Should I be a Eucharistic minister?

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RichT:
Well, all you anti EMHC’s will love this. My parish uses 40 EMHC’s at every mass. There is just no way it could be done without that many due to the size of our parish unless of course we all wanted to have two hour masses.😛
How big is your parish??? That’s enough ministers for a PAPAL Mass!

Betsy
 
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RichT:
Well, all you anti EMHC’s will love this. My parish uses 40 EMHC’s at every mass. There is just no way it could be done without that many due to the size of our parish unless of course we all wanted to have two hour masses.😛
I think 40 EMHC’s would definately fall into the extreme category, although I have seen some churches where the design almost demanded a herd of EMHCs (asymetrical aisles, pews in the round) etc. Some of these church architects should stick to designing airplane hangers.

I agree with Debi’s post that in many parishes EMHC’s are necessary if there is going to be communion in both kinds. We have one priest, no deacons and we use 2 EMHC’s at each weekend mass as ministers of the cup. Weekday masses only distribute the blessed host. So I can see the point that if a parish wishes to offer communion in both kinds, EMHC’s seem to be justified if no other regular ministers of communion are available.

And by the way, I wouldn’t mind a 2-hour mass at all.

Blessings.
 
First of all, you should only be a Eucharistic minister if God gives you a vocation to the priesthood! 😉

But I was commissioned as an Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion (and, yes, I’m fighting to get the terminology cleaned up in my parish, too) this Easter, and I serve ONLY by carrying Communion to the homebound. Soon I hope to be able to start at the hospital and nursing homes, too.

I declined to go on the list for our Masses because I feel we overuse them and I don’t want to contribute to more traffic jams… PLUS, in an area with a very large elderly population, we always need more people willing and able to visit those parishioners who cannot get out to come to Mass. That’s what I love to do, and I’m absolutely awed to have been given this privilege.

I recommend you discuss with your pastor and whoever coordinates your EMHCs about switching to going to the shut-ins.

May God give you wisdom and discernment!
 
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LauraL:
First of all, you should only be a Eucharistic minister if God gives you a vocation to the priesthood! 😉
Hey what a minute Deacons are Ordinary Ministers of the Eucharist too. 😃

God Bless
 
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OhioBob:
I think 40 EMHC’s would definately fall into the extreme category, although I have seen some churches where the design almost demanded a herd of EMHCs (asymetrical aisles, pews in the round) etc. Some of these church architects should stick to designing airplane hangers.
Our parish is built like a baseball stadium with an upper and a lower level with the seating done in sections. It’s not quite in the round, but more like a half round shape. We also have two cup ministers for every bread minister to prevent traffic jams. We actually only use 32-26 EMHC’s at regular masses, but will use at least 40 on those special days when the part timers tend to come to mass. On Easter, we have an indoor mass, an outdoor mass, and an overflow mass at the high school accross the street, so we would have 120 EMHC’s signed up for each time slot. I remember my first time at mass in this parish. I was amazed when I saw the credence table with all the cups on it.
 
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RichT:
Our parish is built like a baseball stadium with an upper and a lower level with the seating done in sections. It’s not quite in the round, but more like a half round shape. We also have two cup ministers for every bread minister to prevent traffic jams. We actually only use 32-26 EMHC’s at regular masses, but will use at least 40 on those special days when the part timers tend to come to mass. On Easter, we have an indoor mass, an outdoor mass, and an overflow mass at the high school accross the street, so we would have 120 EMHC’s signed up for each time slot. I remember my first time at mass in this parish. I was amazed when I saw the credence table with all the cups on it.
It sounds like it would be difficult in that sort of environment to avoid using so many EMHC’s. The design seems to require them if the Eucharistic celebration is going to have any order to it.

You didn’t mention whether or not you liked this “unique” design. I’ve never heard of a church quite like it.

My tastes run toward a more traditional church design. But to each his own. 😉
 
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OhioBob:
It sounds like a difficult environment in which to avoid using so many EMHC’s. You didn’t mention whether or not you liked this “unique” design. I’ve never heard of a church quite like it.

My tastes run toward a more traditional church design. But to each his own. 😉
Our parish although built to be very modern is really quite beautiful once you’ve take the time to look around and learn about the environment. I do appreciate the beauty of a traditional cathedral, or basilica style church. My wife and I were married in and attended mass for several years at a parish built in the basilica style in 1914. It was beautiful and we do miss it, but after moving out of state, I found myself really appreciating our new parish, but only after having a tour and understanding the symbolism of the art work, statues, and other things. It really is quite functional, except for the need for 40 EMHC’s.
 
There comes a time when too many Extraordinary Eucharistic Ministers are too many. There are also times when peoples opinions are that there are too many; but that is their opinion, often based on personal preferences rather than any fact.

