Should Christians believe in New World Order One World Government Illuminati Conspiracy Theories ?

[mikejohnson2006]

Should Christians believe in New World Order One World Government Illuminati Conspiracy Theories or not ? What Im trying to ask is should we say that the Anti Christ is already here or will he just appear I always hear Consiracy people say that the Anti Christ is already in control of the World my point is that I believe in the Second Coming of Christ I believe that Israel being a nation is a sign of the End Times but in my view the Anti Christ and or the Real Christ have not appeared yet ?

Bush is a phony Christian

Resistance Manifesto | November 28, 2006
John Conner

Many Christians live in ignorance, thinking it will protect them from the evil in this world. While believing and proclaiming that Jesus will return soon, they seem blind to the fact that the Antichrist isn’t just going to pop up out of nowhere and then magically take control of the government and the people. Many Christians fail to see that for generations, the infrastructure and foundation was being built to stage the grand finale.

infowars.com/articles/occ…_christian.htm

 

[Rascalking]

Your free to believe whatever you want, but believing in the rubbish like this is truly detrimental to Christianity. It makes all Christians look like lunatics.

The worst part about people who believe in conspiracies is that nothing can convince them otherwise. You can try to reason with them-they just stand there. You can show them the facts-they just stand there. It’s more sad than anything else, but it’s best to just ignore them.

To me, people who believe in those things are like the man on main street in my town who took too much LSD and thinks he is a glass of orange juice.

 

[CompSciGuy]

Should Christians believe in New World Order One World Government Illuminati Conspiracy Theories or not ? What Im trying to ask is should we say that the Anti Christ is already here or will he just appear I always hear Consiracy people say that the Anti Christ is already in control of the World my point is that I believe in the Second Coming of Christ I believe that Israel being a nation is a sign of the End Times but in my view the Anti Christ and or the Real Christ have not appeared yet ?

Bush is a phony Christian

Resistance Manifesto | November 28, 2006
John Conner

Many Christians live in ignorance, thinking it will protect them from the evil in this world. While believing and proclaiming that Jesus will return soon, they seem blind to the fact that the Antichrist isn’t just going to pop up out of nowhere and then magically take control of the government and the people. Many Christians fail to see that for generations, the infrastructure and foundation was being built to stage the grand finale.

infowars.com/articles/occ…_christian.htm

I have posted this before: Go to google and type in any famous/well-known person’s name followed by illuminati. I tried “Ben Stiller.” See how many links come up. There are literally thousands of people who do nothing but make up conspiracy theories about the illuminati and the new world order and post them on poorly-formatted websites. Most of them are probably schizophrenics or drug addicts. Why on earth would you believe in these things?

If I were you I would stop worrying about the antichrist. Follow Christ in his Church and strive to grow in holiness and do justice. You can’t go wrong.

 

[KathleenGee]

Yes…restoration is found in Christ. Follow Him…and let what falls, fall…As Jesus said, “Look up…your redemption is at hand…rejoice.”

 

[Seamus_L]

Most conspiracy theories are unprovable, but it is part of our sinful human nature to attempt to cover up our wrong doings.
Some things to keep in mind when passing judgement on those labeled as conspiracy theorists. With a little luck, Watergate, My Lai and the Gulf of Tonkin Incident might still be considered Conspiracy theories. And, remember that the greatest conspiracy theory of our time, Y2K, which was positively insane to begin with, was promoted my both the government and the newsmedia.

 

[centurionguard]

Should Christians believe in New World Order One World Government Illuminati Conspiracy Theories or not ? What I’m trying to ask is should we say that the Anti Christ is already here or will he just appear I always hear Conspiracy people say that the Anti Christ is already in control of the World my point is that I believe in the Second Coming of Christ I believe that Israel being a nation is a sign of the End Times but in my view the Anti Christ and or the Real Christ have not appeared yet ?

Bush is a phony Christian

Resistance Manifesto | November 28, 2006
John Conner

Many Christians live in ignorance, thinking it will protect them from the evil in this world. While believing and proclaiming that Jesus will return soon, they seem blind to the fact that the Antichrist isn’t just going to pop up out of nowhere and then magically take control of the government and the people. Many Christians fail to see that for generations, the infrastructure and foundation was being built to stage the grand finale.

infowars.com/articles/occ…_christian.htm

In today’s world its not difficult to see how people can easily get caught-up in all this especially when being bombarded by sensational eye catching global events and the spiral downward fall of Christian Morality on the societal world scene.

