Should Christians embrace evolution ?

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The claimed mechanism for evolution – random chance and natural selection – does not exist and none is known.
Again you are being lied to by your creationist sources. Random chance is not a mechanism of evolution, random mutations are a mechanism of evolution. There are other mechanisms such as sexual selection, founder effect, neutral drift to go alongside natural selection. We have experimental evidence for random mutations and we have experimental evidence for natural selection.

Your creationist sources are lying again. They are not Christian, they follow Christianity Lite, the one with only nine commandments.
There is no fossil evidence – there are no intermediate types of any kind, and for mankind from hominids, the specimens are either fully human, fully animal or fake, and there have been many fakes by those without integrity.
There is ample fossil evidence for human ancestry. All humans are classified in the Animalia by biologists. Unless you can show what a fossilised human soul looks like then all fossils are going to lok like animal fossils.

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There is no fossil evidence – there are no intermediate types of any kind, and for mankind from hominids, the specimens are either fully human, fully animal or fake, and there have been many fakes by those without integrity.
Your first claim is an outright lie – the world’s paleontological museums are crammed with transitional fossil sequences.

As for your second claim, can you offer some examples of.“fakes by those without integrity”?
 
Evolutionists and modernists are right and St. Pius X was wrong. As for its effect on belief - cry me a river.

A perfect God could never willfully send a delusion. A “God” that would do such a thing is not worthy of worship but only of contempt.
But the devil deals in delusions every day. You may be a victim.
 
Evolutionism demands a changing material world that engulfs, swallows and changes dogmas. This is a farcical betrayal of revealed religion and is utterly incompatible with the revelation of the Word of God. …The Holy Roman Catholic Church never has, can not and will not ever support evolutionism as truth. The day she would, she would sign her own death warrant. … Today more and more Catholics are seduced by the syncretism of darwinism and Christianity. Just as ancient Jerusalem fell under the wrath of God, so also a great and terrifying judment awaits those who today adulter the Word of God.
CJ, you’d better get ready to move back to the fourteenth century. Evolution is here to stay. Convincing science to replace it with the creation story of an ancient tribal people is going to be difficult, if not impossible. The last two popes have accepted it, and most educated bishops, clergy, theologians and laity accept it. You might read Ilia Delio’s Christ in Evolution.

StAnastasia
 
CJ, you’d better get ready to move back to the fourteenth century. Evolution is here to stay. Convincing science to replace it with the creation story of an ancient tribal people is going to be difficult, if not impossible. The last two popes have accepted it, and most educated bishops, clergy, theologians and laity accept it. You might read Ilia Delio’s Christ in Evolution.

StAnastasia
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Good morning, NowAgnostic -
Evolutionists and modernists are right and St. Pius X was wrong. As for its effect on belief - cry me a river.
Evolutionists, modernists, the heavens and the earth shall pass away, but the word of the Lord God Most High, God the Holy Trinity endures beyond time.
A perfect God could never willfully send a delusion. A “God” that would do such a thing is not worthy of worship but only of contempt.
He takes responsibility for His creation, the laws of which allows sinners to fall into delusion, when they reject God and His word.
 
Evolutionists and modernists are right and St. Pius X was wrong. As for its effect on belief - cry me a river.
Evolutionists, modernists, the heavens and the earth shall all pass away; however, the word of the Lord God Most High, the Holy Trinity shall endure beyond time.
A perfect God could never willfully send a delusion. A “God” that would do such a thing is not worthy of worship but only of contempt.
I believe that our God is responsible for His creation, the intangible laws of which allow people to delude themselve, when they reject His word. Be careful how you judge the God we worship, lest you be judged as you judge.
 
ricmat, I don’t know what your acquaintance with science is. Let me tell you that scientific knowledge is provisional, subject to correction, refinement in accuracy, and cogency in explanation. Human knowledge about the dimensions and nature of the universe has changed dramatically in the last 2,500 years, leading us from a rather small and compact geocentric cosmos to the unbounded universe we picture today. The fact that astronomers and cosmologists do not yet have a definitive measurement of the universe is testimony to the provisional character of scientific knowledge.

StAnastasia
Dr. StAnastasia, I’m an engineer, thank you. Science is the basis of our discipline.

Most scientists tell you that they know how big the universe is, what it is made of, how it works in detail, and leave no room for doubt or uncertainty. Indeed you ridicule people for not believing the current scientific explanations of things. You say things like they should return to the 14th century, etc… But then, as above, you say that science is provisional. You have a big contradiction there. Either science can be wrong, or it can’t. Most of the time you come down on the science-can’t-be-wrong side.

But it can be wrong.

The point of my asking about measuring the span of the heavens was to make you think why God asked that question to begin with. Is your Pride so great that you think you know the answer? Most scientists will say, yes we know the answer.
 
But then, as above, you say that science is provisional. You have a big contradiction there. Either science can be wrong, or it can’t. Most of the time you come down on the science-can’t-be-wrong side.
ricmat, I don’t believe I’ve every argued that scientific conclusions cannot be wrong. And I haven’t met a cosmologist who takes an absolutist position. Joel Primack of U.C., Santa Cruz – one of the proposers of the “cold dark matter” theory – would be the first to admit that his theory could be falsified. There is as yet no evidence to falsify it, but it might be.

