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It’s fine man I’m just saying that you kind of jumped in on what I was saying to him when you didn’t know what you were talking about. I never asked you to mindread anything.
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thewalrus
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I understand completely. I was only speaking theologically towards the issue of “nature” in my post above.
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Arclight
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… dude …
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thewalrus
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hehe Arclight, you make me happy.
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Bennie_P
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Attacks on federal marriage protections could create ‘legal Armageddon’
protectdoma.org/
The “gay” rights movement has it origin out of racist idology of Nazi Germany.
Though we will find gays among all races, the “gay” movement is rooted in anti Judea-Christianity immorality of racist Nazi Germany.
Most of those that indentifying themselves as “gay” just want to be left alone to make their choices as they see, fit, but the "gay’ right movement is a whole differnt ball game.
Just as missguided progressives and other liberals during the cold war let the Communist Party of Russia use them in its fight against America’s democracy, we today have many liberals, progressives, and those that suffer with SSA being unwittingly used by a few haters of the judea-Christianity lead them in a similar destructive path against America’s core values and democracy in general.
Now is that enough of a politcal rant for you?
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pathia
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The 70% was likely a bad sample. A study afterward show about 57% 70% doesn’t match the actual counted data.
sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/07/BANB154OS1.DTL&type=politics
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lol see Smiter, there you have it. Now gay rights came from Nazi’s and is rooted in anti-Semitism. Still waiting on cannibalism to pop up.Attacks on federal marriage protections could create ‘legal Armageddon’
protectdoma.org/
The “gay” rights movement has it origin out of racist idology of Nazi Germany.
Though we will find gays among all races, the “gay” movement is rooted in anti Judea-Christianity immorality of racist Nazi Germany.
Most of those that indentifying themselves as “gay” just want to be left alone to make their choices as they see, fit*, but the "gay’ right movement is a whole differnt ball game.
Just as missguided progressives and other liberals during the cold war let the Communist Party of Russia use them in its fight against America’s democracy, we today have many liberals, progressives, and those that suffer with SSA being unwittingly used by a few haters of the judea-Christianity lead them in a similar destructive path against America’s core values and democracy in general.
Now is that enough of a politcal rant for you?
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This is completely ridiculous. Many homosexuals were murdered by the Nazis.Attacks on federal marriage protections could create ‘legal Armageddon’
protectdoma.org/
The “gay” rights movement has it origin out of racist idology of Nazi Germany.
Though we will find gays among all races, the “gay” movement is rooted in anti Judea-Christianity immorality of racist Nazi Germany.
Most of those that indentifying themselves as “gay” just want to be left alone to make their choices as they see, fit*, but the "gay’ right movement is a whole differnt ball game.
Just as missguided progressives and other liberals during the cold war let the Communist Party of Russia use them in its fight against America’s democracy, we today have many liberals, progressives, and those that suffer with SSA being unwittingly used by a few haters of the judea-Christianity lead them in a similar destructive path against America’s core values and democracy in general.
Now is that enough of a politcal rant for you?
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thewalrus
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Thank you Annn, thank you!
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pathia
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But two guys wrote it in a book, it must be true! Especially since it’s so crazy not many people have even bothered to debunk it.
Though more seriously, part of the problem debunking it is it lists as sources little pamphlets that people just stick in the library, or at random places to give out free fliers. It’s not actual research, it’s quackery.
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Bennie_P
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Murdered by other homosexuals. In fact many of the NAZI leadership were Homosexuals and they used Germany anti-homosexual laws against brethren of similar orientation, for it was they for which they feared to be an enemy that could bring down their facade of lies and fear. The Jews become their no # 1 scapegoat with Christians that challenge their policy of hate came in at a close second.
Homosexuals were never oppressed the way Jews were and were not usually sent to the same camps as the Jews or marked for general elimination as the Jews.
Homosexuality of many of the NAZI leadership is well documented even by homosexual writers such as Lother Machtan in his book the Hidden Hitler originally published in Germany 2001.
The Jews made an easy scapegoat for anti-Semitism has always been high in Germany. Some speculate that Hitler’s and many other NAZI’s hate for the Jews and the Catholic Church was rooted in his hatred of Judea-Christian morality which condemns homosexual behavior and calls for one to love his fellow man.
