Should women be ordained?

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Looking to the Blessed Virgin Mother as an example, we see that a woman’s great power is in her seeming lack of power; it is the meek and humble young girl who is given the power to defeat the proud and raging Satan through her obedience to God’s will. Mary became the greatest fully human, fully mortal warrior against evil ever to walk the face of the Earth, because God found favor with her and she magnified only Him, not herself.
The priesthood should not be viewed by women as a symbol of power to aspire to. We all have our power from God, as God wills it, and nothing more.
 
Personally, I can see benefits of women priest or decons. A religious expert that girls are more comfortable talking to than the regular male priest. Also, isn’t there a shortage of priest? It seems to me that women would be a good resource for more priests. And I know what you all or going to say, so you don’t actually have to say it. I just felt like giving my opnion.
 
The vernacular mass was 2000 years in coming
This rule to change too
 
For heavens sake! YES YES YES!
My one ambition in life before I die, is to see a 9th month pregnant-with-twins “CELIBATE” priestess say THIS IS MY BODY! …thru a microphone.
 
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TNT:
For heavens sake! YES YES YES!
My one ambition in life before I die, is to see a 9th month pregnant-with-twins “CELIBATE” priestess say THIS IS MY BODY! …thru a microphone.
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Excellent point TNT, Yes “this is my body” are the words of the male Christ. No one knows why God incarnated as a male but as God is GOD there is a good reason for doing so. The last two posts I think were written just to incite 👍
 
I couldn’t answer this because I think that woman’s ordination is impossible.
 
Well He had to choose one sex or another
That could have been His reason
Hermaphrodites being rare and all that

And in His time and place He could do things as a male that would help His mission that he couldn’t do as a female (the Levant is still not the most hospitable place for women after all)

But what has that got to do with the 21st century?
 
Should Women be Ordained?..No!..For 3 reasons.

1.Jesus said so.
2. The Church said so.
3. John Paul II said so.

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I think you need to be careful about overemphasizing the fact that the priesthood is not about power. While some people need to hear it, you’re also probably speaking to some women who honestly feel a call to the priesthood. They know that it’s not about power, and they (albeit mistakenly) truly believe that this is a call that their beloved placed in their hearts. We need to approach it with a bit of compassion and humility. My 2 cents…

jp2fan
 
The Lord is not calling any female to the priesthood. That some may “feel” that only means they need an orthodox spiritual director.
 
No. Women should not be ordained Deacons or Priests because Christ only had male Apostles.

Albert
 
Looks like 5 people in the poll need to read Ordinatio Sacerdotalis.
 
Defensor Fidei:
Looks like 5 people in the poll need to read Ordinatio Sacerdotalis.
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Ordinatio Sacerdotalis only applies to priestly ordination. The matter of females being ordained to the permanent diaconate has not been definitively settled by the magisterium. (In fact, the Canon Law Society of America has called for the U.S. bishops to apply to the Vatican for a dispensation from the canon law which currently prohibits females from such ordination.)
 
From the commentary by the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith on the Declaration Inter Insigniores:
In some writers of the Middle Ages however there was a certain hesitancy, reported by St. Bonaventure without adopting it himself and noted also by Joannes Teutonicus in his gloss on Caus. 27, q. 1, c. 23. This hesitancy stemmed from the knowledge that in the past there had been deaconesses: had they received true sacramental ordination? This problem has been brought up again very recently.
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It was by no means unknown to the seventeenth and eighteenth century theologians, who had an excellent knowledge of the history of literature. In any case, it is a question that must be taken up fully by direct study of the texts, without preconceived ideas; hence the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has judged that it should be kept for the future and not touched upon in the present document.
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Until the magisterium rules definitively on this matter, faithful Catholics can take either side of the issue of the future possiblity of ordaining women to the permanent diaconate.
 
Steve Andersen:
The vernacular mass was 2000 years in coming
This rule to change too
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No, the Mass started out in the vernacular, and among Eastern rites, continued on in the vernacular. And as a matter of fact, at one point after the Church in the Roman rite elected for Latin, there was an attempt, for a period of time, to return to the Greek (which was the language the Gospels were written in).

There is a difference between rules and doctrine. This is a doctrinal issue, unlike the vernacular, which is simply a rule.
 
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Catholic2003:
From the commentary by the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith on the Declaration Inter Insigniores:

Until the magisterium rules definitively on this matter, faithful Catholics can take either side of the issue of the future possiblity of ordaining women to the permanent diaconate.
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Do you honestly think that the Vatican will allow female ordination, of any sort?
 
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Do you honestly think that the Vatican will allow female ordination, of any sort?
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I don’t see it happening under Pope John Paul II. My psychic abilities don’t extend to the next pope.

Didn’t some Eastern Orthodox church recently start ordaining deaconesses? I’m sure if they wanted to rejoin the Catholic Church, then they would be allowed to continue that practice.
 
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Catholic2003:
I don’t see it happening under Pope John Paul II. My psychic abilities don’t extend to the next pope.

Didn’t some Eastern Orthodox church recently start ordaining deaconesses? I’m sure if they wanted to rejoin the Catholic Church, then they would be allowed to continue that practice.
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Do you have a link?

Is it not true that a subcommitee of the Canon Law society is responsible for this agitating about ordaining female deacons?
 
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