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Sir_Knight
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I end my confession with something similar … " … for these and for all of my sins as they stand in the eyes of God, I ask for penance and absolution …"
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turboEDvo
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There doesn’t seem to be full consent. W/O that, it’s not a mortal sin. If it’s not a mortal sin, you can receive Communion, and it will be forgiven.
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4_marks
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Sir Knight:
As for the bearing of the issue raised above on this, it does have tremendous impact. If the Catholic Church is willing to give a public pass to those who commit such outrageous and scandalous sins, and, instead, selects to focus upon things like Insisting that one go to Mass or it is a mortal sin, or Insisting that one abstain from meat on Fridays during Lent or its a mortal sin, and so on, then the leaders are either cowards or hypocrites, or worse…both!
It is we, an educated and active laity, that must interpret and decide what is the best course of action. We can’t rely on the old “Father said this, or Sister says that, or the Pope made this statement…” The recent sexual crisis proves that to be oh so true.
We are the Voice of the Faithful. The American Roman Catholic Church. We are no longer farmers, millwrights, blacksmiths, seamstresses. We are doctors, lawyers, engineers, educators. We are the wave of the future…the spirit of a renewed and revived post conciliar American Church.
The State of Emergency was in effect for Sunday. However, I could have legally gone to Mass on Saturday evening. The roads were treacherous and I chose not to. If I had the flu or a bad cold, I also refrain from going to Mass. I wouldn’t go to work with such and spread it to others. The pattern in my life, however, is more important than the particulars. The pattern is, and has been, regular Mass attendance and participation.
As for the bearing of the issue raised above on this, it does have tremendous impact. If the Catholic Church is willing to give a public pass to those who commit such outrageous and scandalous sins, and, instead, selects to focus upon things like Insisting that one go to Mass or it is a mortal sin, or Insisting that one abstain from meat on Fridays during Lent or its a mortal sin, and so on, then the leaders are either cowards or hypocrites, or worse…both!
It is we, an educated and active laity, that must interpret and decide what is the best course of action. We can’t rely on the old “Father said this, or Sister says that, or the Pope made this statement…” The recent sexual crisis proves that to be oh so true.
We are the Voice of the Faithful. The American Roman Catholic Church. We are no longer farmers, millwrights, blacksmiths, seamstresses. We are doctors, lawyers, engineers, educators. We are the wave of the future…the spirit of a renewed and revived post conciliar American Church.
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Pug
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But what if it would be wrong for them to go out and risk their life for the millions? If so, just because they are stupid enough to go out and risk their life for money does not in turn make it a mortal sin to do the right thing and not go to mass. Their sin would lie in going out in search of the money, not in “failing” to attend mass.
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mgy100
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I went to church sunday. Fought horrible roads up a mountainside. Just kept it slow. I’m young and can drive. But there were only like 10-15 people at church, and we only got 10 inches of snow and the roads were plowed down to an inch or so and had lots of anti skid… this translates into keeping it under 45 and slowing way down for mountains curves.
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epower
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I also chose not to go to Mass on Sunday. The night before, I did some work for a client who lived a block away from me. Church is 5-6 blocks from my house. When I woke up at 7:00 in the morning, the wind was howling, it was cold, and there was at least 12 inches of snow on the ground. I live in NYC, but none of the streets had been plowed yet.
Later in the day, I could have gone to mass but I chose not to because I had slipped and fallen down my front steps earlier in the day.
In most blizzards, I do attend mass. But this one was really bad. One time, the priest said in his homily that he was impressed by the number of people at the mass. He stated that during a blizzard, the attendance to mass is not an obligation. He stated that missing mass during a blizzard was not a mortal sin.
There is a traveler’s dispensation which I believe applies here. If a Catholic is traveling in an out of town area, and church services are too far away, or if the person is not familiar with the area, they are not required to attend. I do believe that severe weather conditions also fall under this dispensation.
Later in the day, I could have gone to mass but I chose not to because I had slipped and fallen down my front steps earlier in the day.
In most blizzards, I do attend mass. But this one was really bad. One time, the priest said in his homily that he was impressed by the number of people at the mass. He stated that during a blizzard, the attendance to mass is not an obligation. He stated that missing mass during a blizzard was not a mortal sin.
There is a traveler’s dispensation which I believe applies here. If a Catholic is traveling in an out of town area, and church services are too far away, or if the person is not familiar with the area, they are not required to attend. I do believe that severe weather conditions also fall under this dispensation.
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Sir_Knight
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Severe weather conditions in relationship to a person’s individual circumstances determine whether or not missing mass is a mortal sin or not.
I don’t think the priest should be making blanket statements that “missing mass during a blizzard was not a mortal sin” because, again, it depends on the** circumstances of the individual**.
Take for example that I have a 4x4 vehicle and live only half a mile from the church. Chances are that I could drive there safely during blizzard conditions without exposing myself to excessive danger and missing mass, even though it was during a blizzard, would be a mortal sin.
Take another example. Let’s assume that the blizzard is over and the streets have been plowed but my car will not start and I just had an operation on my leg which makes it difficult for me to maintain my balance especially on slippery or uneven surfaces.
Even though the church might only be half a mile away, I would be excused from going to Mass because of those PERSONAL circumstances.
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Tim_Faremouth
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On one occaision, I remember a priest giving me absolution for all previous sins I had committed on the premise I had made a good confession at the time … so, I think forgotten sins are covered if you had made a good confession. Although this could be incorrect … if so, someone pls correct me. Thanks.
Peace be with you
Peace be with you
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rwoehmke
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Veronica Anne:
The minimum requirement is to confess all MORTAL SINS that we remember/recall since last confession. Forgotten mortal sin should be confessed next time, but it is already forgiven.
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Tiffse
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I know missionaries from the US who live in other countries where there are no catholic churches or priests or Sunday Mass. There are tribes in the Serengeti where missionaries have introduced Christianity, but there are no catholic churches or priests or Sunday Mass. The early Christians met in eachother’s homes for a meal on Saturday evening to discuss Christ; there were no catholic churches or Sunday Mass (although you may be able to make the argument that there were priests in the first churches. Maybe Paul “ordained” some of the deacons and elders he talks about from Antioch, Corinth, Thessalonica, etc).
The point is that there are so many circumstances that would lead to not attending Mass, it’s not possible that it is a mortal sin.
The point is that there are so many circumstances that would lead to not attending Mass, it’s not possible that it is a mortal sin.
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