Should the war on drugs end?

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Should the war on drugs end? I say yes. I feel it is immoral and does more harm than good.A record-breaking 5,612 people were executed in Mexico’s drug war in 2008, making the drug war more deadly than the drugs. The laws cause more evil than the prevent and are in fact a war against God. When God created the world he created things like pot, magic mushrooms, peyote ect, and said it was good (go read genesis). Not to metion that In the New Testament, Jesus never specifically addresses the use of marijuana, but his view on prohibition and purity seem to be summed up in Matthew 15:11: “It’s not what goes into a man’s mouth which defiles him,” said Jesus, "but rather that which comes out of it."The apostle Paul also reinforces this idea in his writings. “Everything created by God is good,” wrote Paul, “and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving.” (1 Timothy, 4:4) In another book, Paul writes “I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself; but it is unclean for any one who thinks it unclean… For the kingdom of God is not food and drink but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.” (Romans 14:14,17)
It is chemical bigotry that causes the violence of the war on drugs. The human body is one big chemical that is contantly having things added to it. If we say a drug is anything that when entering into the body causes a change in the way we view reality than everything is a drug. The food we eat change the way we view the world by energizing us, the words you are reading entering through your eyes is changing the way you view reality, even the air we breath has this effect in fact there are breathing exercises that will cause a trance state akin to hallucinations. So if something like alcohol is legal it is hypocrisy to ban other such narcotics. and Jesus saved his strongest condemnations for the hypocrites.
 
I don’t mean to offend you,But you’ve got to be kidding.The Sacred Scriptures you quoted does not put a stamp of approval on Drugs that distroy individuals,families,children and the nation we live in.Rocky.
 
I think they should only be regulated like alcohol… if nothing else, at least having it be illegal to drive a vehicle, etc, while under the influence of certain drugs.

With that said, the “God created pot” thing is such a lame argument and the fact that it’s used so often only shows how desperate people are to defend their own addictions. You could use that same ridiculous logic to justify rubbing poison ivy all over yourself, or eating poisonous plants.
 
In my experience (UW - Madison for 5 years), the best argument AGAINST the legalization of drugs are the PEOPLE arguing for it. 😛
 
When St. Paul says that drunkards will not inherit the kingdom (1 Corinthians 6:10), do you seriously believe he was only referring to alcohol? I work for the DEA. How dare you imply that our efforts are the cause of the killing, as if there were less killing before the drug war. You have no clue what you are talking about, and most of the work we do you will never hear about. If you want to fry your own brain, go ahead, but the work of taking out drug kingpins and their business operations is completely justified. If you want to live in that environment, then just head south of the border and see how long you last before you change your mind. Most of the illegal immigrants in this country come here to get away from that nonsense. They would rather be here illegally that put up with the danger back home. You have no idea what that is like, and you have much to learn.

BTW, about your Scripture arugments, God does not tolerate being mocked.
 
With drugs and alcohol, I’ll never understand why one is illegal and one isn’t. They should both be legal or both be illegal.
 
ahollars said:
When St. Paul says that drunkards will not inherit the kingdom (1 Corinthians 6:10), do you seriously believe he was only referring to alcohol? I work for the DEA. How dare you imply that our efforts are the cause of the killing, as if there were less killing before the drug war. You have no clue what you are talking about, and most of the work we do you will never hear about. If you want to fry your own brain, go ahead, but the work of taking out drug kingpins and their business operations is completely justified. If you want to live in that environment, then just head south of the border and see how long you last before you change your mind. Most of the illegal immigrants in this country come here to get away from that nonsense. They would rather be here illegally that put up with the danger back home. You have no idea what that is like, and you have much to learn.

BTW, about your Scripture arugments, God does not tolerate being mocked.
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It is your war that is the cause of violence. These people are trying to work and make a living for their families and the dea and other such groups are causing them to become criminals. Take away the war on drugs and the violence will stop. The same thing went on in the 20’s and when the war on alcohol ended so did the violence. These people are forced to defend their buissness intrests with violence becuse they have no legal recourse, its not like they can sue or file a complaint with the better buissness. The united states government is causeing the violence if they would just knock of the racist drug laws the people down south would be better able to pull themselves out of poverty.

And yes there are going to be people who abuse drugs just like alcohol, but not everybody who has a drink turns into a raging alcoholic. Use of such things like alcohol, pot, mushrooms ect, is not immoral, abuse is but not use and scripture says as much: Ecclesiasticus - Chapter 31: 27 Wine gives life if drunk in moderation. What is life worth without wine? It came into being to make people happy.
28 Drunk at the right time and in the right amount, wine makes for a glad heart and a cheerful mind.
facist law makers and powertripping cops are the cause of all the pain, violence and death the war on drugs has caused. Like really locking up hippies? What is the problem with you angry facists? Don’t you even question whether what you are doing is right? Stop persecuting peacfull pot smokers and go get a job that does something that makes the world a better place to live.
 
I think anyone in this country who uses illegal drugs for any reason needs to examine their conscience and confess and ask absolution their contribution to the current border violence with Mexico that is destroying the economy and cultural life here. You can’t end the drug war in this country until Mexico comes to terms with their own problem, but every user here bears the guilt of someone killed in this violence.
 
puzzleannie said:
I think anyone in this country who uses illegal drugs for any reason needs to examine their conscience and confess and ask absolution their contribution to the current border violence with Mexico that is destroying the economy and cultural life here. You can’t end the drug war in this country until Mexico comes to terms with their own problem, but every user here bears the guilt of someone killed in this violence.
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The violence is caused by unjust laws put in place by the united states government. Guilt is on the head of the government which causes the violence. I have not once heard a logical argument for use of drugs being immoral. But have heard many reasons why the govenment is in the wrong. Frankly the churchs postion on the war on drugs stinks of sycophantic kissing up to the u.s.a. and hypocrisy. Alcohol (which causes many deaths through drunk driving, alcohol poising, bar fights, ect,) ok but pot (which makes one relaxed, hungry and sleepy and never causes death unless you count a cop shooting some hippie) bad, just reeks of hypocrisy and that is moraly wrong. I guess the bishops just don’t have the info they need to make an informed position.
 
Drugs that are currently illegal need to stay illegal. That is my opinion. Why? Because as the Catechism states:

Catechism of the Catholic Church said:
**2291 **The use of drugs inflicts very grave damage on human health and life. Their use, except on strictly therapeutic grounds, is a grave offense. Clandestine production of and trafficking in drugs are scandalous practices. They constitute direct co-operation in evil, since they encourage people to practices gravely contrary to the moral law.
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The use of drugs inflicts very grave damage on human health, life, and society.
 
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