Should salaries be capped?

[Stolen_Rutters]

Hammers? Nah, all the same, so I go to the cheapest place.

Sticker point:
I bought a hammer at walmart after I got a house 5 years ago. I was doing home renovation, so I got the most expensive one they sold… the cheaper ones looked flimsy (the first time I ever noticed a hammer actually look cheap). The one I got broke after ONE DAY of use. wal-mart hammers are good for putting up picture frames, not for framing walls.

I went to the local hardware store, and bought a standard construction hammer, for less than what the “GOOD” one cost at wal-mart. I still have it and use it, 5 years later.

Wal-Mart is not my store. I want my hammers to survive the first time I use it. I want my clothes to last more than three months before I have to stitch/repair. (I’m an engineer, so threadbare clothes are a no-no.)

They are real efficient at giving me what I don’t want for real cheap. I looked that gift horsey in the mouth, and I’ll let you have it, free! You get what you pay for.

Well, this looks too much like a wal-mart slam, so I’ll talk on a positive. At least at walmart you get what you pay for, and none of that service or support that makes the other places cost more. They do have cheap pretzels in the cafe, and they don’t charge for the mustard packets!

Michigan has a liberal government? Ha! The governor can’t get her spending priorities through the republican senate. Try and live here for a year on handouts and see where you get.

(Here you get $21 per week for food stamps if you qualify. Our state has no interest in going above and beyond federal requirements. The Detroit school system doesn’t get pencils and papers for their children every year like they do down south. You bring your own writing materials. If you were lucky, the teacher paid for it out of her own salary. Liberal!)

 

[LCMS_No_More]

An example of a efficiently run govt agency would be what? Lemme guess, the Dept of Health, Education and Welfare!! :whacky: Now don’t it make ya feel good they are looking out for ya!? No, wait a minute, The office of Vital Statistics!! Now there’s a bunch of go getters, ever try to get copy of Birth Certificate? There is no such creature as efficently run govt agency. They don’t have to be, because they have NO competion, unlike Wal Mart who has folks coming at them from all sides of the retail world.

Funny. Last time I went to get a copy of my birth certificate, I walked in, paid the fee and walked out with it. Competition is not the be-all and end-all of everything. There are some things that only the government can and should do.

While you’re on roll to cap salaries

No.

and bust up monoplies

Yes.

I suggest you start right there in Washington DC.

Not a problem, on some issues.

Bust up the HEW

???

and make schools compete, and see if they don’t improve.

Education is not widgets or bags of salad. You can’t use competition in education because if it’s screwed up, it screws up a generation. Stop interfering with teachers doing their jobs and let them teach and maybe things will improve.

Salary caps, all for it, start with govt. Cap the salaries of all dept heads and freeze all merit raises.

So, the typist at the bottom will end up eating dog food? No thanks!

Sheesssssssh I give up. If you want to know what happens when a liberal govt is allowed to run amuck, all you gotta look to is California, Michigan, NY and most major cities, but I digress. Today is Friday, day. So I’m gonna read the paper then take a long ride to my favorite pizza hangout for lunch, and slam a pepperoni, for no other reason then I can.

California a liberal government? Considering I work for the State of California, I can tell you that it’s not run by a bunch of liberals. We’ve been run by far right-wing Republicans (True Republicans™ - the economic kind) for 13 of the 17 years I’ve been with the state. Considering the buying power of my pay is less than it was when I was hired (and I’ve been promoted since!), I think you’re getting your wish.

Since the dems think I’m rich, I’ll need to stop by Staples and pick up Turbo Tax to see how bad I’m gonna get nailed *this *year.

I’m gonna leave the rest of this to Vern.

So what does LCMS stand for??

Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod. I became a Catholic in 1995.

 

[steveandersen]

BamaRider:

Bust up the HEW.

???.

From context It appears that he may be referring to the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare

Which was of course “busted up” years ago into the Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Education.

 

[BamaRider]

California a liberal government? Considering I work for the State of California, I can tell you that it’s not run by a bunch of liberals. We’ve been run by far right-wing Republicans (True Republicans™ - the economic kind) for 13 of the 17 years I’ve been with the state. Considering the buying power of my pay is less than it was when I was hired (and I’ve been promoted since!), I think you’re getting your wish.

