Should women be ordained?

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Albert Kopsho:
No. Women should not be ordained Deacons or Priests because Christ only had male Apostles.Albert
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So I wonder why all priests aren’t required to be practicing Jews since Christ only chose Jews…
 
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Do you have a link?
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Here.
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Is it not true that a subcommitee of the Canon Law society is responsible for this agitating about ordaining female deacons?
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The following resolution was passed at the 1992 annual meeting of the CLSA:
Whereas both the 1976 Declaration Inter Insigniores and its commentary published by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith spoke of the need to study the ordination of women to the diaconate; and
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Whereas this need is also evident in the United States, as was even expressed in an earlier NCCB draft of the pastoral letter on women’s concerns which recommended a study of the possibility of the ordination of women to the diaconate;
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Be it resolved that the Board of Governers commission a study of the canonical implications of ordaining women to the permanent diaconate and report to the membership at the 1994 Convention of the Society.
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An ad hoc committee was created to perform this study. The report they prepared was actually presented at the 1995 annual meeting of the CLSA.
 
Steve Andersen:
Well He had to choose one sex or another
That could have been His reason
Hermaphrodites being rare and all that

And in His time and place He could do things as a male that would help His mission that he couldn’t do as a female (the Levant is still not the most hospitable place for women after all)

But what has that got to do with the 21st century?
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God knew at creation, knowing all things, that He would incarnate to save man. At that time He chose to create us with two sexes. At that time He could have chosen to create man with one sex.

Having chosen two sexes with quite different capabilites, He chose to incarnate as male. We cannot know all the reasons but He then chose only male apostles when it was common at the time to have both male and female priests, thus going counter cultural in establishing a male priesthood.

For reflections on the pro- con- female ordination by ordained women priestesses, see Ordaining Women: Two Views at firstthings.com/ftissues/ft0304/articles/ferrarawilson.html

For theological justification for an all male priesthood see Women, Ordination, and Angels at firstthings.com/ftissues/ft9304/articles/novak.html
 
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patg:
So I wonder why all priests aren’t required to be practicing Jews since Christ only chose Jews…
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We Catholics all have Jewish roots.

Strange that so far all those in favor are Catholic, or about to be (two did not name their religion).
 
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patg:
So I wonder why all priests aren’t required to be practicing Jews since Christ only chose Jews…
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Because if they were “practicing Jews” they wouldn’t be Catholic Christians, and something tells me one must be a Catholic Christian in order to be a Catholic priest…
 
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Catholic2003:
I don’t see it happening under Pope John Paul II. My psychic abilities don’t extend to the next pope.

Didn’t some Eastern Orthodox church recently start ordaining deaconesses? I’m sure if they wanted to rejoin the Catholic Church, then they would be allowed to continue that practice.
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Proof?
 
Why not-I am sure that our parents would have keeled over if you told them in 40 years you would see the following:
  • Communion in the hand
  • Altar rails ripped out and people standing in line to receive Communion
  • Saints and statues removed-tabernacle moved to the side
  • Kneelers gone
  • Eucharistic Ministers not only performing readings and most of the mass, but handing out communion
  • People dressing causal and in shorts
  • Altar girls
  • The Novus Ordo Mass
  • The removal of the veil for woman-a tradition passed down from our Jewish heritiage and Our Lady (ever see a picture of Our Lady without her head covered?)
  • Guitars and other instruments at mass replacing the organ
  • Priests dressed without cassocks and vestments-wearing something that I have no idea what it really symbolizes.
  • Nuns and Sisters dressed like your Aunt Molly
  • Sacraments revised as well as all of the wordings and prayers
  • Crucifixes removed -replaced with the “risen Christ”
  • Homosexuality not only prevalent but actually accepted as the norm in the church and many seminaries
  • Churches closing one after the other with attendance down to 15%
  • New church’s that resemble spaceships or something of the sort
  • The altar moved forward-and the “Sacrifice” replaced by “The Lords Supper”.
  • Talking during Mass, cellphones, etc
  • Genuflecting gone-reverence gone
  • Non Catholics received Our Lords Body
  • Drinking out of the Chalice-spilling our Lords precious blood
With all of these changes, it is, to many returning Catholics, as I have seen on this thread and from family experience, almost a totally different religion.

