Sheed and Hahn errors

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G. Frege:
People on this forum have no problem maligning eminent Catholic scholars and churchmen (e.g., Fr. Richard McBrien, Fr. Raymond Brown, S.S., Fr. Karl Rahner, S.J., et al.), but if one dares speak against Hahn or Sheed, even in a spirit of charity, he or she is excoriated.

The late Fr. Herb McCabe, O.P., was an Oxford theologian and a man who devoted his life to Jesus Christ and His church. Frank Sheed was layman with no formal theological training whose greatest accomplishment was debating winos in Hyde Park. And isn’t it interesting that the son of Frank and Maisie, Wilifred Sheed, grew up to loathe the Catholic faith? Poor Wilifred, he couldn’t learn to love the sterile, reactionary faith of those in Catholic apologetics.
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How do you put eminent and scholar and Catholic in the same thread as the name McBrien?
Raymond Browns “biblical scholarship” has driven people out of the Church. His method of insinuating doubt into people’s minds about the historicity of the Bible is well known.

Mr Sheed and Professor Hahn (and Kreeft, Keating, Ray, Shea, Grodi) bring many Catholics into the Church with their books, McBrien, Brown and Rahner drive Catholics away.
So which do you think people should be reading?
 
Chris Burgwald:
G., I agree that Rahner and Brown often get undeserved bum raps, but I think you do them a disservice by including McBrien in their number. He doesn’t come close to being the authentic Catholic scholar the other two were. How often did you see the NYTimes giving a church-bashing quote from Brown or Rahner? Didn’t happen, at least with the frequency it does with McBrien.

Some of his work is interesting, but by and large, he’s made his name by being “anti-” more than “pro-”.
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Oh, no, Fr. McBrien is very “pro” – he’s pro-choice, pro-ordained women, pro-Kerry, etc.
 
GFrege-

With all due respect since I don’t know you or your heart, I have to say that you do come across as condescending in the tone of your posts. Scott Hahn and Frank Sheed and any other apologist that I’m acquainted with are NOT infallible. Have you thought to write these authors in a spirit of charity to ascertain if they were really putting forth a view that troubles you? Also I wish to say that it is the likes of Scott Hahn “and others” who have greatly aided me on my own path to Rome from Protestantism.

ps. I vote for ending this thread. It’s getting ugly although good points have definately been made. Just my 2 cents though. -God’s blessings to all! -Mfaustina1
 
G. Frege:
People on this forum have no problem maligning eminent Catholic scholars and churchmen (e.g., Fr. Richard McBrien, Fr. Raymond Brown, S.S., Fr. Karl Rahner, S.J., et al.), but if one dares speak against Hahn or Sheed, even in a spirit of charity, he or she is excoriated.

The late Fr. Herb McCabe, O.P., was an Oxford theologian and a man who devoted his life to Jesus Christ and His church. Frank Sheed was layman with no formal theological training whose greatest accomplishment was debating winos in Hyde Park. And isn’t it interesting that the son of Frank and Maisie, Wilifred Sheed, grew up to loathe the Catholic faith? Poor Wilifred, he couldn’t learn to love the sterile, reactionary faith of those in Catholic apologetics.
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You are going to try and tell faithful Catholics that we should be supporting McBrien??? The man who is so liberal it’s hard to even think he’s Catholic???

Pardon me while I throw up.

SV
 
I must be dense because I still don’t see the issue. I have read Scott Hahn and Frank Sheed and find their explanations of the faith to be very accessible and lucid and I see them as individuals who sincerly want to defend the Church and have a great respect for the Magesterium. I have much more respect for them than I do for other so-called Catholic Theologians.
 
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