Much of Jewish history is rooted in Israel’s call to separation from the pagans in which they found themselves surrounded by. Those pagans practiced not only human/child sacrifice, but ritual prostitution, and homosexuality. The NAZIs had tried to redefine themselves with their Pagan past, with the myth of the Aryan and militant homo-erotica so many of the leaders of their movement seemed to cherish, this is something Judea-Christianity morality stood against, so in order to put an end to this code of morality Jews had to be destroyed in order to put an end to Judea-Christianity. Without the Jew, Christianity dies or becomes forever corrupt. When Christianity dies then the license to immorality is complete.
Nazism was/is evil, the goal of Nazism was not used to promote homosexuality but of having unyielding and unchallenged power of a few over the many. And it killed its own to do so.
Gay marriage is not about equal rights, nor is it about giving homosexuals power over others. It is about a minute minority, some gay, many not, power over the majority to do whatever they want without opposition. Without questions about morality, ethics and, especially any discussion about, or responsibility to God, or his plan.
Gay marriage is just one tool that Satan is using to attack God and his children, by fooling man in believing that he can be a god.
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Bennie_P
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Still a pretty good majority - and looks like them Black Churches need to go in order to put them folks in line.
Strong religious tradition seems to equal = strong political opposition to same-sex marriage.:coffeeread:
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pathia
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Sooo, you’re calling us Nazi’s intent on killing all Christians and Jews? I’m just trying to see how any of this applies to anything. That’s a pretty defamatory action.
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Not at all, if fact I am saying that I think the mass majoriity of Homosexuals are victims of a hoax that is called the ‘gay’ rights movement, which has nothing to do with equal rights but gaining absolute power, in which the majority of Homosexuals will not be able to or invited to share in. Homosexuals are just being used and abused in order for it to be done. Otherwise they are allowing themselves to be set up to be victimized. aka: dupes
Now how is a warning for your safety and well being defamatory?
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pathia
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I’m sorry, but I think you’re alarmist to the point of seeming like a 9/11 truther. There is absolutely zero truth in ANYTHING of those books.Not at all, if fact I am saying that I think the mass majoriity of Homosexuals are victims of a hoax that is called the ‘gay’ rights movement, which has nothing to do with equal rights but gaining absolute power, in which the majority of Homosexuals will not be able to or invited to share in. Homosexuals are just being used and abused in order for it to be done. Otherwise they are allowing themselves to be set up to be victimized. aka: dupes
Now how is a warning for your safety and well being defamatory?
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thewalrus
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pathia, let’s just leave him alone and stop giving him attention. I’m convinced he’s an internet troll bent on getting attention. And based on the lack of responses he always gets, I don’t think anyone even reads his posts anymore.
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pathia
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It’s so hard to reply to those posts without being just as inflammatory. I think you may be right. That’s fairly typical troll behavior. They want you to make a fool of yourself
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thewalrus
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No, you’re absolutely right. I’m tempted to write all sorts of things I shouldn’t, which only makes me look bad.
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Fr. Mike,This question came up in a different thread on the “Social Justice” Forum. I think it worth its own thread if nobody minds…
“The point is legal marriage, here…upon which religious points of view don’t have bearing. No one’s pushing for the catholic church to hold gay marriages…so where are the reasons that gays shouldn’t be able to marry in the eyes of the state? Anyone?”***
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I’ll grant to lleave the Church out of it for the sake of argument (though you really cannot for I would argue that one can only fully separate the Church from the State by holding to no belief in God and His creation.) Thus we acknowledge the State as having her own authority to establish and regulate juridical entities, such as marriage, which she ought to and does.
So homosexual marriage would then be held to be a ‘juridical’ or legal entity with its own rights, norms and privileges in society. That is fine to a certain point for we do need to distinguish carefully between such possible legal entities. Let me start with just a few (the list could be endless and all signs seem to show that it will be) such as marriage between a single man and a single woman as verses marriage between a man and several women or between two women, or between a woman and a dog (don’t laugh) or between a man and a boy, etc… Thus we seem to have a possible chaos only revealing the failure of the state to adequately protect and insure the temporal life and happiness of her constituents (and I mean here particularly children who are either the natural product of such unions or the ‘artificial’ product of gay marriage.)
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Some States may sanction gay marriage, (no such thing is allowed in a Christian Church,) God hates this sin) that is when God will draw His blessings away from our country. (My opinion.)
When the Church gives their blessing to this ridiculous union, that is when I will stop attending church! It would be a sin to support this perversion which God hates. ( Rom.1:18-32, 1Cor.6:9-20)
This is my last word on this subject. My prayers are with those who are caught up in this lifestyle.
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