Should we be allowed to drink from the cup too?

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Quite an interesting take on the Eucharist. Can you demonstrate in the text where Holy Orders were conferred, or that they were commissioned at that time to be apostles? Can you explain why Judas, who was not commissioned as an apostle was present at the supper?
 
I think you should start another thread to discuss this issue. It’s a bit off topic here.

Suffice it to say, the Catholic Church gave you the Bible… she and she alone interprets it correctly. We are commanded to hold on to the traditions handed down to us by both word of mouth and letter (2 Thess 2:15), we are reminded that no scripture is of private interpretation (2 Pet 1:20), and finally that the Church is the “pillar and foundation of truth” (1 Tim 3:15). Catholics do not subscribe to the novel Protestant doctrine, ironically not found anywhere in scripture, of “sola scriptura”.
 
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an you demonstrate in the text where Holy Orders were conferred, or that they were commissioned at that time to be apostles?
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4 Q: When did Jesus Christ institute the Sacerdotal Order?
A: Jesus Christ instituted the Sacerdotal Order at the Last Supper when he conferred on the Apostles and their successors the power of consecrating the Blessed Eucharist. Then on the day of His resurrection He conferred on them the power of remitting and retaining sin, thus constituting them the first Priests of the New Law in all the fullness of their power.

http://www.catholicbook.com/AgredaCD/PiusX/psacr-o.htm

Q. On Holy Thursday, by what act and/or word did Jesus institute holy orders?

A. Here is a reply from Father Francis Hoffman, J.C.D.:

When Jesus gave the order, “Do this in memory of me” (Lk 22:19), he instituted the Sacrament of Holy Orders.
https://www.osv.com/Article/TabId/493/ArtMID/13569/ArticleID/17208/Institution-of-Holy-Orders.aspx

The apostles were ordained by Jesus at the Last Supper so that others could share in his priesthood
https://www.lexingtoncatholic.org/sacraments/holy-orders

Judas left early.
 
You receive Jesus in His Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity through either the host or the wine so you do not need both. Most parishes have both offered but I know for daily mass, unless there is a fairly large crowd (like 10-15 people) the cup isn’t offered.
 
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I see that your response did not even address the texts which demonstrate the Judas was at the meal and that here was no such ordination that occurred during the last supper. Are you admitting then that this is a tradition not derived from sacred scripture but from other sources such as the 3rd Century writings in response to the issue of Donatism?
 
The ordination took place while Jesus washed their feet before the meal. Judas was present. Please don’t continue the derailment any further, but we’ll be happy to discuss separately in a new thread.
 
Also the extraordinary minister according to the USCCCB rule thiste kindly posted.
 
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Communicants (that includes EMHC’s) are not permitted self intinction. Maybe you are confusing EMHCs being allowed to distribute both species.
 
Yes, that’s probably what happened. I misread the passage. I was thinking that EMHCs were allow to intinct for communicants. I did not think that EMHCs were allowed to self-intinct, though.

Thank you for your wise guidance.
 
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The ordination took place while Jesus washed their feet before the meal. Judas was present. Please don’t continue the derailment any further, but we’ll be happy to discuss separately in a new thread.
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I didn’t bring it up. Brendan did as justification for deviating from the institution of the Lord’s Supper. I am well within the bounds of this community to challenge someone on unsupported claims brought up within the context of a conversation. Feel free to open a thread though. I would be interested in hearing justification.
 
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I saw at least 30 people drink from the cup the other night. I personally couldn’t do it. They did wipe the outside of the rim in between, but I can’t help thinking about backwash flowing down into the cup.
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Investigation has actually manage to calculate the number of verified cases of illness from this ion the Catholic and Orthodox churches for the period 33 AD to 2018 AD.

The Toal number of cases . . .

. . . . is zero,

Even without His Presence, you’re talking about a high alcohol acidic wine held int heavy metals . . .

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The “only apostles heard the command to drink at the Last Supper” is off base:
Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him. John 6:53-56
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Not that anyone has ro fulfill this command literally. One species is enough to give all, as if God could be divided into two!
 
I like to receive both the Body and the Blood, but I also worry about germs, not from the Precious Blood, but from the rim of the chalice. And also from any “backwash.” What an awful thought! So, I have been drinking from the chalice from early summer through, say, November. Now we are into cold and flu season, so I’m “host only” till close to the beginning of May. Course, the concept of “backwash” may have me rethinking it before then.
 
In another thread here at CAF when discussing drinking from the cup, someone made a comment that when they went to drink from the cup a partially chewed communion host floated into their mouth. After that, I have not been able to drink from the cup.

My personal opinion would be, there are germs out there all year long, not just at flu season.

When receiving the host, we receive the body, blood, soul and divinity. We receive all of Him.
 
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In another thread here at CAF when discussing drinking from the cup, someone made a comment that when they went to drink from the cup a partially chewed communion host floated into their mouth. After that, I have not been able to drink from the cup.
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This is an incorrect assumption in all likelihood. The priest adds a piece of host (NOT CHEWED) to the main chalice just before distribution of communion begins (during the Agnus Dei). This concomitance is representative of the resurrection, the body and blood reunited. It’s part of our theology as to why only one form is sufficient for communion.
 
Cor_ad_Cor said:
This is an incorrect assumption in all likelihood. The priest adds a piece of host (NOT CHEWED) to the main chalice just before distribution of communion begins (during the Agnus Dei)
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Thank you for the clarification. That is good to know.
 
This is not at all true.

The receiving of the cup by the laity was, indeed, common up until the middle ages. One of the reasons it was stopped was to impress on the laity that the Host was Body, Blood, Soul & Divinity as was the cup, and one was not getting “less” if they didn’t receive both. (The heresy of Utraquism).
 
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