Now c’mon LCM, Mexifornia is NOT a liberal state??? Run by liberals? Some of the highest taxes in the country and in the deepest red, to the tune of almost 2 billion?? The state legislature is what? Conservative?? AIn’t it like 70% demoractic?? Why they don’t give y’all raises I dunno, plenty of money coming in, but wait they must be spending it on the roads! I spend a lot of time riding out there each year, and I can tell ya most of those roads beat the chrome of my bikes and loosen fillings.

My experience with 2 states and BC. Had to have one for a passport, like a previous poster Va gave me a paper that said I had a BC, but it wasn’t an actual BC, it worked for everything for 50 years of my life, but the passport folks said it wasn’t gonna fly for a passport.

Ok so I call Va, “look here I need a BC,”

“ok that’ll be 25 dollars and 2-3 weeks”

“do what? Just go look it up, print it out, and mail it to me”

“don’t work that way”

“why not?”

“we’re busy, but for 40 dollars we’ll rush it and Fed Ex to ya in 3 days.”

“so how come y’all can’t do that all the time? I mean if the guy is on stand by for 40, what does he DO in between rush jobs? Hang out in the break room?”

And that makes my point, in private business they’re NOT gonna put up with such stuff, they will FIRE you for not doing your job, they don’t much do that with a state job, and we ALL know it. It takes a act of legislature to lose a govt job.

Can you imagine a insurance company telling a policy holder looking for some paperwork such stuff? I walked in my local hospital for a report, and walked out with it. Didn’t charge me anything! I can see charging a fee for outta state folks lookin for a BC, but a resident??

Look you work for the state, I don’t have to tell ya y’all operate in your own world. Real world stuff doesn’t apply. Try calling a state office on a Friday! Only about half the folks are there! LOL

As far as Michigan, I’m thinking they taxed themselves into a one state recesssion. My guess is the City of Detroit has some of the highest taxes in the country. Probably an occupational tax, just to punish that happen to have jobs in that hopeless city. I’m thinking a student in Detroit is funded 2x what a student here gets, and they can’t buy school supplies? But don’t get me wrong, a bunch of pitiful school systems in Alabama, but I don’t think we have ANYTHING like Detriot’s.

The feds have regulated and punished the car industry, the UAW also has a lot of culpability with Detroit’s demise and you add all that up together, and Michigan is hurting, and is looking at losing reps in Congress come the next Census (as is California, NY, NJ) I reckon alot of folks are voting up there with their feet and coming south! And that is why the south holds and sways elections, now with 33% of the country’s population and growing, and most of the industry.

By the way HEW= Health, Education and Welfare Dept.

By the way pizza was good.

 

[LCMS_No_More]

Now c’mon LCM, Mexifornia

You just outed yourself as a racist. You are, therefore, the Weakest Link. Good bye.

 

[BamaRider]

Education is not widgets or bags of salad. You can’t use competition in education because if it’s screwed up, it screws up a generation. Stop interfering with teachers doing their jobs and let them teach and maybe things will improve.

So you’re saying public edcuation is a success??? All you gotta do to see how edcuation has been dumbed down since the govt took over is look at 4 grade English book circa 1870, when kids were taught in a local one room school house. Now compare it to a present 4 grade text, and the case will be closed.

Don’t take my word for it, they might have such a book in the local library.

No its not widgets, but if schools had to compete for students it would weed out incompentency. Schools won’t put up with bad teachers, because they run off students, and good ones would be rewarded, because they attract students, and students=money. It ain’t complicated.

 

[estesbob]

You just outed yourself as a racist. You are, therefore, the Weakest Link. Good bye.

Well there it goes-the left play the race card! And of course what you expect is for him to go whimpering away and apologizing profusely.What is really funny in the left is now finding out how hard it is to defend yourself against the charge of racism. We have only to look at the current presidential campaign to see what I mean

 

[estesbob]

So you’re saying public edcuation is a success??? All you gotta do to see how edcuation has been dumbed down since the govt took over is look at 4 grade English book circa 1870, when kids were taught in a local one room school house. Now compare it to a present 4 grade text, and the case will be closed.

Don’t take my word for it, they might have such a book in the local library.

No its not widgets, but if schools had to compete for students it would weed out incompentency. Schools won’t put up with bad teachers, because they run off students, and good ones would be rewarded, because they attract students, and students=money. It ain’t complicated.

