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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
don’t close it please!!!
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don’t close it please!!!
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Jaded27
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carol marie:
Not that easy to get rid of I guess.
I just think that if a JW comes into this forum they have to expect that it’s MOSTLY Catholics and that their views are going to differ from all of yours.
I think the sub forum is a good idea. There is bound to be curiosity about other religions. And any JWs that do stumble in here may be able to provide insight to the rest of you. Can’t be a bad thing, right?
Eh, you never know. Didn’t happen to me. I’m still here.
Not that easy to get rid of I guess.I just think that if a JW comes into this forum they have to expect that it’s MOSTLY Catholics and that their views are going to differ from all of yours.
I think the sub forum is a good idea. There is bound to be curiosity about other religions. And any JWs that do stumble in here may be able to provide insight to the rest of you. Can’t be a bad thing, right?
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Evanescence
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I noticed that the JW’s are easy to offend, and they think that everything said is anti-jw and we are just bashing their doctines, but alot of times we are just discussing their doctines, they just don’t agree with our views and get worked up about it.
some posts are like “how do I stop them from comming to my door?” this isn’t just Catholics who think that, anyone even people who don’t care about religion much would also wonder that.
I’m sure the jw’s understand that yes having a complete stranger come to the door and offer watchtower magazines, put their foot in the door way and argue would not be everyones cup of tea.
Closing the subforum would not stop those posts, we would just discuss them in “non-catholic religions” but they would be harder to locate.
I love this sub-forum, even if its not as active as others, this subforum hasn’t been around for long.
So admin, just bare a little patience, this sub-forum is great even if its not as speedy as others.
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some posts are like “how do I stop them from comming to my door?” this isn’t just Catholics who think that, anyone even people who don’t care about religion much would also wonder that.
I’m sure the jw’s understand that yes having a complete stranger come to the door and offer watchtower magazines, put their foot in the door way and argue would not be everyones cup of tea.
Closing the subforum would not stop those posts, we would just discuss them in “non-catholic religions” but they would be harder to locate.
I love this sub-forum, even if its not as active as others, this subforum hasn’t been around for long.
So admin, just bare a little patience, this sub-forum is great
even if its not as speedy as others.Evanescence
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MaggieOH
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Even though I do not post very often, I believe that having the sub-forum is a good idea. It helps people who need specific information to get that information in a hurry.
We are already blessed with the presence of one JW and his apostolate certainly helps people to have a better understanding of this particular sect.
If you want us to make it busy with traffic and ask lots of questions of those who are able to answer, then we will certainly oblige in order to keep the forum open. .
In the past I have had one brush with a senior JW in Sydney. I thought that he was rude and arrogant and his conversations with his wife over the phone indicated that he was a wife abuser. From some of the things that I have seen on the Internet his behaviour seems to be consistent with what is encouraged amongst the JWs. We do need to be able to expose these things so that if someone has been approached and they come here looking for answers, we can tell them more about what really goes on.
Also we need to constantly remind the more ignorant of our Protestant brethren that there is no similarity between the JWs and Catholic Church as some love to perceive.
We are already blessed with the presence of one JW and his apostolate certainly helps people to have a better understanding of this particular sect.
If you want us to make it busy with traffic and ask lots of questions of those who are able to answer, then we will certainly oblige in order to keep the forum open.
.In the past I have had one brush with a senior JW in Sydney. I thought that he was rude and arrogant and his conversations with his wife over the phone indicated that he was a wife abuser. From some of the things that I have seen on the Internet his behaviour seems to be consistent with what is encouraged amongst the JWs. We do need to be able to expose these things so that if someone has been approached and they come here looking for answers, we can tell them more about what really goes on.
Also we need to constantly remind the more ignorant of our Protestant brethren that there is no similarity between the JWs and Catholic Church as some love to perceive.
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Pug
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I’d rather be able to avoid JW threads. Having them so labeled is helpful. If it is a waste of resources and time, however, close the subforum.
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the_phoenix
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For the record, I officially registered as a member here for the specific purpose of voting to keep the JW sub-forum open.
I’ve been lurking here several weeks now to try and glean information from others’ posts on how to deal with having a JW friend who has kept her religion secret from me for an entire 13 years! Sounds incredible that such a thing could remain hidden for so long, but easier to understand when you consider that our friendship has always been long distance, starting as pen pals and then moving to phone conversations when her health deteriorated.
I posted a longer post about the situation at another Catholic forum as a prayer request thread, hoping for insight. While there’s much to love about that other forum, only two brave souls responded publicly … I think many people there just found my plight too shocking to deal with and didn’t know how to answer me. Maybe I could post about it here.
There has been a third kind soul who’s offered help and encouragement, whom I’d be happy to name and give public thanks and credit to if I knew such publicity would be welcome.
Meanwhile, I really don’t know where else to go for objective, third-party help with something like this, besides places like this JW sub-forum.
~~ the phoenix
I’ve been lurking here several weeks now to try and glean information from others’ posts on how to deal with having a JW friend who has kept her religion secret from me for an entire 13 years! Sounds incredible that such a thing could remain hidden for so long, but easier to understand when you consider that our friendship has always been long distance, starting as pen pals and then moving to phone conversations when her health deteriorated.
I posted a longer post about the situation at another Catholic forum as a prayer request thread, hoping for insight. While there’s much to love about that other forum, only two brave souls responded publicly … I think many people there just found my plight too shocking to deal with and didn’t know how to answer me. Maybe I could post about it here.
