Shooting stray dogs

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The authorities in my local country shoot stray dogs.
I’m curious about the everyone on CAF’s POV on this.
 
If they’re healthy they could donate the meat to a food bank.👍
 
CDNowak said:
If they’re healthy they could donate the meat to a food bank.👍
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I’m not sure what they do with the dead body after that. I believe they dispose or bury it.
Most of us don’t eat dogs here. :eek:
But why shoot dogs? I find it a bit cruel.
 
I would suggest instead shooting the people who turn them loose in the streets.

Miz
 
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:eek::eek: a joke? or a sarcastic statement? >.<"
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I like dogs.

I don’t like people who abuse or mistreat them.

Take my statement any way you like, but God help the person that I ever catch dumping a living creature out onto the street like garbage.

Miz
 
Eric_Peter said:
I’m not sure what they do with the dead body after that. I believe they dispose or bury it.
Most of us don’t eat dogs here. :eek:
But why shoot dogs? I find it a bit cruel.
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I’m fairly certain they’d cremate them (cheapest option for biological wastes).

Wild dogs can be a public menace, from carrying disease to attacking humans and livestock.

Getting over western prejudices, eating the meat allows productive value (and I am half joking on this point).👍
 
In Western countries, animals which are commonly used as pets are given a high status. Less than human, to be sure, but close. We are willing to devote a large amount of money to their lives and consider pets to be “part of the family.” By extension, a stray dog or cat is someone’s family member which is lost.

I think in countries which are less affluent, pets have a less exalted status. And the Malaysian solution is not uncommon
 
It depends. If the dogs are just living peacefully, then they shouldn’t be shot. But if they are attacking people, biting them, spreading diseases, etc. they are a menace. And if there is an overpopulation of stray dogs, shooting them is more merciful than letting them slowly starve to death or attacked by other dogs until they bleed to death.
 
Eric, do I read correctly that you are in another country/time zone/hemisphere? :confused:

In some areas of the US, stray animals are becoming a nuisance… like in areas where families are forced to leave because of widespread unemployment, and families are forced to flee their homes… and if they can’t afford a house, they sure don’t have money for pet care. Consequently, strays are becoming feral animals in some urban and run-down suburban areas…

The Detroit metropolitan area, particularly, has an abundance of cats turned wild, and have returned to their ancestral feral ways. In those blighted neighborhoods, shooting those strays for target practice has become an “urban” or “ghetto” sport of sorts.

Those blighted neighborhoods, urban decay, our national moral decay, and our financial decay are all a part of the greediness and lack of personal responsibility inherent within (and without) of our government.

Sodom and Gomorrah met their demise, and we’re riding down the same set of tracks…

Back to the topic:
Killing animals simply for the sake of killing them (unless the animals are a nuisance or disease-prone, like rats) is just cruel.
 
A pack of wild dogs can be a real threat to children or even an adult. Shooting them from a distance seems like a way to remove the threat safely. You’d have to ask someone who works at a shelter if pack dogs like that can be rehabilitated into pets or working animals. Some dogs that come in to our local shelter are not safe, even with money and labor and time, which I expect not all governments have. From what I understand, they do put some dogs down, even though we have an animal shelter. And I bet my country has fewer stray animals than other countries, on account of the wealth here…many of the pets here are neutered. I imagine that is not the case in some countries.

As long as they shoot to kill for safety, and not to wing them for fun or something. 😦
 
Usually, where they shoot stray dogs they run in packs and are known to attack people. So, I see in that case no problem with shooting them. But, if the dogs are not running in packs, then every effort should be made to capture them and handle them on a per case basis. It could be that the city can not affoard to house those stray dogs, if that is the case and you don’t like it, then raise funds for an animal shelter.
 
It is not the place of government to pick up all stray animals and put them in utopian paradise for the remainder of their days.

Feral dogs are a menace, always. Not shooting them does a disservice to your fellow man.

They are dependent on man for support and suffer in the wild, it is a disservice to the animal to prolong its suffering.
 
Dale_M said:
In Western countries, animals which are commonly used as pets are given a high status. Less than human, to be sure, but close. We are willing to devote a large amount of money to their lives and consider pets to be “part of the family.” By extension, a stray dog or cat is someone’s family member which is lost.

I think in countries which are less affluent, pets have a less exalted status. And the Malaysian solution is not uncommon
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Sadly, you are correct about how people view animals in the U.S.

“The Malaysian solution” is really the everywhere solution. Even PETA puts down 97% of the animals they pick up.
 
Eric_Peter said:
The authorities in my local country shoot stray dogs.
I’m curious about the everyone on CAF’s POV on this.
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If the stray appears to be aggressive, I will defend myself.