Satan is an absolute Master Pro when it comes to deception and taking peoples hearts and souls away from the direction of Focus on God.

Stick with the Bible, go to Church and keep a sincere prayer life and live for today. Never mind tomorrow.

Read Matthew Chapter 24 Verses 1-51
drbo.org/chapter/47024.htm

[36] But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone. [37] And as in the days of Noe, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. [38]

 

[Joe_5859]

Weclome to CAF, Mike!

No, Christians should not believe in conspiracy theories. They should believe in Jesus.

 

[KathleenGee]

Also, place yourself in the Immaculate Heart of Mary during these difficult times…

 

[josephback]

No, because they’re silly. Powerful people fix the rules in their favor and always will. This isn’t a conspiracy. Instead of trying to change what we cannot we should focus on what we can; namely ourselves. After that get involved in worthy causes like the pro-life movement. But we shouldn’t develop an obsessional belief that we need to overthrow the government and set up a “new order”. That’s generally based on midlife dissatisfaction. The former oppressed would quickly become the new oppressors and the wheel would just turn one more revolution. It’s been done before:sad_yes:

 

[anruari]

Let me ask a couple of questions?
Even if these things were true… what possible benefit could there be to you in paying attention to them?
As otherwise stated: there is always going to be a ruling “class” who have their own agendas.
Those agendas will never be the agenda of the Lord. even if they say it is.

The Jesus tells us: “Give to Caesar what belongs to Ceasar, and give to The Lord what belongs to The Lord”

St. Paul tells us to obey our secular authorities: their authority has been given to them by God. It is only when they start to abuse that authority in such an extreme manner that it prevents us from being Christians by either our action or our inaction that we become compelled to try to change the status quo.
Obviously in a democracy that is slightly different, as we have a right and a duty to help elect the most appropriate rulers who have the least objectionable moral stance.

But: at the end of the day our rulers will be Human; they will Sin; they will abuse their power.
They may be Freemasons. They may be Scientologists. They may be Jews. They may be Opus Dei. They may be Mormon

All these organisations are real organisations who do exist, and who do have members in important positions in many governments. some have public or leaked statements that they want to gain and use their influence- others do not.

The Opus Dei, for example are a valid, official part of Catholicism. They are an organisation which place a special emphasis on the ability of ordinary, non ordained people to live Holy lives in the real world, and to be evangelical, and to put their faith into practice in their profession.
They have NEVER attempted to directly control any government: for example in the period of the Franco Government they were accused of having several members highly placed in his government. That was true. there were several people in his government who were members of the Opus Dei, but there were also several senior members of the opposition and of unofficial opposition organisations that were members of Opus Dei as well. To be a member of Opus Dei requires that you are Christian, and normally assumes that you are Catholic. as almost all of Spain at the time was Catholic, or from catholic family background, and as the Opus Dei was a massive movement in Spain at the time it is hardly surprising.

Similarly there are members of recent UK Governments who have been members of several of these organisations. Some publicly identified as such, others in secret. The same is true of other countries. -
So What!?!?
Should someone be excluded from standing for election on the grounds of their religion?
Does someone nominally being a Christian mean that all their decisions will be right or in keeping with the teachings of that religion? (look at Bush & Blair?)
Should Mormons be excluded from government because their religion can be shown to promote the idea of a Mormon Theocracy?
Should Jews?
Should Christians?

Now: what of the Illuminati? 1) they are highly unlikely to exist. 2) even if they do what makes you think they would be any more successful than the Masons, Mormons, or Scientologists at achieving the control over the government(s) that they are claimed to seek?
which brings me back to my previous question:
So What!?!

 

[Zooey]

Your free to believe whatever you want, but believing in the rubbish like this is truly detrimental to Christianity. It makes all Christians look like lunatics.

The worst part about people who believe in conspiracies is that nothing can convince them otherwise. You can try to reason with them-they just stand there. You can show them the facts-they just stand there. It’s more sad than anything else, but it’s best to just ignore them.

