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stpurl
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It is also as toxic, or worse, to tear down the EF, and those who like it, to give ‘superiority’ to the OF. And while most of the comments tend to be balanced and reasonable to start with, there has been far more of a push, again especially in the last 5 or so years, where those ‘Toxic’ people on the fringe who have torn down the OF have by and large remained the same, numbers wise, and the same comments wise, while the number of people who have made disparaging ranging to insulting comments of the EF and the people who even dare to say that, while they attend the OF, approve of the OF, like the OF, they would like to see the EF, or think it would be good to have more places offer it (not in place of the OF, but in addition to) have steadily and rapidly increased.
Honestly, that’s what surprises me the most, that when some individual comes on saying that they would like to go to an EF or have it more widely available, that people don’t just say, “Yes, that’s nice” or "Oh, OK’.
Because let’s face it. When there is a perfectly neutral statement like that, the logical, normal response would be either, “Yeah, me too”, or “Well, not my style but whatever”; either an agreement or a neutral return response.
I simply can’t understand why so often a neutral response is met with a judgmental and ‘offensive’ (meaning, ‘on the attack’, not ‘repugnant’), “You would? How come? Isn’t the OF good enough for you?” or "the LATIN Mass, why would any normal person want something they don’t understand? Something old? Something that was replaced with something better? Something Pope Francis is condemning? " Etc.
Again, I know that people tend to respond to what they ‘think’ is said more than what is actually said, but I also think, on these forums especially, it has been brought up enough, and by responsible, reputable people (not just by ‘firebrands’ like me) that there has been a overly condemnatory tone to people even saying, "I’d like to go to a Latin Mass’, nothing more, nothing less. . . and you know, you would never hear people saying that if somebody said, “I’m interested in French culture, and I’d love to go to a French Mass” or, “I’m not a teen, but the only Mass I can get to is Lifeteen, and I’ve enjoyed it”, or “The Church nearest to me has OK music but the one 10 miles away has praise and worship and I would really like to go to that”, the kind of remarks you hear for "Latin Mass’. You wouldn’t hear, “Why would you want to hear Mass in FRENCH if you don’t speak it yourself?” or “Why go to a Mass geared for teens if you aren’t one” or “you should go to the Mass closest to you, the music isn’t important”, and if you DID, there’d be a quick response from other posters to “ignore the rigid person, you should have a choice to attend a Mass you like”.
WHY then is the Latin Mass somehow the One Mass that people ‘shouldn’t like?’
Honestly, that’s what surprises me the most, that when some individual comes on saying that they would like to go to an EF or have it more widely available, that people don’t just say, “Yes, that’s nice” or "Oh, OK’.
Because let’s face it. When there is a perfectly neutral statement like that, the logical, normal response would be either, “Yeah, me too”, or “Well, not my style but whatever”; either an agreement or a neutral return response.
I simply can’t understand why so often a neutral response is met with a judgmental and ‘offensive’ (meaning, ‘on the attack’, not ‘repugnant’), “You would? How come? Isn’t the OF good enough for you?” or "the LATIN Mass, why would any normal person want something they don’t understand? Something old? Something that was replaced with something better? Something Pope Francis is condemning? " Etc.
Again, I know that people tend to respond to what they ‘think’ is said more than what is actually said, but I also think, on these forums especially, it has been brought up enough, and by responsible, reputable people (not just by ‘firebrands’ like me) that there has been a overly condemnatory tone to people even saying, "I’d like to go to a Latin Mass’, nothing more, nothing less. . . and you know, you would never hear people saying that if somebody said, “I’m interested in French culture, and I’d love to go to a French Mass” or, “I’m not a teen, but the only Mass I can get to is Lifeteen, and I’ve enjoyed it”, or “The Church nearest to me has OK music but the one 10 miles away has praise and worship and I would really like to go to that”, the kind of remarks you hear for "Latin Mass’. You wouldn’t hear, “Why would you want to hear Mass in FRENCH if you don’t speak it yourself?” or “Why go to a Mass geared for teens if you aren’t one” or “you should go to the Mass closest to you, the music isn’t important”, and if you DID, there’d be a quick response from other posters to “ignore the rigid person, you should have a choice to attend a Mass you like”.
WHY then is the Latin Mass somehow the One Mass that people ‘shouldn’t like?’
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