Should Cardinal Cupich apologize?

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Of course he should apologize.

Francis isn’t Latino. He’s 100% Italian.
 
dumbox said:
Francis isn’t Latino. He’s 100% Italian.
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I would say he is a Latino, as I explained in my comment #22. He is also, presumably, Italian, since anyone whose parents are Italian is entitled, by law, to Italian citizenship. Why do you think he isn’t a Latino?
 
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Again, that means that anyone who disagreed with anything the prior Popes said as being as either Anti-Polish or Anti-German.
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No, it doesn’t. Disagreement with anything prior popes said MAY be anti-Polish or anti-German. Racisim exists, against Latinos, against Polish people and against German people.

Again, there MAY or MAY NOT be a race card played here. Since nothing is proven, or even all the evidence gathered, nothing can be stated for sure. That includes IF it is an issue of race.
 
His parents are both Italian. That to me says it all. Everyone can have their own opinion of course.

I found it odd how Cupich pulled out the race card so quickly. Unbelievable and too obvious. He was also pulling out the “can’t we get back to the enviroment and immigration issues” too, papering over a huge abuse mess, unresolved.
 
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therese1998 said:
No, it doesn’t. Disagreement with anything prior popes said MAY be anti-Polish or anti-German. Racisim exists, against Latinos, against Polish people and against German people.

Again, there MAY or MAY NOT be a race card played here. Since nothing is proven, or even all the evidence gathered, nothing can be stated for sure. That includes IF it is an issue of race.
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Using Cardinal Cupich’s method of evaluating, it absolutely seems that he is saying that people are challenging the Pope because they don’t like that he’s “Latin”. So, why should we assume that the Cardinal would think any different concerning our previous Popes? He must think that people that didn’t like the previous Pope’s policies were against them only because they were Polish or German. Or is he being inconsistent? This isn’t about “nothing is proven” or “nothing can be stated for sure”. It is about Cardinal Cupich’s comments which are out of line. He stated that he thinks people DON’T LIKE THE POPE because the Pope is Latin. That’s a horrible accusation. It is playing the race card…absolutely.
 
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Using Cardinal Cupich’s method of evaluating, it absolutely seems that he is saying that people are challenging the Pope because they don’t like that he’s “Latin”. So, why should we assume that the Cardinal would think any different concerning our previous Popes? He must think that people that didn’t like the previous Pope’s policies were against them only because they were Polish or German. Or is he being inconsistent? This isn’t about “nothing is proven” or “nothing can be stated for sure”. It is about Cardinal Cupich’s comments which are out of line. He stated that he thinks people DON’T LIKE THE POPE because the Pope is Latin. That’s a horrible accusation. It is playing the race card…absolutely.
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Sorry, I don’t agree. That’s just the way I see it and we can argue til the cows come home, but racism is real. And, as I stated, previous disagreements may or MAY NOT have been about discrimination. EACH statement must be evaluated on its own merits IF we have all the information we need. If Cardinal Capich feels there is a racial element to whether the Pope is liked or disliked by SOME people, it’s his right to say so.

Racism exists and playing the racial card also exists. I’m saying that just because someone says that others are racist doesn’t mean they ARE and it doesn’t mean they AREN’T. It’s just a statement that reflects someone’s beliefs. I’m not interested in demanding someone deny their beliefs because I made a fuss over them.
 
therese1998 said:
If Cardinal Capich feels there is a racial element to whether the Pope is liked or disliked by SOME people, it’s his right to say so.
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It may be his “right” to say so…but that doesn’t mean it’s RIGHT to say it. Saying something like what he said is accusatory and demeaning. It is WRONG to say it and is also a falsehood. I disagree with things the Pope has said. That doesn’t mean I’m against him since he’s supposedly “Latin”. Far from it. His nationality or heritage hasn’t crossed my mind. Cardinal Cupich did not have any “qualifiers” or anything that diminishes what the words are in his statement. He has made a judgement (again, who are we to judge) that is incorrect. Indeed, racism exists. That is not what this is about. If he, however, is calling people racists (and, essentially that is what he has said by saying people are against the Pope simply because he’s “Latin”) then he needs to apologize. It’s not a sin to have beliefs and keep your mouth shut. It is a sin to make accusations about someone that are not true and to vocalize them (even if you believe those accusations to be true).
 
Okay, I’ve said my peace and I stand by it. At this point, I’m only rehashing the points I’ve made prior while you keep rehashing your argument with them.

I would say any productive discussion is over at this point. I would say we need to agree to disagree.
 
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