To me, people who believe in those things are like the man on main street in my town who took too much LSD and thinks he is a glass of orange juice.

:sad_yes:

Weclome to CAF, Mike!

No, Christians should not believe in conspiracy theories. They should believe in Jesus.

I am now going to go google my name + “illuminati”. If I get more than a dozen hits, I expect you all to show up at my door to have my cat stamp your foreheads with the pawprint stamp & inkpad I use to sign our Christmas cards.

 

[Joe_5859]

I am now going to go google my name + “illuminati”. If I get more than a dozen hits, I expect you all to show up at my door to have my cat stamp your foreheads with the pawprint stamp & inkpad I use to sign our Christmas cards.

I just did that with my name + “illuminati” and I got 149,000 hits!

 

[pablope]

Should Christians believe in New World Order One World Government Illuminati Conspiracy Theories or not ? What Im trying to ask is should we say that the Anti Christ is already here or will he just appear I always hear Consiracy people say that the Anti Christ is already in control of the World my point is that I believe in the Second Coming of Christ I believe that Israel being a nation is a sign of the End Times but in my view the Anti Christ and or the Real Christ have not appeared yet ?

infowars.com/articles/occ…_christian.htm

As other have said, believe what you want to believe.

This was asked on Catholic Answers ( i think) several months ago…and I will paraphrase the answer based on my recollection…

A caller asked (I think he was a protestant) and was worried about this end times, etc…and asked how can he be sure to join the right church to be saved.

And answer…go to where St. Peter is, and his Church, established by Christ, on rock. That Church will never fall, as promised by Christ, that the gates of hell shall not prevail over it.

 

[Zooey]

I just did that with my name + “illuminati” and I got 149,000 hits!

uch:
:newidea:Would you like** my** pet to give** your **pet the information about the stamp??

ETA: I got :bigyikesver 3 million:frighten:…:hypno::hypno::hypno:

 

[Joe_5859]

uch:
:newidea:Would you like** my** pet to give** your **pet the information about the stamp??

ETA: I got :bigyikesver 3 million:frighten:…:hypno::hypno::hypno:

Thanks, now I don’t feel so bad.

I don’t have any pets, but perhaps your pet can send a telepathic message to all the stray cats in our neighborhood. Truth be told, though, I’m fairly certain they’re a part of the conspiracy. They’re always watching me like they know something that I don’t…

 

[CompSciGuy]

I just did that with my name + “illuminati” and I got 149,000 hits!

Funny, I tried it with my name and got 11 hits total and none of them actually linked me with the illuminati. I guess that means I’m one of the few good guys.

 

[Joe_5859]

Funny, I tried it with my name and got 11 hits total and none of them actually linked me with the illuminati. I guess that means I’m one of the few good guys.

…Or maybe you’ve just done a better job of covering your tracks…

 

[chakimcai]

then I’ve done a really super great job of covrering my tracks, cause I put my name in + illuminati and I got nothin’.

maggie

 

[pablope]

Funny, I tried it with my name and got 11 hits total and none of them actually linked me with the illuminati. I guess that means I’m one of the few good guys.

I tried mine…got 8 Million hits…but directs the name to Ron Paul…

 

[Ben_F]

Should Christians believe in New World Order One World Government Illuminati Conspiracy Theories or not ? What Im trying to ask is should we say that the Anti Christ is already here or will he just appear I always hear Consiracy people say that the Anti Christ is already in control of the World my point is that I believe in the Second Coming of Christ I believe that Israel being a nation is a sign of the End Times but in my view the Anti Christ and or the Real Christ have not appeared yet ?

Bush is a phony Christian

Resistance Manifesto | November 28, 2006
John Conner

Many Christians live in ignorance, thinking it will protect them from the evil in this world. While believing and proclaiming that Jesus will return soon, they seem blind to the fact that the Antichrist isn’t just going to pop up out of nowhere and then magically take control of the government and the people. Many Christians fail to see that for generations, the infrastructure and foundation was being built to stage the grand finale.

infowars.com/articles/occ…_christian.htm

A phony Christian is someone that pretends he or she knows what´s in the heart of others. I would never say Obama is a phony Christian. I might think it. God bless:thumbsup: