Shock: 41% of New York City Pregnancies End in Abortion

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TheRealJuliane said:
Here is why:

youtube.com/watch?v=ASrFufnMNDg

Artificial birth control is racist and meant for eugenics of black Americans. So is legalized abortion.
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I would disagree that such a practice is “racist”. It affects, perhaps, African-Americans more than other Amercians, but looking at it through a race-relations lens is rather moot, I’d say. Abortion is equally as offensive to all races, doncha think?
 
Newbie2 said:
I would disagree that such a practice is “racist”. It affects, perhaps, African-Americans more than other Amercians, but looking at it through a race-relations lens is rather moot, I’d say. Abortion is equally as offensive to all races, doncha think?
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Watch the movie. Birth control and abortion were aimed at post-slavery black Americans, by racist white Americans who didn’t want “human weeds” to reproduce.

Yes of course abortion is equally offensive to all races, but it is NOT equally dispensed. Planned Parenthood was founded by a racist eugenicist named Margaret Sanger and they still give out an award IN HER NAME every year. Hillary Clinton received it 2 years ago, proudly.

It is far from moot, black Americans are just now starting to wake up that the people who say they are helping are instead far along the way toward ELIMINATING them.
 
TheRealJuliane said:
Watch the movie. **
**Yes of course abortion is equally offensive to all races, but it is NOT equally dispensed. Planned Parenthood was founded by a racist eugenicist named Margaret Sanger and they still give out an award IN HER NAME every year. Hillary Clinton received it 2 years ago, proudly.

It is far from moot, black Americans are just now starting to wake up that the people who say they are helping are instead far along the way toward ELIMINATING them.
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That may have been the case with some racist agendas, but there are far more factors in abortion and ABC i.e. the so called “sexual revolution”.

Perhaps we can agree that it is correct to say that abortion and ABC have a historically racial component which still exists today.
 
Newbie2 said:
That may have been the case with some racist agendas, but there are far more factors in abortion and ABC i.e. the so called “sexual revolution”.

Perhaps we can agree that it is correct to say that abortion and ABC have a historically racial component which still exists today.
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Yes, ABC unintentionally spread to the white communities. The law of unintended consequences happened with legalized abortion as well. Once something becomes available within society, there is a sort of “viral” effect. The rebellion of the 1960’s teenagers fit well with the racially-motivated movement for birth control. It was not birth control of whites that was the point or why the Pill was invented. Did you know that Jesse Jackson was firmly against birth control until he ran for President? I didn’t, until I watched Maafa 21. He correctly saw that the Pill was a tool to keep black Americans from reproducing. But then he got bought off, and he’s been firmly anti-life ever since. He’s betrayed his own people but he’s not the only black leader who has.

Watch the movie. The research done for this is incredible, flawless, and the result is shocking. Or, don’t, and keep your head in the sand.
 
President Obama said publicly if his daughters “made a mistake” ie - got pregnant, he didn’t want them being with a baby.punished

If colour were the sole issue, I don’t see how he could say that . Along with the affluence, our society has become lukewarm. Still, the percentage of African -Americans aborted by comparison, is indeed unsettling.

It is true , abortion does discriminate, but not against race - it discriminates against the weakest - the innocent, the helpless, while they still have no voice and slays them in what should be the safest place in the world… their mother’s womb. Abortion is a menace to all humanity.

My country aborts approximately 110,000 babies annually.

We need to continue to pray.
 
TheRealJuliane said:
Watch the movie. Birth control and abortion were aimed at post-slavery black Americans, by racist white Americans who didn’t want “human weeds” to reproduce.

Yes of course abortion is equally offensive to all races, but it is NOT equally dispensed. Planned Parenthood was founded by a racist eugenicist named Margaret Sanger and they still give out an award IN HER NAME every year. Hillary Clinton received it 2 years ago, proudly.

It is far from moot, black Americans are just now starting to wake up that the people who say they are helping are instead far along the way toward ELIMINATING them.
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Yes, perhaps Unplanned Parenthood started out as some sort of clandestine holocaust of black people, but you couldn’t argue that now. Its simply economic and educational while more Africian Americans (or whatever PC term is in use now) are having abortions. The stats show they’re more likely to be lesser educated, more likely to be living in poverty, and when you look at NYC, it can’t be easy to be living below the bread line and poorly educated in that city and pregnant.

PP is simply responding to market demands.

I really think America should start collecting better statsistics on women who get abortions, things like level of education, salary, employment, area, how many other children, marital status, I know they take a few of those, but a full one survey would provide more information which could be better used to assess who is in more need of pro-life intervention, and who is in more need of abstience and general self esteem boasting.
 
TheRealJuliane said:
Here is why:

youtube.com/watch?v=ASrFufnMNDg

Artificial birth control is racist and meant for eugenics of black Americans. So is legalized abortion.
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Then who controls the dispensation of ABC? Is the doctor racist? If the doctor is African American, can he just dispense ABC to Asian women if he has a gripe with Asians? Or what about the pharmacist? Even though the ABC is scripted out to an African American woman, if the pharmacist has an African American wife and three bi-racial children, and he sees no color among peoples, should he refuse to dispense it? Where do their ethics end and the patients’ rights begin?

Please detail how YOU believe artificial birth control is “weeding out undesirables” in the U.S. in 2011. Please also indicate just who the “undesirables” are. It’s a deflection to refer anyone to the 13-episode Sanger bash - just, in your own words, explain how ABC is “meant for eugenics of black Americans”, and do you think black Americans might be the only race suffering from such treatment?

As for abortion: if it is meant for eugenics of black Americans, how is it that so many Caucasians, Hispanics, Asians, etc. are able to procure abortions? Would not the eugenics proponents be promoting the procedure SOLELY to black women? Is someone not minding the eugenics store? How are all these other races getting through the doors?

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vera_dicere said:
Yes, perhaps Unplanned Parenthood started out as some sort of clandestine holocaust of black people, but you couldn’t argue that now. Its simply economic and educational while more Africian Americans (or whatever PC term is in use now) are having abortions. The stats show they’re more likely to be lesser educated, more likely to be living in poverty, and when you look at NYC, it can’t be easy to be living below the bread line and poorly educated in that city and pregnant.

PP is simply responding to market demands.

I really think America should start collecting better statsistics on women who get abortions, things like level of education, salary, employment, area, how many other children, marital status, I know they take a few of those, but a full one survey would provide more information which could be better used to assess who is in more need of pro-life intervention, and who is in more need of abstience and general self esteem boasting.
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Wrong. Why does Klan Barrenhood locate their clinics within BLACK-dominant neighborhoods? Demand? No. It is still race-based. Still. Always was, always will be. They give out the MARGARET SANGER Award EVERY YEAR. They are PROUD of their racist beginning. What has changed?
 
genevievelives said:
Then who controls the dispensation of ABC? Is the doctor racist? If the doctor is African American, can he just dispense ABC to Asian women if he has a gripe with Asians? Or what about the pharmacist? Even though the ABC is scripted out to an African American woman, if the pharmacist has an African American wife and three bi-racial children, and he sees no color among peoples, should he refuse to dispense it? Where do their ethics end and the patients’ rights begin?

Please detail how YOU believe artificial birth control is “weeding out undesirables” in the U.S. in 2011. Please also indicate just who the “undesirables” are. It’s a deflection to refer anyone to the 13-episode Sanger bash - just, in your own words, explain how ABC is “meant for eugenics of black Americans”, and do you think black Americans might be the only race suffering from such treatment?

As for abortion: if it is meant for eugenics of black Americans, how is it that so many Caucasians, Hispanics, Asians, etc. are able to procure abortions? Would not the eugenics proponents be promoting the procedure SOLELY to black women? Is someone not minding the eugenics store? How are all these other races getting through the doors?

gen
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13 episode Sanger bash??? Oh My Dear Lord. Is THAT how you see Maafa 21?? As “bashing” Margaret Sanger? That woman was despicable, evil! And you think the film was bashing her? My Lord. I will pray for you. You are so lost.
 
vera_dicere said:
Yes, perhaps Unplanned Parenthood started out as some sort of clandestine holocaust of black people, but you couldn’t argue that now. Its simply economic and educational while more Africian Americans (or whatever PC term is in use now) are having abortions. The stats show they’re more likely to be lesser educated, more likely to be living in poverty, and when you look at NYC, it can’t be easy to be living below the bread line and poorly educated in that city and pregnant.

PP is simply responding to market demands.

I really think America should start collecting better statsistics on women who get abortions, things like level of education, salary, employment, area, how many other children, marital status, I know they take a few of those, but a full one survey would provide more information which could be better used to assess who is in more need of pro-life intervention, and who is in more need of abstience and general self esteem boasting.
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The abortion laws in NY state are among the most lenient in the entire US.