If your pastor asks you to be one, please consider it. If you have a parish which distributes Communion under both Species, and there are not a multiplicity of priests and deacons, or there is still a need for EEMs, by all means, do it. It is a blessing.
 
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cnelms:
I volunteered to be a Extraordinary Minister of Communion (commonly: Eucharistic Minister) some time ago due to a shortage at a particular mass. We have a parish of ~2200 families with four masses on Sunday morning. We normally have the celebrant, one of the other priests, and a permanent Deacon assisting. Besides these men there will be nine Extraordinary Ministers required at each mass. This is with 30 minutes between each mass start time. The church seats ~750 people.

I feel this is an acceptable use of Extraordinary Ministers. I trust the pastor to determine when we are used and to what extent. I feel it is a great honor to help with mass in this manner and I take it very seriously.

Peace -
Have you considered that your parish is creating a need where none exists by scheduling the Masses too close together?

I hope I never see another EMHC in my entire life. I’ve seen so many abuses on the part of EMs that the very sight of one makes my blood boil – breaking the hosts for distribution to the faithful, pouring the Precious Blood, reaching into the Tabernacle with their unconsecrated hands, blessing people who should not be in the Communion line, wearing shorts, see-through blouses, halter tops on the altar, and in general acting like priests. And these are only the highlights.

Sorry, it’s not personal to you, but that has been my experience.
I now attend an indult Tridentine Latin Mass where only the priest(s) give Communion. And there are no EMs swarming all over the sanctuary and altar! Deo Gratias!
 
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baltobetsy:
My personal opinion - if you think there is not a need in your parish, then you shouldn’t do it, and let your pastor know why.

Betsy
I agree.
 
From Rome, August 1997:

Instruction
On Certain Questions Regarding
The Collaboration of the Non Ordained
Faithful in the Sacred Ministry of the Priest


Article 8
To avoid creating confusion, certain practices are to be avoided and eliminated where such have emerged in particular Churches:
— extraordinary ministers receiving Holy Communion apart from the other faithful as though concelebrants;

— association with the renewal of promises made by priests at the Chrism Mass on Holy Thursday, as well as other categories of faithful who renew religious vows or receive a mandate as extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion;

— the habitual use of extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion at Mass thus arbitrarily extending the concept of “a great number of the faithful”.
This document is approximately 23 printed pages and can be found at the Vatican website. Or here
cin.org/vatcong/collmin.html

I urge those seeking, as well as those giving advice, to read it in its entirety.

Continued…
 
Rome

March 2004

Redemptionis Sacramentum

**On Certain Matters to be observed or Avoided **Regarding the Most Holy Eucharist

Chapter VII

151
Only out of true necessity is there to be recourse to the assistance of extraordinary ministers in the celebration of the Liturgy. Such recourse is not intended for the sake of a fuller participation of the laity but rather, by its very nature, is supplementary and provisional. Furthermore, when recourse is had out of necessity to the functions of extraordinary ministers, special urgent prayers of intercession should be multiplied that the Lord may soon send a Priest for the service of the community and raise up an abundance of vocations to sacred Orders.

**156 **This function is to be understood strictly according to the name by which it is known, that is to say, that of extraordinary minister of Holy Communion, and not “special minister of Holy Communion” nor “extraordinary minister of the Eucharist” nor “special minister of the Eucharist”, by which names the meaning of this function is unnecessarily and improperly broadened.

157 If there is usually present a sufficient number of sacred ministers for the distribution of Holy Communion, extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion may not be appointed. Indeed, in such circumstances, those who may have already been appointed to this ministry should not exercise it. The practice of those Priests is reprobated who, even though present at the celebration, abstain from distributing Communion and hand this function over to laypersons.

158 Indeed, the extraordinary minister of Holy Communion may administer Communion only when the Priest and Deacon are lacking, when the Priest is prevented by weakness or advanced age or some other genuine reason, or when the number of faithful coming to Communion is so great that the very celebration of Mass would be unduly prolonged. This, however, is to be understood in such a way that a brief prolongation, considering the circumstances and culture of the place, is not at all a sufficient reason.
 
Having provided in the limited space allowed for posts what Vatican guidelines I could, I’d now like to throw in my own :twocents:

If someone can’t even get the terms right, I wouldn’t take their advice.

Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion (EMHC) are not Eucharistic Ministers (EM), Extraordinary Eucharistic Ministers (EEM), or Cup Ministers and Bread Ministers, (Lord, no!) all of which have been posted on this thread.

It’s your Faith, get it right!

Am I nitpicking? Was the Vatican nitpicking when they pointed it out? I don’t think so. If it’s important to Rome, it’s important to me, and should be to the rest of us.

I am just two steps behind Katholikos. We have no TLM here, but I’d be attending in a heartbeat if I could.