Another cosmologist whom I first met in 1997 said that the jury was out on whether gravitational forces might some day overcome expansion to pull the universe back together in a reverse of the Big Bang, dubbed the “Big Crunch.” She now says that the jury seems to be in on that question, and that the expansion of the universe is actually accelerating, rendering the “Big Crunch” scenario untenable. That suggests to me that she is not scientistically dogmatic – she conceded that her original theory is unsubstantiable.

StAnatasia
 
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Buffalo, I love medieval art and architecture, music and spirituality. I’m not a fan of medieval science, dentistry, obstetrics, surgery, or criminal justice. Medieval technology can be fun – my fourteen-year old just built an excellent and effective catapault for a school project!
 
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Thanks for your effort and for reporting it; now, I know it’s neither my computer nor my server.
 
Sir, you accuse yourself here. The Pope is speaking (in his own words) against modernism. Modernism is based on an errant natural science that cannot be reconciled with revelation. He explains in Pascendi Dominici Gregis that the error of modernism is based on its adherence to evolution.
I’m sorry, but just because a belief is based upon a scientific theory doesn’t mean that the idea follows logically or necessarily from what it is based upon. There are many erroneous versions of Christianity that are based on the gospel of Jesus Christ. It does not follow that all the gospels are false.

Its very simple. How scary that i live in a world with people who cannot grasp something so simple.
You also presume to speak for the Church.
I am not speaking for the Church. I am telling you what the Church has told me!
in averring that Popes have in official teaching accepted, supported or endorsed evolutionism, theistic or otherwise.
So according to you the Church teaches that the scientific theory of evolution is an evil lie promoted by modernists and atheists?😃

Its not hard to Google the churches official position on the theory of evolution. But you are only interested in promoting fallacious propaganda. There is no excuse. Perhaps your pride will not allow you to see the light. The Catholic Church, in so far as divine revelation is concerned, neither accepts evolution or rejects it as a core teaching of the faith; simply because it s not a matter of faith. Its a scientific matter. In so for as theology is concerned, there are no irreconcilable elements in the Theory Of Evolution; and that is to say there is no contradictions in what has been purported to be scientifically proven evidentially speaking.
Yes, many people do think they know what a Pope is saying when they don’t. Comments by Popes making personal observations in a pastoral setting are not binding on any Christian. Papal Encyclicals such as Pascendi Dominici Gregis and Humani Generis address evolution frontally and far from accepting or supporting it, roundly condemn all conflict with revelation. These Encyclicals are official Church teaching, yea, the voice of Peter, and are binding upon every baptized person.
If there was an intrinsic problem with the theory of evolution, they would not support it at all; they would explicitly condemn it in its entirety and would not waste time trying to explain whats okay to believe about evolution and what is not. The Pope would not say publicly that the Theory of Evolution is more than a hypothesis, since that is giving the theory scientific respectability, and thus an element of truth. He would have rejected it as materialist propaganda. The Pope knows what evolution involves. Evolution involves chance, biological change, as well as natural selection as a defining element in the development of living organisms. Without these factors, there is no theory of evolution. It either happened or it didn’t. The Church rejects materialism and is very explicit about what is acceptable for a christian to believe. Christians are free to believe the theory of evolution as represented by the scientific theory and the evidence, so long as it is in respect of their faith, judgment, and conscience; but only this and not that which is taught by materialist propaganda.
The modernist supposes that because his viewpoints have received widespread acceptance among church leaders that the Church supports evolution. The Holy Roman Catholic Church never has, can not and will not ever support evolutionism as truth.
It does not deny it either, and it has not and never will accept the idea that there is an intrinsic contradiction between Church teaching and the theory of evolution.
The day she would, she would sign her own death warrant.
Then i am afraid you already missed the funeral.
Finally, many leaders in Israel accepted the syncretism of the Canaanite religions with Yahwism. The books of Jeremiah, Ezechiel and 1st and 2nd Kings chronicle this apostasy with much detail. That syncretism with nature worship brought decay, degeneracy, compromise, loss of faith, treachery, blasphemy and finally the wrath of the LORD when the Babylonians destroyed Jerusalem in 586 BC. The prophets have always been persecuted, ridiculed, insulted, and denounced. Today more and more Catholics are seduced by the syncretism of darwinism and Christianity. Just as ancient Jerusalem fell under the wrath of God, so also a great and terrifying judment awaits those who today adulter the Word of God.
The theory of evolution is not a form of worship. It is a scientific theory, which you are free to reject or accept according to Catholic teaching.
 
Did the devil put the fossils in the ground and create Dna?
Perhaps the evilushunist siuntists made all the “fossils” in there labitories and went around the wurld at nite, berrying them so we wold digg them up and think their real and bulieve they’re evil theiry about specie like munkies coming from lezards and men from microbes
 
Perhaps the evilushunist siuntists made all the “fossils” in there labitories and went around the wurld at nite, berrying them so we wold digg them up and think their real and bulieve they’re evil theiry about specie like munkies coming from lezards and men from microbes
😃
 
No - you are missing the point by a wide margin. We observe what we observe, the devil enters in when we start the human reasoning process.
Okay, how about this. Did the Devil make as think that there was fossils in the ground and that there is such a thing as Dna?
 
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