I thought that animal control was called in for stray animals, not local police.
 
Eric_Peter said:
The authorities in my local country shoot stray dogs.
I’m curious about the everyone on CAF’s POV on this.
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The law where I live states that animals at large can be shot on sight. If an animal that does not belong to you wanders on your property and is a threat to your property, you can shoot it. You can also collect damages from the owner of the dead dog(s) if they damage anything before you knock them off.

We do not have animal control here. It just does not service our area. When we first had trouble with a neighbor’s dogs, we called the sheriff, who told us that they could put a bench warrant out for the owners and fine them, but that it usually causes more trouble than it’s worth, and they recommended that we just shoot the dogs.

I have a lot of neighbors with dogs (and I have a lot of dogs) and I usually have no problem and that’s the way I like it of course. Canine visitors are usually welcome, as long as they don’t trouble my own dogs, my visiting nephews or the livestock. If a stray dog shows the least bit of aggression towards me, my own dogs, my nephews or livestock, I shoot it.

I have had one set of neighbors’ dogs repeatedly run in packs of anywhere from 3-6 dogs, all the way across my front field and into my yard where they tear apart my chickens and guineas and were a threat to my goats and cows. After asking, begging, pleading, and later demanding that they control their dogs for almost a year, I finally told them I would just shoot any dogs that set foot on my property (which is my right where I live) and I guaranteed them that I wouldn’t wait around for them to kill anything anymore - they’d be shot on sight. They watched my brother teach me how to use the .22 in our front field…(our homes are about 1500 feet apart, with a nice big field between us) and miraculously learned to control their dogs better. But they still run loose, she’s just more diligent about stopping them from coming here.

I had to get a livestock guardian for my goats and calves, which is an expense I didn’t need. But since then, they’ve decided to stop breeding these dogs with a high prey drive (the dogs killed several of their own livestock), and decided to only keep a few that they were fond of. The few they kept cannot be trusted and I won’t tolerate them on my property.

Before that, we had many canine guests, and none of them ever bothered our livestock. One was a frequent visitor (a huge bloodhound) who used to nap sprawled out in front of the henhouse, and he used to play with my dogs.

Anyway, I have four dogs (not including the LGD) and fully expect them to remain on my property. Accidents happen and I know that. But having someone’s dogs rip apart your animals every day because they don’t believe in containing their animals is just not acceptable. Having multiple dogs leads to a pack mentality - that’s normal. And you have to train your dogs well and have control over them otherwise they are a threat to children and livestock, and I love dogs, but I won’t have it.
 
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Yeah I’m from Malaysia, a Malaysian. I am from “different time zone” as someone mentioned lol.
Don’t know much about United States, only know from Hollywood movies,

Redratfish,
I thought the word “authority” can also mean “administrative unit of a government”, right? From the media, I know the way the government rules are very different from the United States.

Long story short, the town or city council who is administrating the certain area have the right to shoot any stray dogs that has been reported to them. They have the right to shoot the dog too if they don’t see the dog license on the dog’s neck.
I could ask this in my local forum, but I want to know the respond from a Catholic community. Because I know the “secular” community in my country would be very much against it, very much to the extend they’ll feel angry, upset, and what not in their posts. (don’t know if they really feel it or they’re just ‘talking louder’, I don’t know for sure)
 
The way that I understand it is this: Man was created in the image of God and given dominion over all other living creatures. So, man comes first! However, animals are still “fueled” by God and so deserve respect, only NOT at the expense of man. If they are a nuisance and can cause harm to mankind, then I’m thinking they can be shot. If one stray dog shows up in an area and isn’t hurting anyone or anything, then I can’t see the point of just shooting it.
 
I have a question about killing stray dogs that attack our sheep and goats.
After seeing some of our sheep being ripped apart by dogs running around in packs. We decided to defend our sheep and goats for ever experiencing this again. Since in my country you have to have a large amount of sheep and goats to get a gun/rifle permit. We decided to poison the wild dogs. Many owners in my country do that if they don’t have a gun/rifle license.
Is it morally wrong or a sin to kill these dogs in this way?

A month or so ago a pack of dogs attacked our sheep but didn’t kill any, since I chased them away and threw rocks at them. I was so mad, I’m still angry that this attack happened. Two neighbours of mine did have fatal attacks on their sheep. I think it’s the same pack of dogs. (some of these dogs are stray dogs but some have owners but let them run around)
I live in the Caribbean.

I would appreciate your reply. I asked this question on the thread of moral theology, but didn’t get a reply, I would like to know what the stand is of the Roman Catholic Church about my case.

Thanks in advance!
 
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