Shortest Mass Ever?

[ProVobis]

It appears to me that one cannot rush a mass in the vernacular as much as one in Latin. One cannot recite prayers in the vernacular without getting some sense of their meaning; however one can rattle off Latin purely by rote. As I noted earlier, I have heard the Credo rattled off without a pause for breath. I doubt one could do that in the vernacular.

Typically the Credo is sung at a Missa Cantana in the EF, so there is more than enough time to grasp the concepts. It is when it is recited in cadence, normally English, when I wonder if more attention is paid to trying to keep pace or concentrate on the prayer itself. I had a manager back in 1970 who kept insisting at the lunch table every day that praying in such cadences does not form a valid prayer. I think he might have had a point. I find my mind wandering at a group rosary, for example.

LOL. You haven’t been to a Mass in Spanish have you? LOL
The Mexican population, much like the Irish, recite the prayers, each at their own pace, so it’s a big cacophony and then Amen amen amen amen. We English speakers tend to speak in unison, taking the same pauses, the same breaths. It’s amazing to hear it in Spanish and everyone is at a different place in the prayers. It also surprised me in Ireland. No even attempted to pray together. Just get it done.

I have attended and I read from the missalette without a problem, probably since I have to work a little in translating to Latin in my mind. I haven’t heard what you experienced but I say let each one recite at his own pace. God hears us either way and he’s not hard of hearing either.

 

[babochka]

LOL. You haven’t been to a Mass in Spanish have you? LOL
The Mexican population, much like the Irish, recite the prayers, each at their own pace, so it’s a big cacophony and then Amen amen amen amen. We English speakers tend to speak in unison, taking the same pauses, the same breaths. It’s amazing to hear it in Spanish and everyone is at a different place in the prayers. It also surprised me in Ireland. No even attempted to pray together. Just get it done.

Chant can help with that problem.

 

[Joe_Kelley]

Note that in the old masses only the celebrant was verbal.

There was an old story that a question arose in Vatican I as to what the laity were to be doing during mass. Supposedly someone answered that they are to kneel with their rosary in one hand and their collection envelope in the other. **

 

[pianistclare]

Typically the Credo is sung at a Missa Cantana in the EF, so there is more than enough time to grasp the concepts. It is when it is recited in cadence, normally English, when I wonder if more attention is paid to trying to keep pace or concentrate on the prayer itself. I had a manager back in 1970 who kept insisting at the lunch table every day that praying in such cadences does not form a valid prayer. I think he might have had a point. I find my mind wandering at a group rosary, for example.

I have attended and I read from the missalette without a problem, probably since I have to work a little in translating to Latin in my mind. I haven’t heard what you experienced but I say let each one recite at his own pace. God hears us either way and he’s not hard of hearing either.

I wasn’t criticizing the practice, just saying that this is why is seems rushed.

 

[BostonMyrtleBea]

Is fifteen minutes about as short as a Mass can be?

We had a priest who did the 7:30pm Sunday Mass. It was always about 25 minutes long, but he was so old he just couldn’t remember what was supposed to be in the Mass.

Odd…

 

[ProVobis]

Note that in the old masses only the celebrant was verbal.

Well, you did have servers who had quite a few responses. The Prayers at the Foot of the Altar, which were cut right after the council, alone took a few minutes easily. Many of the silent prayers, the Offertory prayers, Lavabo, prayers before and after communion were cut later.