Should Catholic priests consult seers?

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Self explanatory. My first answer is no, but I am searching the CCC and the CCL for a definative answer. I believe scripture would denounce this practice as well. Your thoughts please.
The seer(s) in question is a member of the laity, no special office.
 
By a seer, do you mean like a mystic?

I dunno, If it were that case, I guess they could, but they would have to take what the person says as a grain of salt…🤷
 
CCC 2116 All forms of divination are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to “unveil” the future. Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone.
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That would be extremely serious and mortally sinful. It is divination, see above, and can very well set Satan or a demon close to one’s soul.
 
If by seer, you mean somebody to do with an eye-care-professional, feel free.

If by seer, you mean those who use, or pretend to use witchcraft to know the future, or other unknowable things, well, that puts the soul in danger of the devil’s hold.
 
Jordan719 said:
Should Catholic priests consult seers?
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Indeed, priests and laity alike have traditionally consulted with seers. Large pilgrimages would be undertaken to consult with Saints who were seers.
 
If by seer, do you mean by messengers that get messages from God?
 
If you read the OP’s other post, the OP is talking about talking with a visionary. It seems in this case he is referring to the apparitions of Medjugorje.
  1. It is not wrong to talk to or discuss visions of a visionary of approved apparitions
  2. It is not necessarily wrong to talk to a visionary of an unapproved apparition. Medjugorje is currently under investigation in Rome (CDF). It has not been ruled false, nor has it been approved at this point.
The OP is not really clear on what he means by “consult” one of these visionaries. In another post the OP asks if a priest can talk about Medjugorje in a homily. So it seems there is something his priest has said or done that he has concerns about.

My suggestion to the OP is to talk to his priest about his concerns.
 
YoungTradCath said:
I believe the quote from the Catechism covers “seer.”
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I disagree. From the context of his other post, it is clear that by “seer” he means a recipient of an apparition or locution. And of course, that is not what the Church is talking about in that Catechism paragraph.
 
YoungTradCath said:
I believe the quote from the Catechism covers “seer.”
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Well, a “seer” popularly means one who can see the future, although I was considering a wider meaning. In the sense of seeing the future, a prophet is a seer. The prophet doesn’t seek to divine the future, though, and it is the active seeking to see the future which is condemned, not seeing the future.
 
Jordan719 said:
Self explanatory. My first answer is no, but I am searching the CCC and the CCL for a definative answer. I believe scripture would denounce this practice as well. Your thoughts please.
The seer(s) in question is a member of the laity, no special office.
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You are obviously not talking about a Church approved visionary, of which there are very few, never mind alive.
The answer is NO! NO! NO!
 
I’d personally say, for reasons of sheer prudence, “NEVER.” :mad:

I’ve personally heard of a man like this, who was a self-processed “seer”. He was a fairly creepy individual, but managed to get a few older, orthodox Sisters to “consult” him regularly. Among some of his “visionary” strategies were:
  1. Seeing “numbers” (such as 7) and drawing bizarre conclusions from them (“make your business deal on the 7TH DAY”!)
  2. Telling a young man that he had to argue with and be disrespectful to his father, because “his visions told him so.” :confused:
  3. Giving his “clients” a “special Rosary” to wear… which, curiously enough, was missing a bead (49 instead of 50) :eek:
I think it’s safe to say that people like this should be avoided like the plague.
 
1ke said:
If you read the OP’s other post, the OP is talking about talking with a visionary. It seems in this case he is referring to the apparitions of Medjugorje.
  1. It is not wrong to talk to or discuss visions of a visionary of approved apparitions
  2. It is not necessarily wrong to talk to a visionary of an unapproved apparition. Medjugorje is currently under investigation in Rome (CDF). It has not been ruled false, nor has it been approved at this point.
The OP is not really clear on what he means by “consult” one of these visionaries. In another post the OP asks if a priest can talk about Medjugorje in a homily. So it seems there is something his priest has said or done that he has concerns about.

My suggestion to the OP is to talk to his priest about his concerns.
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That would be my advice as well.
 
I am speaking in regards to two different priests. The priest I am discussing in this thread consults a seer from his parish who is a member of the laity. From the information I gathered the seer is self appointed and does not report to any Church authority.
 
Jordan719 said:
I am speaking in regards to two different priests. The priest I am discussing in this thread consults a seer from his parish who is a member of the laity. From the information I gathered the seer is self appointed and does not report to any Church authority.
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Information gathered from who and where?
Unless you heard it directly from the priest, that is called gossip.
 
JustaServant said:
Information gathered from who and where?
Unless you heard it directly from the priest, that is called gossip.
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The priest told me he consulted the seer and she told him the future. No clergy will be named here.
 
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