Our EMCH approach the sanctuary during the Agnus Dei, surround the altar before the priest consumes the Host, give blessings to non-communicants, purify and repose the Sacred Vessels in the tabernacle.

Each little abuse grows into another and yet another, until the entire Communion rite begins to look more like a travesty than a Sacred Liturgical function.

When the EMHC begin to approach the altar, I can feel my heart sink *here we go again. *I fix my eyes upon the Eucharist, but wait, it’s been dropped back into the ciborium so EMHC can give a blessing. Heart sinks deeper. Write to the pastor, get no response. Abuses go on, heart sinks deeper.

I find myself receiving Holy Communion in a spirit of reparation for all the irreverence His Body and Blood continues to endure. And yes, sometimes, it makes me a bit angry. Justifiably so, I do think.

Pax Christi. <><
 
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LauraL:
But I was commissioned as an Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion (and, yes, I’m fighting to get the terminology cleaned up in my parish, too) this Easter, and I serve ONLY by carrying Communion to the homebound. Soon I hope to be able to start at the hospital and nursing homes, too.
First, I think that we all have a responsibility now to use the correct term when referring to this ministry.

As Redemptionis Sacramentum now points out clearly to us, “Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion” is the only acceptable term for this. I think they stress this because of what the word “Extraordinary” implies - that it is not a ordinary ministry.

The other thing, and I’m wondering it this is a Chicago specific policy or if it is more broad than that, is that in the Archdiocese of Chicago, the two ministries, EMHC and taking communion to the sick/homebound are seen as TWO distinct ministries with two distinct mandates.

FYI - In this document from 1994 (very pre-RS), they use the term “auxiliary” in place of “extraordinary”.
In the Archdiocese of Chicago the ministries of auxiliary ministers of communion at Mass and auxiliary ministers of communion to the sick are regarded as two distinct ministries. Each ministry presumes a distinct formation and mandate. However, an individual may be mandated for both ministries.
 
Panis Angelicas:
To avoid creating confusion, certain practices are to be avoided and eliminated where such have emerged in particular Churches:
— extraordinary ministers receiving Holy Communion apart from the other faithful as though concelebrants;
Question - How is a EMHC to react/respond to a priest who distributes the Eucharist to the EMHC before he himself consumes the host?

In my parish, the parish priests consume the host prior to distributing to the EMHC, but a regular guest priest does not. Is it acceptable to not take communion at that time, and receive later? Or would this be another disruption upon disruption?
 
Hey, I found a couple more pennies in my pocket!

When people are encouraging you to become an EMHC, or to remain one, are their reasons inline with the Vatican’s statements?

Only out of true necessity is there to be recourse to the assistance of extraordinary ministers in the celebration of the Liturgy. Such recourse is not intended for the sake of a fuller participation of the laity

Some people seem to indicate that “serving” up front brings you to a higher level of participation. This is not a valid reason.

It seems there is only one good and valid reason for EMHC: true necessity.

when recourse is had out of necessity to the functions of extraordinary ministers, special urgent prayers of intercession should be multiplied that the Lord may soon send a Priest for the service of the community and raise up an abundance of vocations to sacred Orders.

It should be easy to know if there is true necessity, because your parish priest, at every Mass would be leading in* special urgent prayers that the Lord may soon send a Priest for the service of your community* and increase vocations.

If he is not doing that, then he should not be asking laypeople to assist. imho, in light of Redemptionis Sacramentum.

Everywhere EMHC are used, you should be hearing an urgent plea to the heavens for more Ordinary Ministers.
 
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sma:
If I know my parish is abusing the use of Eucharistic ministers, should I even continue being one? They don’t really seem to be needed at Mass.
Perhaps one good reason FOR more EMHC overall, not at one particular Mass, is that it spreads the ministry out among more people, so one EMHC or a group of EMHC does not become a Regular/Everyday EMHC. I would seem that the rarer use of a particular EMHC the better. Having the individual do this ministry once in a blue moon is probably better than every other week, no matter how many EMHC the particular parish uses.

On the other hand, a reason AGAINST more EMHC is propigating and supporting existing abuse. By saying yes to being one, you are in a sense agreeing with the parishes use of EMHC. Although you can probably say yes with restrictions. Like not being a regularly scheduled one.

Either way, I think your question can be answered either way, depending on your specific parish and situation and the “abuse” that is going on.

I would also ask myself, what action of mine can better help lead to a correct use of EMHC? That may be not continuing, but it may also be continuing, and being an influence toward the good.

God Bless!
 
I’m one and I never regretted it. It is really a blessing to me to take communion to the sick and shutins. Also, our priest only has two hands, so it would really be hard for him to distribute the Body and Blood at the same time, hence the need for at least two distributers at each Mass. We only have one priest and one deacon to serve two parishes. When the deacon assists at Mass, we only use one distributer. I would say if you think you are REALLY needed. go for it. God bless.
 
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