Should We Ask My In-Laws to Pay For This?

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Sure because when someone doesn’t have the money to do something RIGHT NOW it will never get done.

That loud thud was the sound of my eyes rolling. :rolleyes:
This is a safety issue…put off for many months…sorry you people think telling the truth is “rude.”
 
I know it’s probably just that I’m too lazy to put the work in to understand your meaning, but I would be incredibly appreciative if you would take the time to explain, with all Christian charity, exactly what you mean by this comment.
It’s self explanatory .
 
I know it’s probably just that I’m too lazy to put the work in to understand your meaning, but I would be incredibly appreciative if you would take the time to explain, with all Christian charity, exactly what you mean by this comment.
I’ll help truetofaith in case they’re too busy to explain. I see three options:
  1. You’re going to be broke forever and will never have two dimes to rub together. So just give up.
  2. You’re lazy.
  3. You’re lazy and you’re going to be broke forever. So just give up.
I don’t see that any edifying or encouraging interpretation is possible.

Truetofaith, did I get that right?
 
The OP has been putting this door repair off for almost a year. I doubt it will ever get fixed!
By your logic, people who have never been to Church or been the gym never will. And even if she never has another car repair in her life, whose business is it besides hers and her husbands?

She simply asked if there was any responsibility on the part of her in-laws, not for a lecture about finance or procrastination. Any other commentary (other than scenarios involving riding around with the door wide open, of course) has no real place.
This is a safety issue…put off for many months…sorry you people think telling the truth is “rude.”
How do you know it is a safety issue? What specifically is broken with the locking mechanism? Does it still latch securely, and simply not lock? Or it close securely, but not release when the handle is used?

And frankly, we all want the best for one another, but why would anyone here care what she did? It’s her and her family’s life. It’s a car repair we have vague information on.

Let’s maintain perspective. She asked about a door handle in need of repair and who is responsible; she didn’t come here asking for advice on how best to strap her children to the hood of her 1975 Buick Regal so as to save money on carseats.
 
It’s self explanatory .
That’s what I figured.

Note, as I explained in the OP: the door worked until a few weeks ago, it just could not be opened manually from the outside. It could be operated manually from the inside and using the automatic opener from inside or outside the vehicle.

The issue as it is now, with the door completely inoperable, has only been an issue for a few weeks, and since then we’ve had a baby.

As I see it, there is exactly no point to your comment besides an attempt to shame me for being lazy, I guess. I don’t see that there’s a point to doing so except to soothe your own ego, but at the very least get your facts straight first.
 
This is a safety issue…put off for many months…sorry you people think telling the truth is “rude.”
Wait–another poster was telling us that minivans only had one sliding door up until relatively recently and so needing a second sliding door was extravagant.

Only one of you guys can be right–either it’s an extravagance or a safety issue.

If it’s an urgent safety issue, it’s quite reasonable to ask family for help.
 
By your logic, people who have never been to Church or been the gym never will. And even if she never has another car repair in her life, whose business is it besides hers and her husbands?

She simply asked if there was any responsibility on the part of her in-laws, not for a lecture about finance or procrastination. Any other commentary (other than scenarios invloving riding around with the door wide open, of course) has no real place.
I forgot to tell you yesterday that I found that comment absolutely hilarious. Thanks for the laugh! 👍
 
That’s what I figured.

Note, as I explained in the OP: the door worked until a few weeks ago, it just could not be opened manually from the outside. It could be operated manually from the inside and using the automatic opener from inside or outside the vehicle.

The issue as it is now, with the door completely inoperable, has only been an issue for a few weeks, and since then we’ve had a baby.

As I see it, there is exactly no point to your comment besides an attempt to shame me for being lazy, I guess. I don’t see that there’s a point to doing so except to soothe your own ego, but at the very least get your facts straight first.
OK, I didn’t mean you were lazy…I just feel you don’t see the importance of this repair and neither does your husband. You are taking care of other expenses but hoping your in-laws will soon pay for the car door.
 
OK, I didn’t mean you were lazy…I just feel you don’t see the importance of this repair and neither does your husband. You are taking care of other expenses but hoping your in-laws will soon pay for the car door.
Yes, non-essential car repairs are not prioritized over food and having a place to live.

The door’s recent change from operable to inoperable has moved it up quite a few slots in the priority chain.
 
OK, I didn’t mean you were lazy…I just feel you don’t see the importance of this repair and neither does your husband. You are taking care of other expenses but hoping your in-laws will soon pay for the car door.
Although you are getting beat on here, I totally agree with you.
 
Although you are getting beat on here, I totally agree with you.
So maybe one of you can explain if this is an essential safety issue or a frivolous luxury as previously suggested? If it is a safety issue then all the more reason to ask for assistance in paying for it.

I’m seriously going to take a hostage one day here.
 
Although you are getting beat on here, I totally agree with you.
Thank you, maryjk…but we are in the minority here. It’s an emotional situation, & it appears that I have no compassion for the OP.
I know she has many physical & financial problems but the door is important.

How about a yes or no for the question :

"Should We Ask My In-Laws to Pay For This?

At this point, I say…YES !
 
So maybe one of you can explain if this is an essential safety issue or a frivolous luxury as previously suggested? If it is a safety issue then all the more reason to ask for assistance in paying for it.

I’m seriously going to take a hostage one day here.
How could anyone know if it is a safety issue, without seeing the door and diagnosing it? Not everything broken is a safety issue. Frugality, fixed incomes, and reality will demonstrate that. It is easy to say “you should just do this…” when you have no insight into whether someone can actually do that in their situation. I remember my mother driving around (and picking me up from school) with her muffler dragging hanging off the underside of the car. It made a horrendous sound, but she literally had no money for repair it at the time. Eventually things turn, and you can repair it when they do.

