Should I be leaving mass after the homily?

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I have been reading the How to book of the Mass by Michael Dubruiel and I have been wondering if it is wrong for me to stay for the entire mass. I was baptized Catholic as an infant and my parents stopped bringing me to church when I was about 5. I have not received any of the other sacraments and am now returning to the church, although I cannot really do anything right now because my husband is a confirmed Catholic (lapsed) and we were not married in the Church. He refuses to consider marrying in the church at this time. Since I am not a Catechumen, and am not in formation to fully enter the church at this time, is it ok for me to stay for the entire mass, or should I be leaving.
 
Welcome to the forums. Stay for the whole Mass, just don’t receive communion.
 
question_asker1 said:
I have been reading the How to book of the Mass by Michael Dubruiel and I have been wondering if it is wrong for me to stay for the entire mass. I was baptized Catholic as an infant and my parents stopped bringing me to church when I was about 5. I have not received any of the other sacraments and am now returning to the church, although I cannot really do anything right now because my husband is a confirmed Catholic (lapsed) and we were not married in the Church. He refuses to consider marrying in the church at this time. Since I am not a Catechumen, and am not in formation to fully enter the church at this time, is it ok for me to stay for the entire mass, or should I be leaving.
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Yes, you should stay for the entire Mass.

Also talk to your priest about the possibility of Radical Sanation of your marriage if the only defect is form. This may be a possibility.
 
Welcome Home and please stay for the entire Mass.

Call your parish RCIA instructor and ask for more details. Or perhaps, someone here will be able to answer your questions about your reluctant husband and your marriage.
 
When I saw the heading, I thought this was going to be a post about an awful homily. 😃
 
question_asker1 said:
I have been reading the How to book of the Mass by Michael Dubruiel and I have been wondering if it is wrong for me to stay for the entire mass. I was baptized Catholic as an infant and my parents stopped bringing me to church when I was about 5. I have not received any of the other sacraments and am now returning to the church, although I cannot really do anything right now because my husband is a confirmed Catholic (lapsed) and we were not married in the Church. He refuses to consider marrying in the church at this time. Since I am not a Catechumen, and am not in formation to fully enter the church at this time, is it ok for me to stay for the entire mass, or should I be leaving.
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[edited] If you have questions about what is, or isn’t acceptable… get some face time with your priest and explain the situation. [edited]
 
question_asker1 said:
I have been reading the How to book of the Mass by Michael Dubruiel and I have been wondering if it is wrong for me to stay for the entire mass. I was baptized Catholic as an infant and my parents stopped bringing me to church when I was about 5. I have not received any of the other sacraments and am now returning to the church, although I cannot really do anything right now because my husband is a confirmed Catholic (lapsed) and we were not married in the Church. He refuses to consider marrying in the church at this time. Since I am not a Catechumen, and am not in formation to fully enter the church at this time, is it ok for me to stay for the entire mass, or should I be leaving.
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Even if it were the custom to ask the Catechumens to leave after the homily, you are a baptized person, so you would still stay for the whole Mass, even in that case.

You should get an appointment to speak to your priest and explain your situation to him. He will probably have some good ideas about how to get started with sorting things out with you.
 
How to book of the Mass by Michael Dubruiel

I wonder if his book has anything to do with the mass exodus (Mass exodus) I see in our Church after the Eucharist.
 
Barbkw said:
How to book of the Mass by Michael Dubruiel

I wonder if his book has anything to do with the mass exodus (Mass exodus) I see in our Church after the Eucharist.
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Why? Does he recommend that people do that? I haven’t read the book; I have no idea. Any priests I’ve talked to have all said that they want people to wait until after the Recessional hymn before they come out of the Church.

I’d be happy if I didn’t see people chewing gum at Mass. When did that become acceptable? :rolleyes:
 
I don’t know either. I don’t quite understand why Michael Dubruiel suggests leaving after the homily in his book.

I’m an RCIA sponsor and there are days throughout the training that the class will attend half a Mass. I thought it was just to get protestant denomination converts a little familiar with the flow of the Mass and the Creed.
 
Barbkw said:
I don’t know either. I don’t quite understand why Michael Dubruiel suggests leaving after the homily in his book.

I’m an RCIA sponsor and there are days throughout the training that the class will attend half a Mass. I thought it was just to get protestant denomination converts a little familiar with the flow of the Mass and the Creed.
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When I went through RCIA, we had “dismissal” nearly every Sunday.
 
question_asker1 said:
I have been reading the How to book of the Mass by Michael Dubruiel and I have been wondering if it is wrong for me to stay for the entire mass. I was baptized Catholic as an infant and my parents stopped bringing me to church when I was about 5. I have not received any of the other sacraments and am now returning to the church, although I cannot really do anything right now because my husband is a confirmed Catholic (lapsed) and we were not married in the Church. He refuses to consider marrying in the church at this time. Since I am not a Catechumen, and am not in formation to fully enter the church at this time, is it ok for me to stay for the entire mass, or should I be leaving.
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FYI radical sanation is addressed in this article.

