Should children of Terrorists be allowed to live back in Australia/US etc

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When citizens of countries like Australia,Germany,America etc decided to go to Syria and fight for IS,if the parents have passed away in Syria should the children be allowed back to the parents country of citizenship?

Also,what if the mother is still alive and willingly went-what should happen then?

Is there a Catholic view.

What,also in the instances that the children are now teenage girls and have child/ren of their own with a terrorist they married in Syria ( referring to marriage not by force)?
 
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It actually wouldn’t be a bad idea to get them across the globe, away from those toxic influences from their immediate communities.
 
Of course, they are kids. Taking your kid to a terrorist stronghold is a form of child abuse. These kids need help, support and love like all children who are the victims of abuse.
 
I live in Australia and a lot of people here believe the children shouldn’t be allowed back because they believe in that time period they will have been conditioned to Isis-like ways and they fear this.

Personally I think children should be allowed back for the reason you mentioned because children are innocent and it is child abuse to take them there but it becomes a bit harder what to think in the instances where girls have now become teens (but already widowed) and have their own children over there and they willingly wear full face cover.
People are worried that if allowed back they may cause something to happen in Australia.
 
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There’s the case if one boy -half Lebanese Australian and half Aussie Australian who was taken to Syria by his parents and forced to hold decapitated heads.

Some people believe he should not have been allowed to go back to Oz because these instances would have changed him too much but in my view,he is a victim but would need lots of psychological support.

My concern is,if the Governments don’t put that in place what might happen as he grows older?
 
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I think it would be tough to have a specific policy on this. It seems to me that questions like this would need to be handled on a case by case basis.
 
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People are worried that if allowed back they may cause something to happen in Australia.
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I’d be more concerned that if they’re not allowed back they could endure further brainwashing . . . and cause something to happen in Australia.

But again, it would be a case -by-case. A 17-year-old may (or may not) be too far gone already. But there’s certainly hope for younger children.
 
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I am Australian, a lot of people also believe the children and forced and tricked brides of these now dead men should be allowed home and raised to be Australian eat vegemite, go surfing and wear thongs .

Some of these stories of what the women went through are horrific
 
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should the children be allowed back to the parents country of citizenship?
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This is an interesting phrasing, since the State is under obligation to receive its citizens.

The only exception are those persons who are in Statelessness <<-- I do recommend giving this situation some thought and attention.

(So it boils down to a non-issue, or “false issue” since Australia has no other choice but to receive those kids. Except if they had dual-nationality, in which case a diplomatic conflict could happen with both States wanting to get rid of the citizen - if neither were willing to accept him, he/she’d probably end up in Statelessness seeking asylum in a third country.)
 
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Ok,will do:)

I think this is what happened with one girl Shamima Begum from England that Bangladesh claimed she did not have dual citizenship there?
 
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So it boils down to a non-issue, or “false issue” since Australia has no other choice but to receive those kids. Except if they had dual-nationality, in which case a diplomatic conflict could happen with both States wanting to get rid of the citizen - if neither were willing to accept him, he/she’d probably end up in Statelessness seeking asylum in a third country.)
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Actually it doesnt under terrorism laws.
 
These are not children born in Australia. They were born into the terrorist centred kabals or refugee camps in the middle east.
 
www.abc.net.au

Syrian detention camp with Australian stranded families under lockdown - ABC listen

Sydney man Kamalle Dabboussy's daughter Mariam and her three children are among the 62 Australian women and children stranded in Syria after the collapse of Islamic State. He's the spokesman for families in that camp and he joins AM.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au

There are apparently 62 women and children in Syrian detention camps now wanting to come back to Australia. I think Rozellily related above that at least one of these children, a young boy, was photographed holding the bloody head of someone ISIS had just decapitated. These children will need serious deprogramming to be able to live among people their parents have raised them to believe are Western infidels who deserve to be killed.

Their reintergration will have to be supervised with great care and caution.
 
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OurLadyofSorrows said:
These are not children born in Australia.
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the OP mentioned children/youngsters that were born in Australian.

even if born abroad a citizen can apply for the nationality of their parents/grandparents.
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Actually it doesnt under terrorism laws.
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that’s on a case-by-case basis. human rights apply and the State would have to prove beyond a doubt reasons to deny nationality.
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Their reintergration will have to be supervised with great care and caution.
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Yes!! Turning those youth away isn’t going to solve anything.
 
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Rozellelily said:
Ok,will do:)

I think this is what happened with one girl Shamima Begum from England that Bangladesh claimed she did not have dual citizenship there?
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Hadn’t heard about her case before you referred it.

all I can say is: WHAT A MESS!!!
 
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What happened to the relatives of Catholics who were Irish terrorists during the Troubles. And what happens in relation to the families of members of dissident Irish terrorist groups today? Far more likely to be an issue with the Irish, given the relative descent populations in Australia and the US.
 
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