So I ask you-Why not Woman Priests. If all of this would have seemed totally crazy to imagine 10, 20 or 30 Years ago-I can easily imagine and accept female Priests. For that matter the push is on in the seminaries to start ordaining them. The Deaconite Program right here in my own Diocese is run by a Nun (dressed like Aunt Molly by the way) and she is pushing hard for female ordination and she teaches all of the RCIA teachers and students that it should be the accepted norm so get ready for it, many seminarians are not ordained if they do not go along with this teaching. IT is a fact of life
 
I don’t see it happening under Pope John Paul II. My psychic abilities don’t extend to the next pope.
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Its extremely unlikely under John Paul II’s successor either. Just about all of the cardinals were appointed by him, and the current pope has put a lot of emphasis on the idea of an all-male priesthood.

I would doubt that the next pope would do an about-face on the issue, just on the basis that their mentor opposed it to such a large degree.
 
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Kielbasi:
Its extremely unlikely under John Paul II’s successor either. Just about all of the cardinals were appointed by him, and the current pope has put a lot of emphasis on the idea of an all-male priesthood.

I would doubt that the next pope would do an about-face on the issue, just on the basis that their mentor opposed it to such a large degree.
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Ratzinger!!?:clapping: 👍 :love:
 
Never,never,never!!
Can you imagine…Mother Amber or Mother Tiffany? I gag.
:mad:
 
BulldogCath said:
Why not-I am sure that our parents would have keeled over if you told them in 40 years you would see the following:
  • Communion in the hand
  • Altar rails ripped out and people standing in line to receive Communion
  • Saints and statues removed-tabernacle moved to the side
  • Kneelers gone
  • Eucharistic Ministers not only performing readings and most of the mass, but handing out communion
  • People dressing causal and in shorts
  • Altar girls
  • The Novus Ordo Mass
  • The removal of the veil for woman-a tradition passed down from our Jewish heritiage and Our Lady (ever see a picture of Our Lady without her head covered?)
  • Guitars and other instruments at mass replacing the organ
  • Priests dressed without cassocks and vestments-wearing something that I have no idea what it really symbolizes.
  • Nuns and Sisters dressed like your Aunt Molly
  • Sacraments revised as well as all of the wordings and prayers
  • Crucifixes removed -replaced with the “risen Christ”
  • Homosexuality not only prevalent but actually accepted as the norm in the church and many seminaries
  • Churches closing one after the other with attendance down to 15%
  • New church’s that resemble spaceships or something of the sort
  • The altar moved forward-and the “Sacrifice” replaced by “The Lords Supper”.
  • Talking during Mass, cellphones, etc
  • Genuflecting gone-reverence gone
  • Non Catholics received Our Lords Body
  • Drinking out of the Chalice-spilling our Lords precious blood
With all of these changes, it is, to many returning Catholics, as I have seen on this thread and from family experience, almost a totally different religion.
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Excellent Points, BulldogCath!! I am against the ordination of women, but as you mentioned, who would have thought all those years ago, we would be hit in the face, with homosexual priests,
and feminist nuns, our children being abused by Priests, Our lord taken to a side room etc. The devil is hard at work in our Church.

:blessyou:
Annie
 
:bigyikes: The female pastoral assistants in the Diocese of Rochester, NY have been bucking for the chance to behave like priests the last 20 years. They routinely get up and give homilies while the priests sit and listen. They strut around like they run the parishes. For the most part that is as far as it goes. The one female and priest who crossed the line at the altar table together were excommunicated.

These women and priests have been distructive in that they’ve help contribute to the shortage of priests in the diocese. Who would want to be a priest here?

