Shorts at Mass??

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Perhaps all of this is cultural in determining what is appropriate. Some of you bring up heat and humidity for your justification for shorts and sleeveless. Again this has become part of our culture. Having been exposed to some African familes at church, it struck me how important fine dress for church is for them and most of them being very poor and having lived in extremely hot conditions.
I would agree. If you found yourself in Manhattan in 1910 on a horridly hot and humid day, men would still have been wearing suits and bowlers. Women in long dresses and big hats. They wore the same inside of church.

I’m not sure that was smart in a practical sense but it sure is refreshing compared to the gym trunks, wife-beaters and shower sandals that some prefer to attend Mass in.
 
So you think it’s indecent to wear bare arms in a t-shirt or short sleeve blouse? See…that’s part of the problem…people’s ideals about what is acceptable and what isn’t varies. I mean…sure there are the obvious ones like don’t wear something that barely covers your…😊 but if you are offended by my short sleeves…well that is your problem.:rolleyes: I hardly think God is offended by them.
You’re absolutely right. But if their “ideals” tell them it’s OK to dress like a slob or a prositute for Mass then their ideals are in error. The real question becomes “what is the minmum required to attend the Mass.” That’s the $10.00 question. I think St. Pete’s in the Vatican has addressed this to some degree with a simple sign.
 
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If your eyes don’t wonder from my eyes…there is no twisted mind games - you wouldn’t know what I’m wearing.

Please don’t try to tell me what I think. 😦
Are you really this immature? Or are you just effective at crawling under people’s skin?
Things are just :whacky: now.
 
Definitely an unnecessary aspersion.:tsktsk:
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Topics like this seem to draw all the dissenters, stubborn and rude. It usually draws out the grumpy man inside of me because rather than discussing the implications of such things as non-conformance to a dress code for example, it turns into an insult throwing party. Not worth my time anymore.

Good luck.
 
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Topics like this seem to draw all the dissenters, stubborn and rude.
Dissenting from what? The link you gave concerned modesty, not shorts. I do not think anyone is for immodesy. There is not Catholic Dress Code to dissent from.
 
Pardon me? You said:

I often wonder why some people spend more time worrying about what they wear to church or what other people wear to church then on the condition of their heart for worship.

First how would you know? :confused:

But aside from that you’ve set-up a false dichotomy in an attempt to “prove” your point. You’re trying to equate wardrobe with the condition of one’s heart and it just doesn’t fly. There are other conditions where people care a great and equal amount about both or neither.
I have no “point” to prove in what I said…I was only wondering…which is my progative. I don’t know for sure how much time you spent preparing your heart…but neither do you know about my faith or respect by how I dress…

I’m not equating wardrobe with the condition of one’s heart…that is a leap you made…not me. You can’t possibly tell by someone’s wardrobe…although there are people on this thread that have made that leap.

I would say…worry about your own heart and your OWN wardrobe…
 
You’re absolutely right. But if their “ideals” tell them it’s OK to dress like a slob or a prositute for Mass then their ideals are in error. The real question becomes “what is the minmum required to attend the Mass.” That’s the $10.00 question. I think St. Pete’s in the Vatican has addressed this to some degree with a simple sign.
Yes…St. Pete’s has a sign…and no where does it say no bare arms…or no jeans…😃

You know men can be wearing a shirt and slacks and still look like the dug them out of the wash pile…
 
IMO,You must be easily distracted - all those “sinning girls” - dressing just to impress you.

Don’t blame me 🙂

It’s your constant diatribe that gives me this impression. 🤷🤷

Frankly, IMO If your eyes stray - That’s your personal problem.

I’ve known boys who would undress a gunny-sack.
So I assume my suggestion that all wear sackcloth/burlap cassocks/surplices wont work.🤷

I cannot understand the details a few give on the “immodest” dress they see at mass. How much attention is given to the Mass.
 
It has nothing to do with that all, but with the fact of showing God respect and being decent in his presence.
And you’re still using your own personal definition of that.
I do. Why does this seems so hard to people?
That’s going a little far. I don’t see any reason for it besides personal piety. If that’s in, then that’s fine. Just don’t tell other people that they can’t wear short-sleaves.
For the most part I agree with you here given today’s cultural society. However; to the best of my recollection prior to the early 1970’s and throughout the 1960’s I honestly don’t recall any Catholic Adult wearing shorts in the Church in the summer unless of course it was their young children.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but adults didn’t wear shorts at all really back then, so it’s not really a comparison. It would be like us saying that women never wore pants to Mass 100 years ago, but that’s probably because women never wore pants at all.
 
It seems to me that this topic has gone full circle, what can be said has been said.

Nothing more to to be said on this apart from some bickering and rude comments.

That is my last on this topic
 
So you think it’s indecent to wear bare arms in a t-shirt or short sleeve blouse? See…that’s part of the problem…people’s ideals about what is acceptable and what isn’t varies. I mean…sure there are the obvious ones like don’t wear something that barely covers your…😊 but if you are offended by my short sleeves…well that is your problem.:rolleyes: I hardly think God is offended by them.
I encourage you to watch this sermon and understand why and how important it is to dress properly at mass.
 
And you’re still using your own personal definition of that.

That’s going a little far. I don’t see any reason for it besides personal piety. If that’s in, then that’s fine. Just don’t tell other people that they can’t wear short-sleaves.
Here you are wrong. Fr Dominic Mary is one of priests saying the excactly same and his words word are valid. Mine are just an advice. I cannot speak of what the Lord thinks.

But i can advice to modesty and dignity. Would you want me to encourage to carelessness, lying and inmodest behaviour at mass instead?
No way, i cannot do that.
 
I do not mind if people wear short sleeved shirts to Mass. I would prefer they not:

*Show cleavage (women)
*Chest hair (men)
*Vulgarity, bad quotes and bad logos on shirts (both)
*Sports teams (unless you had no chance to change from them due to time - competition or practice)

Those types of shirts listed above are fine for activities outside church and Mass. But not for inside of it.
 
I do not mind if people wear short sleeved shirts to Mass. I would prefer they not:

*Show cleavage (women)
*Chest hair (men)
*Vulgarity, bad quotes and bad logos on shirts (both)
*Sports teams (unless you had no chance to change from them due to time - competition or practice)

Those types of shirts listed above are fine for activities outside church and Mass. But not for inside of it.
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