I want to congratulate you on being admitted to LCMS__No_More’s steadily increasing roster of racists. It is quite an honor because basically it means that he has lost the debate with you, Rather than admit he was wrong he will now stomp off in righteous indignation

 

[LCMS_No_More]

Well there it goes-the left play the race card! And of course what you expect is for him to go whimpering away and apologizing profusely.What is really funny in the left is now finding out how hard it is to defend yourself against the charge of racism. We have only to look at the current presidential campaign to see what I mean

No, he made a racist slur about an entire state. He pulled the card and I called him on it. I don’t care if he apologizes or not. By pulling out “Mexifornia,” which a vile slur, he ended the argument.

Criticize the South here and you get flamed to death. Talk about “Mexifornia” and you get defended and are celebrated as droll.

How Christian.

 

[BamaRider]

Now c’mon LCM, that ain’t true. LOL

I didn’t make the term up, and why is it racist?

Look brother, there’s a large city in Mexico called Mexicali, right on the border, the sister city across the border is called Calexico (you can find it about 100 miles west of Yuma.) Now those folks don’t think anything about it, why would you leave in a huff at the term Mexifornia??

I’m thinking the good folks of Mexican desecent living in California would take exception at the term being a “vile racist remark” I’ve been through Calexico a time or 2 on motorcycle trips.

How many times you think I hear the term redneck, or hayseed when someone hears my accent, in say Maine? (been there a time or 2 also) I don’t think anything about it, dang relax.

Thanks for coming to my defense Bob, I’m thinking LC is just having a bad day

 

[mapleoak]

Well there it goes-the left play the race card!

Well, you know it was bound to surface sooner or later.

 

[mapleoak]

How many times you think I hear the term redneck, or hayseed when someone hears my accent, in say Maine?

When people hear my accent, I get called a ‘Yooper’.

 

[goofyjim]

Now c’mon LCM, that ain’t true. LOL

I didn’t make the term up, and why is it racist?

Look brother, there’s a large city in Mexico called Mexicali, right on the border, the sister city across the border is called Calexico (you can find it about 100 miles west of Yuma.) Now those folks don’t think anything about it, why would you leave in a huff at the term Mexifornia??

I’m thinking the good folks of Mexican desecent living in California would take exception at the term being a “vile racist remark” I’ve been through Calexico a time or 2 on motorcycle trips.

How many times you think I hear the term redneck, or hayseed when someone hears my accent, in say Maine? (been there a time or 2 also) I don’t think anything about it, dang relax.

Thanks for coming to my defense Bob, I’m thinking LC is just having a bad day

Yet if you are going to make racist remarks you should be able to tolerate being called redneck. The road goes both ways.

 

[BamaRider]

Yet if you are going to make racist remarks you should be able to tolerate being called redneck. The road goes both ways.

So a moderator doesn’t close what is otherwise a entertaining thread, send me a PM with a reason you think the term Mexifornia is racist.

What are the poor folks living in the good city of Calexico to think?

 

[BamaRider]

When people hear my accent, I get called a ‘Yooper’.

But ya gotta admit, y’all do tawk funny up around the Soo.

 

[estesbob]

Well, you know it was bound to surface sooner or later.

I suspect it will soon be revealed that Bama is a nazi to.

 

[estesbob]

So a moderator doesn’t close what is otherwise a entertaining thread, send me a PM with a reason you think the term Mexifornia is racist.

What are the poor folks living in the good city of Calexico to think?

You are in good company-you can by the book :here

amazon.com/Mexifornia-Becoming-Victor-Davis-Hanson/dp/1893554732

And a defintion by that racist organization Wikipedia here:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexifornia

And here is a web site set up by racist Mexican Immigrants :library.thinkquest.org/J002136/

 

[BamaRider]

The term Mexifornia is becoming part of the regular lexicon, both in English and Spanglish, appearing from books[2] to t-shirts.

That from the Wikepdia link posted by Bob. Check it out.

 

[mapleoak]

But ya gotta admit, y’all do tawk funny up around the Soo.

Say ya! to da U.P., eh!

 

[vern_humphrey]

Say ya! to da U.P., eh!

It’s da second week a deer camp
An all da guys are here
We play cards and shoot da bull
But never shoot no deer

Da only time we leave da camp
Is when we go for beer
Da second week a deer camp
Is da best week a da year.