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puzzleannie
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they are going to be in the penitentiary together or in the nuthouse together?
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Ray_Scheel
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Yes? The man is fruity enough to supply half the produce section and has enough of a history of disordered thinking to not hold out much hope he’ll improve, even while a long-term guest of the prison system (especially since he’ll probably be treated brutally inside).
My hope is that she’ll decide to divorce him when she realizes she’ll never have a chance of getting her child back if she doesn’t and realizes Prince Charming is going to be in the clink for a looooonnng time before he sees the light of day.
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blessedtoo
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I would sure appreciate a link of some kind? Some of us haven’t heard this story!
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BlestOne
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This is one of the more gruesome stories I have heard, but the theme is not at all uncommon… the woman chooses her man over her children after he has hurt the children. When I was a foster parent I ran into this theme all the time. Most of the women chose their men out of selfish reasons, not religious ones. Money, support, low self esteem… the list goes on and on. I had one girl whose mom allowed men to sexually abuse the girl. He mom watched and participated… It begs the question…HOW COULD SHE??? I had another girl whose mom was too busy hunting down potential hubby #3 to show up for court to determine the custody of her daughter after she let her bf kick her son out of the house because he listened to music too loudly. Yet another girl I had in my home was placed because she repeatedly turned her mom and step dad in for selling drugs. When the cops got there the drugs disappeared(parents were friends with the cops)…heck, her mom didn’t even notice when this girl was 13 yo and 6 mos pregnant!!! After that they forced her to give her baby up for adoption when the paternal grandparents wanted to raise the baby. This kid got the heck beat out of her each time she turned in mom for drugs. There are more and more stories… and I had the teens because I couldn’t handle the horrible things I saw with the little ones. I used to help my gf with the little ones… it was heartbreaking!!!
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Nordar
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BlestOne, I believe you. this does not surprise me about this woman either. To both her and the sick excuse for a father this baby was simply disposable. The baby was not important to her so why would her thinking of going back to him to save the marriage surprise anyone? She knew just how sick he was, and she knew by his previous behavour he ovboiusly did not want the baby. So why did she leave him alone with that baby ( which she must have done) unless she was there to witness what he did. She belongs locked up right along with him.
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jules11
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NO! NO! NO!
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jules11
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Never in a million years would I look that …(there is no word to describe a father that could do that to his child!) in the face again!
Excuse my ignorance, but did the child die? I’m guessing it did, so why isn’t he in jail for a very long time?
Excuse my ignorance, but did the child die? I’m guessing it did, so why isn’t he in jail for a very long time?
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DL82
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I hate to be the one to say this but…
How many mothers stay with their boyfriends/husbands after the man basically forces or blackmails them into having their baby chopped up in the womb and sucked out in a bloody mess? How many men stay with their wives/girlfriends who do the same?
It may be more socially acceptable, but is it really much better than microwaving a baby?
How many mothers stay with their boyfriends/husbands after the man basically forces or blackmails them into having their baby chopped up in the womb and sucked out in a bloody mess? How many men stay with their wives/girlfriends who do the same?
It may be more socially acceptable, but is it really much better than microwaving a baby?
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masondoggy
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As far as I know, the baby is still alive with second degree burns. She is in foster care.
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jules11
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So true…but sadly, they don’t see it that way.
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whatevergirl
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hi jules–who’s ‘they’ in your statement above?
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Katie1723
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NO way would I stay with someone who did that to my child…I don’t care what the church says.
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Truly_Beloved
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I certainly don’t think the Church would expect you to!
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whatevergirl
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The RCC teaches forgiveness; that doesn’t mean we need to stay in abusive relationships. Not one priest, I can’t imagine, would tell a woman she should stay in something so sick.
We need to be compassionate…obviously this man was not well…could be borderline evil, but nonetheless, we are to be compassionate. As hard as that is in this case…but, again, that doesn’t mean foolish. You don’t purposely put yourself or your kids in harm’s way…God did give us a brain, too…preferrably to use.
I wonder if this man exhibited any other abusive outbursts with this baby? Are there other kids involved?
We need to be compassionate…obviously this man was not well…could be borderline evil, but nonetheless, we are to be compassionate. As hard as that is in this case…but, again, that doesn’t mean foolish. You don’t purposely put yourself or your kids in harm’s way…God did give us a brain, too…preferrably to use.
I wonder if this man exhibited any other abusive outbursts with this baby? Are there other kids involved?
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jules11
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The women who butcher their unborn babies, the men that force them to do it (in some cases) and the men who stay with women that do it… all those who think it’s ok to kill a baby just because you can’t see it… or because you don’t know the child yet.hi jules–who’s ‘they’ in your statement above?
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Dan_Grelinger
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We are to follow Christ’s example. What would He do?
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deb1
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As Jesus was never married and certainly did not have children, I can honestly say that I do not know.
I would think what Jesus would be disgusted by the cruelty of this man’s actions.
Considering that Jesus said about someone hurting children, I can’t imagine that he’d be pleased.
Should the woman forgive him, yes. But she should also make certain that human justice makes this man pay whatever price it deems necessary and she should not stay with him.
Your question makes me curious as to your own response to your question. What do you think Jesus would do?
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whatevergirl
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oh ok. That’s pretty insightful, actually.
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Dan_Grelinger
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My own guess at what Jesus would do? He, of course, as you mentioned, would forgive. He would also probably do what he could do to most ensure this person’s salvation.
By far, most of the responses on this thread are not oriented that way. They seem to be selfishly motivated. Is this man’s salvation best served by being deserted by his wife? I don’t know, but the fact that this question is not being asked is what bothers me. What appears to be happening are most people are making decisions on what they want for themselves, to satisfy their quest for emotional retribution.
Maybe leaving him (temporarily) would most ensure this man’s salvation, but I don’t think so.
Sincerely,
Dan
By far, most of the responses on this thread are not oriented that way. They seem to be selfishly motivated. Is this man’s salvation best served by being deserted by his wife? I don’t know, but the fact that this question is not being asked is what bothers me. What appears to be happening are most people are making decisions on what they want for themselves, to satisfy their quest for emotional retribution.
Maybe leaving him (temporarily) would most ensure this man’s salvation, but I don’t think so.
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whatevergirl
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Hi Dan;
I agree to a point.
We are called to compassion…but we are called to also protect those who cannot defend themselves. I mean…I honestly don’t care really if she stays or leaves the guy…I am concerned at the scars…emotionally, that will be left on this poor baby for life. Compassion also comes in many forms. If God never allowed consequences for our actions (He doesn’t cause them, we do when we stray) would we consider Him compassionate? I think sometimes, when we are excused too easily and quickly…we get the strange sense that what we did is condoned.
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