Should the TLM be more available?

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Most bishops who obstinately refuse Tridentine Masses are exhibiting the worst of the allegedly “old” Catholic mentality.

“I said so…ergo, you must obey.”

I know of one couple who were about 400+ miles one way from a Tridentine Mass. They happen to be quite wealthy, and they started taking a weekly trip…usually by shorthaul commuter plane…to attend a Tridentine parish in a neighboring archdiocese that has Sunday and Daily Mass, and the Sacraments.

When they tried to arrange their wedding with a Tridentine Nuptial Mass, they needed sacramental records from their original, home parishes.

The pastor of the bride’s church would not provide the documents. They were told they were not allowed to marry outside the diocese. They were told if they tried to marry outside the diocese, they would be “excommunicated”. Such was the word the pastor used.

They were also told that if they continued to attend the Tridentine parish, they still had to contribute financially to their home parishes. Since there was no record of any contributions, they were not able to be married in the home parish without “evidence of active participation in the faith community” (that was in writing in a letter).

Finally, they were told that if they married outside the diocese, their children could receive no sacraments.

This sort of tyranny is not unheard of. In the end, my friends were able to secure help from Rome in righting the serious abuses they were subjected to. Unfortunately, not everyone has the time, money, and zeal to pursue such things…others might, understandably, fold when Father starts talking “excommunication” and other outrageous threats.
 
So are the torture chambers of the Spanish Inquisition - old doesn’t mean good.
How on earth did you get that comparison? I honestly don’t see where you got this. Are you inferring that the TLM - a perfectly valid rite of Mass where Jesus is present and where a sacrament is given - is no different from a torture chamber?

I should mention I’ve yet to attend a TLM, but I still think it should be more widely available because, as I said previously, it’s a major part of OUR (you and I, as Catholics) history and a lot of people want it.

Old doesn’t mean bad.
 
LOL , very poor analogy from down under I must say. Come on Lily,
your killing me !!!:confused:
:bigyikes: NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!:bigyikes:

By the way, KyrieEleison, that SSPX church in Veneta is magnificent, especially compared with that Boy Scout lodge that the Archdiocese uses.
 
So are the torture chambers of the Spanish Inquisition - old doesn’t mean good.
oohhhh that’s harsh - kinda sounds “angry”

those 2000 years before VII pumped out a ton of AMAZING Saints

Well than again

probably so did the torture chambers of the Spanish Inquisition
 
oohhhh that’s harsh - kinda sounds “angry”

those 2000 years before VII pumped out a ton of AMAZING Saints

Well than again

probably so did the torture chambers of the Spanish Inquisition
Of course they did - and I’ll be willing to bet that if/when the NO has been around as long (without abuses, please God) it will too :yup:

Same sacrifice in both Masses, same Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ received by the faithful in both. How could it not?

I’m not angry, I have nothing against the TLM, just a somewhat raucous sense of humour.
 
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