I am all for prioritizing my family’s safety over other things, but no one knows there is a safety issue. It seemed to be more of an issue of a door being a pain in the neck (and back) to deal with.
 
So maybe one of you can explain if this is an essential safety issue or a frivolous luxury as previously suggested? If it is a safety issue then all the more reason to ask for assistance in paying for it.

I’m seriously going to take a hostage one day here.
Since I am not using the door or the van, and I’ve never owned a van, it isn’t up to me if it is a safety issue.

Reading through the posts from the OP, she didn’t consider it a safety issue. Well, at least not until well into the thread. Safety seemed more of an afterthought.

So it seems to me that the OP, herself, doesn’t see it as a safety issue. Or at least didn’t.

It sounded more like an inconvenience when the thread started.
 
How could anyone know if it is a safety issue, without seeing the door and diagnosing it? Not everything broken is a safety issue. Frugality, fixed incomes, and reality will demonstrate that. It is easy to say “you should just do this…” when you have no insight into whether someone can actually do that in their situation. I remember my mother driving around (and picking me up from school) with her muffler dragging hanging off the underside of the car. It made a horrendous sound, but she literally had no money for repair it at the time. Eventually things turn, and you can repair it when they do.

I am all for prioritizing my family’s safety over other things, but no one knows there is a safety issue. It seemed to be more of an issue of a door being a pain in the neck (and back) to deal with.
A muffler dragging on the ground is really a safety hazard…it could break off & cause a car behind to swerve & have an accident.
 
A muffler dragging on the ground is really a safety hazard…it could break off & cause a car behind to swerve & have an accident.
Meh, where were you in 1986 when I I’d blush every time mom would roll up clanging her muffler from miles away to pick me up in frony of my middle school?

Yeah, I am not defending certain types of events in terms of safety, merely saying no one can honestly say whether or not something as described is a safety issue, nor was that the question asked.
 
Thank you, maryjk…but we are in the minority here. It’s an emotional situation, & it appears that I have no compassion for the OP.
I know she has many physical & financial problems but the door is important.

How about a yes or no for the question :

"Should We Ask My In-Laws to Pay For This?

At this point, I say…YES !
Well, the OP may have gotten the impression that you had no compassion for her when you said that she must be avoiding fixing the door in order to buy, and I quote, “cell phones, I-pads & big screen TVs,” rather than assuming the best of her, which is true–i.e., that finances are sufficiently tight that she’s not using toilet paper, much less buying big-ticket luxury items. At the same time, you implied that she doesn’t work (“that’s what we work and save money for.”) or save money, when actually, until she was really late in pregnancy she was caring for numerous kids in her house in order to earn more money while being a SAHM and does all the money-saving stuff I enumerated in the earlier post.

When a number of us called you and others on that attitude, the general turn of the conversation became simultaneously to attack her for wanting the luxury item of a second minivan door and to attack her for not fixing such an urgent safety issue ASAP–never mind that it did work until a few weeks ago, and as the OP pointed out, once it stopped actually working it became a rather higher priority. It’s only been broken like this for a few weeks, and was working acceptably until that point. If you’ve ever had kids yourself (I have no idea if you’re married, male, or female–this is not a snarky comment), you may be aware that the first few postpartum weeks (and the OP is only a couple of weeks PP) are both intense and busy, to say the least. Repairs for things that aren’t going to actively catch fire or explode go rather further down the list than trying to get what little sleep you can, recovering from labor, and figuring out breastfeeding all over again with a new person while chasing a toddler and preschooler.

She asked a reasonable question, and agreed with the majority of the responses–i.e., that she shouldn’t ask. What she objected to was being attacked on all fronts: don’t have kids unless you can afford every penny of every expense that comes up immediately, but have as many kids as you possibly can; this is an urgent safety issue and she’s a neglectful parent for not fixing it, but she’s also a Suzy Soccermom driving a “brand-new” (no, it isn’t) minivan for which she should be grateful, and she must not be grateful if she’s wanting the second door, which is obviously nothing but a gross capitalistic luxury, fixed; she must be spending money on big-ticket items while spending the family’s money freely to maintain her upscale lifestyle, but she should give up the job that brings in extra money because a second car itself, much less central heat in her house, is a luxury for which she should be ashamed.

And people wonder why moms are more prone to postpartum depression than they were in the past, or why they don’t feel supported by the church, or why women are less interested in having big families now than they were. Shockingly, when, as a mom, you’re attacked at every turn no matter what you do by the very people who are supposed to support you, you feel less and less like putting yourself in a situation in which you know you’re going to get jumped over and over and over again.
 
A muffler dragging on the ground is really a safety hazard…it could break off & cause a car behind to swerve & have an accident.
Ah, I see. In that case, Max’s mom should have waved a magic wand, and presto! The money would appear to fix it!

Seriously, it’s amazing how many people just don’t know what it’s like to be hard up. “It’s horrible that you didn’t fix X!” “Well, it was that or pay the rent, and I prioritized my kid having a roof over his head.” “That’s YOUR fault for not having a better job!” “Right, well, that may or may not be the case, but it won’t get the muffler fixed, now will it?” “You lazy, selfish person!”

How is this productive, again?
 
Since I am not using the door or the van, and I’ve never owned a van, it isn’t up to me if it is a safety issue.

Reading through the posts from the OP, she didn’t consider it a safety issue. Well, at least not until well into the thread. Safety seemed more of an afterthought.

So it seems to me that the OP, herself, doesn’t see it as a safety issue. Or at least didn’t.

It sounded more like an inconvenience when the thread started.
Probably because it was an inconvenience until it became a safety issue. Needing to hit a button on the driver’s door to open a back door is rather more an inconvenience than not being able to open the door at all, which is how it’s been for only a few weeks.
 
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