There has been a third kind soul who’s offered help and encouragement, whom I’d be happy to name and give public thanks and credit to if I knew such publicity would be welcome.
Meanwhile, I really don’t know where else to go for objective, third-party help with something like this, besides places like this JW sub-forum.
~~ the phoenix
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Jaded27
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I think it should be kept open because JWs can get useful information here on Catholics and then also answer questions about their own religion. Certainly it exists because people are at least curious about what we believe.
I also think it’s a good idea because of one of the posts above. Wife abuse is about as prevalent in the JW religion as it is in Catholocism. Nobody is going to encourage it but it is something that happens. When it happens it’s dealt with accordingly. I’ve helped friends through such situations on a few occasions and it was never covered up as people like to proclaim.
So I also think it’s great that this is open so that people like me, who DO go on forums, can defend their faith and discuss matters openly.
I also think it’s a good idea because of one of the posts above. Wife abuse is about as prevalent in the JW religion as it is in Catholocism. Nobody is going to encourage it but it is something that happens. When it happens it’s dealt with accordingly. I’ve helped friends through such situations on a few occasions and it was never covered up as people like to proclaim.
So I also think it’s great that this is open so that people like me, who DO go on forums, can defend their faith and discuss matters openly.
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scylla
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Even though it is small, people who are willing to discuss things and look at other points of view do show up like Jaded27.
Unless it is a large burden, we should be focused on improvement, and moving forward. Even helping very few Jehovah’s Witnesses discuss their beliefs and understand Catholicism honestly is better than an even smaller percentage if they feel that there is no place for them.
God Bless
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Unless it is a large burden, we should be focused on improvement, and moving forward. Even helping very few Jehovah’s Witnesses discuss their beliefs and understand Catholicism honestly is better than an even smaller percentage if they feel that there is no place for them.
God Bless
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Jaded27
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Exactly. Very nice point.
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gettochurch
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No way. Please keep the JW forum open if possible.
They have just opened a new JW center a couple streets down from where I live, we have never had one here till now. I guess they are trying to bring in new members from unsatisfied Catholics and maybe non-Catholics also.
They have just opened a new JW center a couple streets down from where I live, we have never had one here till now. I guess they are trying to bring in new members from unsatisfied Catholics and maybe non-Catholics also.
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Jaded27
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It’s called a Kingdom Hall. Apparently I’ve made no impact here at all. . .No way. Please keep the JW forum open if possible.
They have just opened a new JW center a couple streets down from where I live, we have never had one here till now. I guess they are trying to bring in new members from unsatisfied Catholics and maybe non-Catholics also.
You all are ticked off for that reason - because JWs draw catholics away. Well, it’s not like it’s some vendetta we have. We just think people deserve to know the truth. hopefully more will realize it soon.
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Jaded27
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And by the way, a KH is built where there is a NEED for one among JWs. Not deliberately built in a “catholic neighborhood” or something. Trust me, I’m sure it wasn’t by choice.
It’s hard for JWs to get land to build their Halls on. Unlike the church that has an abundance of money we do not. And people don’t want us there so they will deny permit after permit. I’ve seen it happen. Illegally.
So we build where we can, not where we’ll be able to “draw catholics away”.
It’s hard for JWs to get land to build their Halls on. Unlike the church that has an abundance of money we do not. And people don’t want us there so they will deny permit after permit. I’ve seen it happen. Illegally.
So we build where we can, not where we’ll be able to “draw catholics away”.
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Jaded27
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Actually, I change my vote to a yes again. (because I accidentally voted yes in the first place). Close it down. It’s not doing anyone any good. It’s just a gripe fest.
“How do I get rid of JWs”
“Are they evil”
“I dislike everyone who’s not catholic like me”
Oh wait, that topic was merely implied. . .
“How do I get rid of JWs”
“Are they evil”
“I dislike everyone who’s not catholic like me”
Oh wait, that topic was merely implied. . .
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carol_marie
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Oh Jaded,
I’ve said it before but I’m going to say it one last time. We do not dislike “everyone who’s not Catholic” - ie: YOU. We do not know you personally - and actually in many posts you came across as a very nice, even witty person so I bet you are fun to be around… It’s not YOU anyone had a problem with… or any other individual Witness. It’s the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society and the total disregard THEY have for the truth about God - about Jesus - about Heaven - about Salvation - about the Bible… basically everything. We wanted to discuss the issues - but for some reason you took it all so personally. You felt that we were spreading lies - even though a few of us posters are former Witnesses and we know exactally what we’re talking about.
In one of your earliest posts you spoke of how you being a JW & your boyfriend being a Catholic was not that big of a deal because both religions have lots of things in common. I hope if nothing else, by coming here to this forum you have seen firsthand that just isn’t true. The Catholic Faith & the Jehovah’s Witness Faith are very very different - in almost every regard.
The past few days of our posts back & forth have clearly illustrated why I think a JW sub forum does not work if the intention is to draw JW’s to the site. We just don’t have common ground in which to build upon. As Catholics were are eventually going to discuss why our faith is correct and in doing so, we are going to have to bring up all sorts of things about the Watchtower Society - it’s history - etc. that the vast majority of witnesses are not willing to even consider. A JW would be better off poking around in the other subforums where they can learn about the Catholic Faith in a non-threatening manner. And maybe… in time they would be ready to consider the evidence against the WT???
However, as I said, if the purpose of the subforum is for Catholics to learn how to deal with JW’s - then it is beneficial and should remain as it is.
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Therese_Martin
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Thanks for the (name removed by moderator)ut, everyone, and for participating in the poll.
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