If you open up a phone directory, most clinics offer “abortion services” up until 24 weeks.

If you pick up “El Diario” a spanish language newspaper, there are ads for abortion “clinics”, in Spanish. I’m not sure of any other NY paper that accepts those ads. I looked through once, the clinics also offer “hymen restoration sugery”

So not only can the make a woman unpregnant…they can turn back time and she can be a virgin again.
 
TheRealJuliane said:
Wrong. Why does Klan Barrenhood locate their clinics within BLACK-dominant neighborhoods? Demand? No. It is still race-based. Still. Always was, always will be. They give out the MARGARET SANGER Award EVERY YEAR. They are PROUD of their racist beginning. What has changed?
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Could it be that real estate is cheaper in “BLACK-dominant neighborhoods”?

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TheRealJuliane said:
13 episode Sanger bash??? Oh My Dear Lord. Is THAT how you see Maafa 21?? As “bashing” Margaret Sanger? That woman was despicable, evil! And you think the film was bashing her? My Lord. I will pray for you. You are so lost.
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I personally don’t “see Maafa 21” as anything. Your invitation to view 13 episodes of anything was so abrasive that all interest in pursuing the information was squashed.

“Watch the movie. The research done for this is incredible, flawless, and the result is shocking. Or, don’t, and keep your head in the sand.”
  1. Nothing is flawless.
  2. If research done for the piece is INcredible, then why watch?
  3. It’s impolite in invite someone to partake of anything and then add a stinger on the end which whips around as an insult.
Now, then, let’s return to my inquiry from yesterday: ** “In your own words, explain how ABC is 'meant for eugenics of black Americans, and do you think black Americans might be the only race suffering from such treatment?”** I would like to know what your own mind tells you, not what a YouTube video is feeding you.

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I first heard the “abortion is black genocide” argument from Jesse Jackson, back in the 80’s, before he tried to run for president as a Democrat and found out that that job requires a pro-abortion stance. The logic of the argument, however, is no different from the "institutional racism’ charges that get levelled at insurance companies, sub-prime lenders and other corporate targets. If you accept institutional racsism for those industries, you have to accept it here as well. The geographic argument is similar, you can point to market forces and say that’s where the clients are, so that’s why PP is there, but that is, again, the same thing as saying Walmart “targets” low-rent neighborhoods. Whether you focus on “targeting” or “demand” it is two sides of the same coin. Certainly PP does seem to locate in minority neighborhoods. In my own town, they moved recently from their former central location to (surprise!) a predominately mexican-american neighborhood, which is in my parish. This PP phenomenon historically tracks with similar racist urges hidden behind other liberal favorites, such as gun control. Early gun control laws were presented to the public specifically as targeting blacks. When these Jim Crow laws were over-turned and thrown out, the same laws returned, now sold under the guise of public safety. The outcomes remained the same, and since the same people were pushing these measures, is it unfair to conclude that the motives remained? I think P.J. O’Rourke said it best when he called population control “Way too much of you, just enough of me”.
 
TheRealJuliane said:
Wrong. Why does Klan Barrenhood locate their clinics within BLACK-dominant neighborhoods? Demand? No. It is still race-based. Still. Always was, always will be. They give out the MARGARET SANGER Award EVERY YEAR. They are PROUD of their racist beginning. What has changed?
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Circular logic and straw men.

Black women are usually poorer and less educated, they have been so years long before RvW, it makes economic sense for PP to locate more abortion clinics in areas with a higher populace of black people. Same way you find more prissy private schools in rich, white, well educated neighbourhoods.

As for the “Maggie” award, people are ignorant. People like to forget a person’s past, a lot of people I’ve met who are big supporters of PP and admire Sanger have no frickin’ idea that was pen pals with Hitler.

Also, you seem to be forgetting, or ignoring, that PP isn’t hunting these black women down and kidnapping them to suction their uteruses, for whatever reason, those women walk into those clinics of their own free will. Just like every other woman walking in - sure, they could have external pressure from parents, teachers, friends, family, teh father of the child, but PP doesn’t walk around sling shotting RU486 down their gobs.

Sanger also promoted forced sterilization for “human weeds”, black women walk in to have their babies killed, no one ties their tubes while they’re in there without their consent.

Perhaps your ramblings would have more weight if there was actually a black concentration and sterilisation centre in every neighbourhood where people wearing pointy white hats and bed sheets rounded them up like cattle.
 
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