I like How to book of the Mass by Michael Dubruiel. Michael died quite unexpectedly 2/3/09. Eternal memory. The proceeds for this book and other works of his help his five children and his widow, Amy Welborn. His widow Amy Welborn remains a prolific writer.

Do talk with your priest. It isn’t unusual to have people come to Inquiry and RCIA whose marriages are not currently valid in the eyes of the Church. Your pastor might suggest you consider attending the sessions. Should you move toward receiving your confirmation and first Eucharist you would probably do so in the annual classes for that preparation of adult Catholics who didn’t receive those sacraments as children.

I’m sorry about your husband’s estrangement from the Church. There are many hurting Catholics out there, sadly. My unworthy prayers for you both.
 
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When I went through RCIA, we had “dismissal” nearly every Sunday.
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As** jmcrae** has indicated, the dismissal is for Catechumens, not for Christians, ie those who have been validly baptized. Some Christians preparing for reception into full communion in the Church may choose to leave with the Catechumens for any catechesis and since they cannot receive Holy Eucharist.

(In the Divine Liturgy the Liturgy of the Faithful (the Liturgy of the Eucharist) begins with the deacon chanting “All catechumens, depart. Depart, catechumens. All that are catechumens, depart. Let no catechumen remain. Let us, the faithful, again and again in peace, pray unto the Lord.” And then before the recitation of the Creed the Deacon chants "The doors! The doors! " from a time when " the doorkeepers [watched] carefully at the doors of the church, that none of the catechumens or unbelievers enter. " Before receiving Eucharist among our prayers we all say: “Of Thy Mystical Supper, O Son of God, accept me today as a communicant;* for I will not speak of Thy Mystery to Thine enemies*, neither like Judas will I give Thee a kiss; but like the thief will I confess Thee; Remember me, O Lord, in Thy Kingdom.” Witnessing the Holy Mystery (Sacrament) of Holy Eucharist was only for the members of the Church. This is still true some places.)
 
5Loaves said:
As** jmcrae** has indicated, the dismissal is for Catechumens, not for Christians, ie those who have been validly baptized. Some Christians preparing for reception into full communion in the Church may choose to leave with the Catechumens for any catechesis and since they cannot receive Holy Eucharist.

(In the Divine Liturgy the Liturgy of the Faithful (the Liturgy of the Eucharist) begins with the deacon chanting “All catechumens, depart. Depart, catechumens. All that are catechumens, depart. Let no catechumen remain. Let us, the faithful, again and again in peace, pray unto the Lord.” And then before the recitation of the Creed the Deacon chants "The doors! The doors! " from a time when " the doorkeepers [watched] carefully at the doors of the church, that none of the catechumens or unbelievers enter. " Before receiving Eucharist among our prayers we all say: “Of Thy Mystical Supper, O Son of God, accept me today as a communicant;* for I will not speak of Thy Mystery to Thine enemies*, neither like Judas will I give Thee a kiss; but like the thief will I confess Thee; Remember me, O Lord, in Thy Kingdom.” Witnessing the Holy Mystery (Sacrament) of Holy Eucharist was only for the members of the Church. This is still true some places.)
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All well and good, but like many things, it seems, local practice varies. I was a candidate, but was dismissed with the catechumens. We all went as one big gorup. Maybe more efficient that way. It was not presented that this was a matter of choice.
 
JHow said:
All well and good, but like many things, it seems, local practice varies. I was a candidate, but was dismissed with the catechumens. We all went as one big group. Maybe more efficient that way. It was not presented that this was a matter of choice.
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You’re right. Although it shouldn’t happen, the reality is that not every parish does this part correctly.
 
JHow said:
All well and good, but like many things, it seems, local practice varies. I was a candidate, but was dismissed with the catechumens. We all went as one big gorup. Maybe more efficient that way. It was not presented that this was a matter of choice.
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Probably due to either the RCIA team members not being properly trained, or there not being enough resources at the parish to allow for the Candidates to join with the group after Mass, and have a catechetical session with the whole group then.

Did you get any catechesis at all, or was it all Breaking the Word for Catechumens? (Or did they skip Breaking the Word and do Catechesis in its place?)
 
I am in RCIA right now, and every Sunday after the homily we all (catechumens and candidates) leave for Breaking Open the Word. However, some of the people in my class suggested to the RCIA directors that maybe once in a while we could stay for the whole mass because, as they put it, we need to become somewhat familiar with what happens after the homily. We have never sat through an entire mass, unless of course we went to one on our own. I hope they decide we can sit through one maybe once a month or something.
 
jmcrae said:
Probably due to either the RCIA team members not being properly trained, or there not being enough resources at the parish to allow for the Candidates to join with the group after Mass, and have a catechetical session with the whole group then.

Did you get any catechesis at all, or was it all Breaking the Word for Catechumens? (Or did they skip Breaking the Word and do Catechesis in its place?)
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Ah. It was 12 years ago. I don’t recall the materials used.
 
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