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ellammcg
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What are those?
Should there be actions taken to improve or even control immodest dress at mass?
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nice2000
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I think the poster is referring to “High Heeled” women shoes. The heel looks like a spike. Which as far as I am concerned are very hard to walk in. …very uncomfortable for me.
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ellammcg
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This quote (from the above posted link)-
- reminded of an incident with may pastor and his wife. They were dressed up to go to church (Wednesday evening) and they stopped to eat at a fast food restaurant on their way to church. Their server asked why they were dressed up and they were able to witness to her and invite her to church.
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Popes_Soldier
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…and maybe with glitter on them. Thats hooker-ish for sure.
Fantastic!! When we do the right thing, God can use us for His purposes
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mammallama
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usually platform high heels often with an ankle strap…think pole dancer.certainly not sold at Sears but at adult fantasy shops.they scream “loose morals”
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CatholiCommit
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I agree if people take their own discretion and learn on their on own what they should and should not wear chances are that most of the people in church will not figure it out, I also believe being modestly dressed shows you have even more respect for the church even before, during, and after mass. sure I was taught that certain types of clothing were for different types of occasions and I am not certainly judging anyone, I am just saying that I think it is time that the record be set straight,this day and age priest are more likely to speak of other matters, not a dress code, but I am sure some of you remember a time when only dress and long skirt were a allowed no pants of any kind. This also has to do with the kind of society in which we live.
Sure if we see someone not dressed properly then we should not look but if they are in front of us how can we not, maybe it is not the place of the priest to say anything right now but chances are that if he gets tired of it he will pull the people aside away from everyone else and tell them that he thinks in respect for God and The Church they need to wear more modest clothing, it is bound to happen if it has not already.
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Popes Soldier
As much as we want to kick everyone who walks through the front door of the church, that is not properly dressed, for fairness of everyone that has a right to attend mass should able to if they are able.
At some point if there is a dress code at the churches that do not have one then there might if enough people address it and make it a point that modest dress appropriate and why it is so then I think if people really love the church and God then they will not have a problem with this and I know it hard to not want to say anything, we shouldn’t unless there is a time where it is most appropriate to do so, Priests this day and age really do not feel that bring up this as a public issue is important enough, so they do not, but I believe that in some Catholic Churches some of the priest really look down on the fact that people come in dressed as poorly as they do, some of them might say something some of them might not it depends on the Church and the Priest.
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Popes_Soldier
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I suggest you re-read what I said. I did NOT say to kick anyone out, NOR did I say that certain people don’t have the right to attend Mass.
What I said was, if all it takes for someone to decide they don’t want to come to Mass is the setting of some standards for dress, then let them leave. I mean think about it: If someone says: “I’m not coming to Mass if you’re going to force me to dress nice”, then how important is the Mass to them? I’ll bet such a person would dress in their best suit if they got invited to a White House dinner to meet the President, and they sure as heck would not be allowed into a White House dinner in flip flops and a tank top. Is not the Lord more important than the President?
All I’m saying is set some standards, and if a person CHOOSES to miss mass because of those standards - if that is what they choose - then good riddence to them, because the Mass is obviously not important to them in the first place.
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westboro
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I cannot help but disagree with you. You seem to want to place the blame and/or responsibility on the people rather than the priests. The ‘people’ do not decide what is printed in the bulletin. That decision is the Pastor’s. The ‘people’ are not allowed to post signs in the vestibule of the church. That decision needs to be approved by the Pastor. ANY definitive action to counter the blatant immodest dress by ‘some’ people needs to be initiated or at least ‘approved’ by the Pastor. That is the way the ‘system’ is set up…therefore that is why the ‘burden’ is squarely on the shoulders of the Pastor!
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Popes_Soldier
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CatholiCommit
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Sure they are not allowed to post signs in the church but it is called a bulletin that could have a simple reminder, I am not placing the blame on anyone, but if I walk into a church and see a woman wearing short shorts I do not turn away but I keep to myself, I should not have to see that. I really think it is disrespectful to God, The Church, The Priest
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Tantum_ergo
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I think that this issue is indeed beginning to be addressed and that in future we are going to see more and more bulletins. Some dioceses (and parishes) will be in the forefront. . .some will be ‘mid range’. . .and some will have, at the very end, to be dragged in ‘kicking and screaming’. . .but we are indeed seeing a ‘return to the sacred’ being emphasized. Part of that ‘sacred’ is the idea that attending Mass is more than just another ‘event’ on our calendar and that ‘dressing for Mass’ involves more than just putting on whatever is ‘most comfortable’ or what makes me look ‘hot’, or ‘cool’, or just ‘me’.