The worst Holy Thursday I ever experienced was when a female pastoral assistant started her homily by stating that she hoped that someday she would not have to explain to a 10 year old girl why she couldn’t be a priest. The really lame part was that the priest and parishioners just sat there and listened like dopes.
 
I voted “no”. I am sticking with the Pope and his authority. Fr John Corapi also had a good explaination for why women can not ever be ordained as priests. His quick answer was “Jesus did not say so.” The longer answer is at the end of his conversion story that the mary foundation has available as a free tape or CD.
 
Binney said:
:bigyikes: The female pastoral assistants in the Diocese of Rochester, NY have been bucking for the chance to behave like priests the last 20 years. They routinely get up and give homilies while the priests sit and listen. They strut around like they run the parishes. For the most part that is as far as it goes. The one female and priest who crossed the line at the altar table together were excommunicated.

These women and priests have been distructive in that they’ve help contribute to the shortage of priests in the diocese. Who would want to be a priest here?

The worst Holy Thursday I ever experienced was when a female pastoral assistant started her homily by stating that she hoped that someday she would not have to explain to a 10 year old girl why she couldn’t be a priest. The really lame part was that the priest and parishioners just sat there and listened like dopes.
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I live there and no what you mean. The radical left marches on…
 
Catholic2003 said:
Here.

The following resolution was passed at the 1992 annual meeting of the CLSA:

An ad hoc committee was created to perform this study. The report they prepared was actually presented at the 1995 annual meeting of the CLSA.
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Well, all I can say about the link is that when one is not in full communion with Rome, anything can happen.

The Canon Law Society is not the magisterium.
 
Nota Bene:
Because if they were “practicing Jews” they wouldn’t be Catholic Christians, and something tells me one must be a Catholic Christian in order to be a Catholic priest…
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But Christ chose Jews, which shows how illogical the “Christ chose men” argument is.
 
BulldogCath said:
Why not-I am sure that our parents would have keeled over if you told them in 40 years you would see the following:
  • Communion in the hand
  • Altar rails ripped out and people standing in line to receive Communion
  • Saints and statues removed-tabernacle moved to the side
  • Kneelers gone
  • Eucharistic Ministers not only performing readings and most of the mass, but handing out communion
  • People dressing causal and in shorts
  • Altar girls
  • The Novus Ordo Mass
  • The removal of the veil for woman-a tradition passed down from our Jewish heritiage and Our Lady (ever see a picture of Our Lady without her head covered?)
  • Guitars and other instruments at mass replacing the organ
  • Priests dressed without cassocks and vestments-wearing something that I have no idea what it really symbolizes.
  • Nuns and Sisters dressed like your Aunt Molly
  • Sacraments revised as well as all of the wordings and prayers
  • Crucifixes removed -replaced with the “risen Christ”
  • Homosexuality not only prevalent but actually accepted as the norm in the church and many seminaries
  • Churches closing one after the other with attendance down to 15%
  • New church’s that resemble spaceships or something of the sort
  • The altar moved forward-and the “Sacrifice” replaced by “The Lords Supper”.
  • Talking during Mass, cellphones, etc
  • Genuflecting gone-reverence gone
  • Non Catholics received Our Lords Body
  • Drinking out of the Chalice-spilling our Lords precious blood
With all of these changes, it is, to many returning Catholics, as I have seen on this thread and from family experience, almost a totally different religion.

So I ask you-Why not Woman Priests. If all of this would have seemed totally crazy to imagine 10, 20 or 30 Years ago-I can easily imagine and accept female Priests. For that matter the push is on in the seminaries to start ordaining them. The Deaconite Program right here in my own Diocese is run by a Nun (dressed like Aunt Molly by the way) and she is pushing hard for female ordination and she teaches all of the RCIA teachers and students that it should be the accepted norm so get ready for it, many seminarians are not ordained if they do not go along with this teaching. IT is a fact of life
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I am sooooo thankful that our parish is extremely traditional. Our priest really pushes for the traditional ways, he’s even having all the first communicants receive it on the tongue. He said he would have gotten a rail if he could have gotten away with it.
 
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