Should I teach this CRE class?

[CarolAnnLyon]

Blessings to all!

I have been asked to teach a CRE class for 11th and 12th graders. I feel drawn to do this, but have some concerns. After sitting in on the first class, I got into a discussion with the Religious Education Coordinator about youth bibles. During the conversation, she made a comment about the first books of the Bible now being considered as “legends and myths” up until the introduction of Abraham. I was taken aback, and when I stated my surprise at hearing this, this person said “Oh yes, it’s believed now that there was no ‘one Adam’ or ‘one Eve’, and these first books of the Bible are just stories written to work through early history until Abraham appears.” I asked then “But aren’t all books of the Bible considered to be inspired writing?” The answer was “Inspired, yes, but…not necessarily what really happened.” I didn’t pursue the conversation any further. As I said, I feel strongly drawn to do this, but I’m not sure how I feel about the Coordinator having this belief.

Or have I missed something??? Has anyone else heard this opinion? Is there really something to it? If this has come from the Magisteriam, I have never heard of it before now. I would be most grateful to anyone who can give me some insight on this.
Thanks so much.

Carol

“Come, Holy Spirit”

 

[Birdysboy]

I have heard an apologist on EWTN radio refer to the Catechism on this, the exact number escapes me, but it is something along the line of Adam and Eve’s actual sin was real, so everything else is real. I have not done my homework on it so maybe it will help you get started.

As far as teaching, if you didn’t have some concerns then I would be concerned. Teaching is an awesome calling. Start on your knees. Teaching this age group about forgiveness and saying I’m sorry Lord would be a weighty task. May God bless you.

 

[NotWorthy]

It sounds like the 11-12th graders NEED someone like you, rather than this person that calls themself the religious educator.

The church is ADAMANT that there was an Adam and Eve and that EVERYONE descended from them. Original sin would be hard to explain if this wasn’t the case.

Good Luck!!!

 

[NotWorthy]

Incidentally, you may want to pass this on to your DRE:

WHAT CATHOLICS MUST BELIEVE ABOUT CREATION

1. The creation by God of all things at the beginning of time

2.  The special creation by God of man

3.  The formation of woman from man

4.  The unity of the human race

5.  The original happiness of our first parents in a state of justice

6.  The divine command laid upon  man by God to prove obedience

7.  The transgression of that command at the instigation of the devil in the form of a serpent

8.  The fall of our original parents from their primitive state of innocence.

9. The promise of a future redeemer

 

[Michael_G]

Blessings to all!

. During the conversation, she made a comment about the first books of the Bible now being considered as “legends and myths” up until the introduction of Abraham. I was taken aback, and when I stated my surprise at hearing this, this person said “Oh yes, it’s believed now that there was no ‘one Adam’ or ‘one Eve’, and these first books of the Bible are just stories .”
Carol

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I would ask her a few questions such as where did she learn this, can she point to any official documentation of what she is stating here. If what she says is true, than that would mean, Jesus, Peter and Paul had no idea of what they were talking about. There are those out there who would attempt to say that Noahs flood was not a world wide flood but was a local flood. But than Jesus and Peter were saying things in direct contradiction to these folks who make Noahs flood into a local event. If it were a local event no reason for Noah to build the Ark, all he needed to do was move—!

No Adam and Eve no original sin then no necessity for Redemption.

Catechism

402All men are implicated in Adam’s sin, as St. Paul affirms: “By one man’s disobedience all men were made sinners”: "sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all men sinned."289 ."290

403Following St. Paul, the Church has always taught that the overwhelming misery which oppresses men and their inclination towards evil and death cannot be understood apart from their connection with Adam’s sin and the fact that he has transmitted to us a sin with which we are all born afflicted, a sin which is the “death of the soul”

404How did the sin of Adam become the sin of all his descendants? The whole human race is in Adam “as one body of one man”.293 By this “unity of the human race” all men are implicated in Adam’s sin, as all are implicated in Christ’s justice. . By yielding to the tempter, Adam and Eve committed a personal sin, but this sin affected the human nature that they would then transmit in a fallen state.294

Christ Taught the Inerant Word of God—JesusBible

Mat19:4-5 & Luke 11:50-51 Jesus taught that God made man and woman at the beginning.

Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

1 Pet3:God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

2Pet 2:world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

John 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

Adam
Bible clearly says that sin came by one man, Adam, and death is the result of sin. (Rom 5:12-21, 1Cor 15:26, Gen 3:17-18, & Rom 8:19-22 God said the creation was very good. Do you think death and disease are very good? 1 Cor 15:26 says the last enemy to be destroyed is death. Therefore, death was an enemy and there could be no death before sin.

Rom 5: 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

1Cor15: 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. … 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam-(Christ) was made a quickening spirit.

1 Timothy2: 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

 

[jmcrae]

Blessings to all!

I have been asked to teach a CRE class for 11th and 12th graders. I feel drawn to do this, but have some concerns. After sitting in on the first class, I got into a discussion with the Religious Education Coordinator about youth bibles. During the conversation, she made a comment about the first books of the Bible now being considered as “legends and myths” up until the introduction of Abraham.

That’s kind of a weird statement right there, since Abraham already appears about a third of the way through Genesis. What other “books” does she think came before Genesis?

I was taken aback, and when I stated my surprise at hearing this, this person said “Oh yes, it’s believed now that there was no ‘one Adam’ or ‘one Eve’, and these first books of the Bible are just stories written to work through early history until Abraham appears.” I asked then “But aren’t all books of the Bible considered to be inspired writing?” The answer was “Inspired, yes, but…not necessarily what really happened.” I didn’t pursue the conversation any further. As I said, I feel strongly drawn to do this, but I’m not sure how I feel about the Coordinator having this belief.

Go ahead and teach the class according to the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Our DRE has some odd ideas on certain things, too, but it’s me in the classroom; not her.