Again, I think that a concommitant issue is that we are also going to see addressed the extreme ‘deconstruction’ of manners, morals, and ‘appropriate behaviors and standards’ for people in all areas of life. For far too long we have let screaming minorities and lazy ‘silent majorities’ dictate to us all manner of ‘garbage’ be ‘permitted’ in the names of ‘free speech’ and ‘freedom of expression’ and ‘egalitarianism’ and most twisted of all, ‘concern for others’ --the idea that anybody who actually tries to imply that there is an ‘appropriate’ style, behavior, or standard in a given situation is bigoted, intolerant, and hateful in that he/she is trying to ‘exalt themselves’ (usually over some ‘poor person’ who would NEVER be able to act, or dress, or behavior in 'such a way that is so outside their normal experience).
To which I say “Balderdash”. . . that last is actually a stereotyping of the poor that ‘assumes’ that the poor are incapable of ‘learning’ or ‘achieving’ anything themselves due to their being poor. Circular logic of the worst kind.
Again, I think that a concommitant issue is that we are also going to see addressed the extreme ‘deconstruction’ of manners, morals, and ‘appropriate behaviors and standards’ for people in all areas of life. For far too long we have let screaming minorities and lazy ‘silent majorities’ dictate to us all manner of ‘garbage’ be ‘permitted’ in the names of ‘free speech’ and ‘freedom of expression’ and ‘egalitarianism’ and most twisted of all, ‘concern for others’ --the idea that anybody who actually tries to imply that there is an ‘appropriate’ style, behavior, or standard in a given situation is bigoted, intolerant, and hateful in that he/she is trying to ‘exalt themselves’ (usually over some ‘poor person’ who would NEVER be able to act, or dress, or behavior in 'such a way that is so outside their normal experience).
To which I say “Balderdash”. . . that last is actually a stereotyping of the poor that ‘assumes’ that the poor are incapable of ‘learning’ or ‘achieving’ anything themselves due to their being poor. Circular logic of the worst kind.
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ibkc
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Thank you so much for saying this. That sentiment has cropped up multiple times here, and it is extremely offensive.
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Popes_Soldier
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Yup.
“Poor” does NOT equal “Dumb”.
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“Poor” does NOT equal “Dumb”.
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ellammcg
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I will assume that dress “codes” (as far as modesty and such are concerned) were enforced more strictly in the 60’s than now. So if this is true…
then shouldn’t church attendance actually be rising as standards of all sorts including appearance are dropped? Using more “liberal” thought processes, more of us should be at church every Sunday since we are no longer required to dress up or even at all really.
religioustolerance.org/rel_rate.htm
then shouldn’t church attendance actually be rising as standards of all sorts including appearance are dropped? Using more “liberal” thought processes, more of us should be at church every Sunday since we are no longer required to dress up or even at all really.
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Popes_Soldier
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Actually, there were no need for codes then, because people had a little common sense on how to dress for church, and filthy excuses for “fashions” were not popular then.
I have not heard the term “My Sunday Best” since I was a kid. My parents bought me “Sunday” clothes strictly for Sunday. Who does that now?
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Neil_Anthony
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How would I decide which of my clothes is my “sunday best”?
What if my best shirt and my best pants don’t match? Do I still wear them together since they are my “sunday best”?
Does best mean most stylish, most expensive, most fashionable, best material, or the clothes that flatter me the most?
Will the ushers be able to show me how to put on a tie? I wasn’t taught that in catechism class.
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betra2000
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I know that at the Mass on Sunday, I was appauled 
by what I saw. Cleavage was being seen and really short skirts. I just think that this is innapropriate at Mass. This was during the Spanish mass (I am bi lingual and occasionally go to this mass as it is later in the day). I just couldnt believe it. I dont know about you, but sometimes the people are preoccupied with this and miss the whole mass all together. These are young people with their parents. I would NEVER let my young children dress like this at home let alone Mass.
Just my oppinion!!
by what I saw. Cleavage was being seen and really short skirts. I just think that this is innapropriate at Mass. This was during the Spanish mass (I am bi lingual and occasionally go to this mass as it is later in the day). I just couldnt believe it. I dont know about you, but sometimes the people are preoccupied with this and miss the whole mass all together. These are young people with their parents. I would NEVER let my young children dress like this at home let alone Mass.Just my oppinion!!
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Popes_Soldier
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Well, if you can’t figure out what your Sunday Best is, why don’t you go buy some Sunday best !!! Then you’ll know. <>
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mammallama
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IMO the biggest problem is when females wear Provocative Clothing!!!That’s a dual issue.First it’s disrespectful of Our Lord and Second it leads some men to lustful thoughts.
I’d like to see this issue dealt with immediately!!
Any comments men???
I’d like to see this issue dealt with immediately!!
Any comments men???
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