This is really making a lot of sense to me and I have to admit what I’ve been living hasn’t been working for a long time. I just never had the guts you did."

Out of curiosity, just what specific parts of Lutheran theology are “making a lot of sense” to your mother.

Is it Justification by Faith alone? (Sola Fide?). Is it the idea that the Epistle of James should be excluded from Scripture (as Luther called it, an “Epistle of Straw”) because it flatly contradicts Sola Fide?

Is it the Lutheran idea of consubstantation (as opposed to the Catholic doctrine of Transsubstantation?) Luther’s idea is completely devoid of Biblical merit, whereas John 6 clearly establishes the Catholic teaching.

Or is it Sola Scriptura? Luther did not invent this theology, but he was its most vocal and influential advocate. As any novice Catholic apologist knows, Sola Scriptura is self-defeating (the Bible nowhere claims to be the sole rule of faith, so claiming that the Bible must be the sole rule of faith is self-defeating).

The three most distinctive doctrines of Lutheranism (Sola Fide, Sola Scriptura, and consubstantation) have no Biblical basis and make very little sense, and have never made sense to me (that’s why I’m a convert).

Are there some OTHER Lutheran doctrines that make sense to your mother, or does she find these particular doctrines somehow make sense? If it’s the latter, I wonder how she (or you) can justify it.

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

Some of you will recall me being here discussing telling my mother I’m leaving the Catholic Church to become Lutheran. An update: She was at first a little hurt, but a couple days later asked me to come over and explain why. I did, and she patiently listened. In the following weeks been reading anything and everything on Lutheranism. My daily mass going, cradle Catholic, 66 year old, sent three kids through Catholic School volunteered for everything, mother called me tonight and said: “You know. This is really making a lot of sense to me and I have to admit what I’ve been living hasn’t been working for a long time. I just never had the guts you did.” She now wants to talk to my pastor.

Just when we see large segments of another large protestant Community returning to Catholic unity. Generally over the abandonment of foundational beliefs and practices. The Lutheran Community has over the last several years been moving along in the same direction, blown by the winds of change, willing to abandon foundational beliefs and practices to appease some.

 

[Nyarlathotep]

Some of you will recall me being here discussing telling my mother I’m leaving the Catholic Church to become Lutheran. An update: She was at first a little hurt, but a couple days later asked me to come over and explain why. I did, and she patiently listened. In the following weeks been reading anything and everything on Lutheranism. My daily mass going, cradle Catholic, 66 year old, sent three kids through Catholic School volunteered for everything, mother called me tonight and said: “You know. This is really making a lot of sense to me and I have to admit what I’ve been living hasn’t been working for a long time. I just never had the guts you did.” She now wants to talk to my pastor.

Obvious troll is obvious.

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[lutherlic]

Just when we see large segments of another large protestant Community returning to Catholic unity. Generally over the abandonment of foundational beliefs and practices. The Lutheran Community has over the last several years been moving along in the same direction, blown by the winds of change, willing to abandon foundational beliefs and practices to appease some.

Very true. I was a lifelong Lutheran (56 now) from a family of Lutherans. The Lutheran church as I knew it (for me - LCA now the ELCA) has changed greatly in my time. More changes (by a simple vote of delegates to a convention, btw) last summer made me finally realize I could no longer consider myself Lutheran. It was an unexpected and heartbreaking realization.

I am Catholic now, confirmed 39 days ago.

Lutherans are good people with sincere Christian beliefs. Like all Protestants, they suffer from the lack of a truly anchored faith and authority found in the Catholic Church. Truth does not change.

 

[Alexia2000]

Hello ‘Looking back’

This is my second post on this forum. I am so sad that you have chosen to move away from the Catholic faith; seems ironic because I have chosen to move into the Catholic faith

I am not qualified in any way to discuss the pros and cons with you. Atleast, you will still be Christian. I will say this however; the Catholic faith is strict in it requirements; I, am not nor will ever be in a position to follow all of the requirements which will be placed upon me; however, I think (and some or all may disagree with me here), that it will still be better for me to be Catholic than to take any further risks with my soul

I will pray for you that you remain safe in everyway

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

Very true. I was a lifelong Lutheran (56 now) from a family of Lutherans. The Lutheran church as I knew it (for me - LCA now the ELCA) has changed greatly in my time. More changes (by a simple vote of delegates to a convention, btw) last summer made me finally realize I could no longer consider myself Lutheran. It was an unexpected and heartbreaking realization.

I am Catholic now, confirmed 39 days ago.

Lutherans are good people with sincere Christian beliefs. Like all Protestants, they suffer from the lack of a truly anchored faith and authority found in the Catholic Church. Truth does not change.

Welcome to the family.

 

[Philthy]

Some of you will recall me being here discussing telling my mother I’m leaving the Catholic Church to become Lutheran. An update: She was at first a little hurt, but a couple days later asked me to come over and explain why. I did, and she patiently listened. In the following weeks been reading anything and everything on Lutheranism. My daily mass going, cradle Catholic, 66 year old, sent three kids through Catholic School volunteered for everything, mother called me tonight and said: “You know. This is really making a lot of sense to me and I have to admit what I’ve been living hasn’t been working for a long time. I just never had the guts you did.” She now wants to talk to my pastor.

Im sure there is an intended point or something interesting you wish to discuss regarding your dear old Mom, but if so, I dont see it. Were you hoping to offer your mom’s conversion as somehow validating your own or as a cause for us to reconsider Lutheranism? If so, your hopes will remain hopes. The most appealing thing about Lutheranism is its proximity to Catholicism on several doctrines - that, of course, depends on which “Lutheranism” you are talking about. I do wish you both well - it sounds like you do need to do something.

 

[Philthy]

Very true. I was a lifelong Lutheran (56 now) from a family of Lutherans. The Lutheran church as I knew it (for me - LCA now the ELCA) has changed greatly in my time. More changes (by a simple vote of delegates to a convention, btw) last summer made me finally realize I could no longer consider myself Lutheran. It was an unexpected and heartbreaking realization.

I am Catholic now, confirmed 39 days ago.

Lutherans are good people with sincere Christian beliefs. Like all Protestants, they suffer from the lack of a truly anchored faith and authority found in the Catholic Church. Truth does not change.

Pretty much says it all!

 

[Ignatius]

Very true. I was a lifelong Lutheran (56 now) from a family of Lutherans. The Lutheran church as I knew it (for me - LCA now the ELCA) has changed greatly in my time. More changes (by a simple vote of delegates to a convention, btw) last summer made me finally realize I could no longer consider myself Lutheran. It was an unexpected and heartbreaking realization.

I am Catholic now, confirmed 39 days ago.

Lutherans are good people with sincere Christian beliefs. Like all Protestants, they suffer from the lack of a truly anchored faith and authority found in the Catholic Church. Truth does not change.

May I offer you a very warm Welcome Home brother!

 

[Soutane]

Some of you will recall me being here discussing telling my mother I’m leaving the Catholic Church to become Lutheran. An update: She was at first a little hurt, but a couple days later asked me to come over and explain why. I did, and she patiently listened. In the following weeks been reading anything and everything on Lutheranism. My daily mass going, cradle Catholic, 66 year old, sent three kids through Catholic School volunteered for everything, mother called me tonight and said: “You know. This is really making a lot of sense to me and I have to admit what I’ve been living hasn’t been working for a long time. I just never had the guts you did.” She now wants to talk to my pastor.

I’ll pray for and your mother.It is unfortunate that the child seems to be leading the parent into error.This truly saddens me.God Bless you and bring you Home.