Should you go to mass if not receiving?

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CMatt25 said:
What difference does it make to receive grace simply by being there or whether or not a person adds another mortal sin? The grace is not going to do any good. It only takes one sin considered to be mortal by the Catholic Church to go to hell if unrepented according to the Catholic Church. All the grace you receive just by being there or whether there is 1 mortal sin on a soul or 100, doesn’t change that. If someone misses one Mass their entire lives or has some other sin considered to be mortal by the Catholic Church on their soul, and doesn’t repent it in confession, they’re judged to hell anyway according to the Catholic Church. Whether or not they ever set foot in a Catholic church again. 🤷
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I don’t think you understand grace.

And I apologize to the OP for the divergent paths this thread has taken. 😦
 
johnnyjones said:
If you are a Catholic and believe you are in a state of mortal sin and can not receive communion, should you go to mass?
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In earlier times (middle ages say), it was completely uncommon for people to receive communion every week (never mind every day). Once a month was more common.

Heck, we still have a rule that you must receive communion once a year and that came out of that time period to make sure people would at least do that.
 
IronMIke said:
Wrong sorry, Common error.

If you are divorced and not obtained annullments is just one of many that would eliminate participation in communion/confession.
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Divorced and remarried you mean, not simply divorced, and one can STILL go to confession and be forgiven if one then lives as brother and sister.

Annulments are not ‘Catholic divorce’ but a decree of nullity IS necessary if you would wish to marry another person.
 
IronMIke said:
You must have a more communion friendly Priest than me ;), of course
being divorce with no annulments would disqualify communion.
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This is a common misconception. Being divorced without annullments does not disqualify one from reception of the Eucharist. Simple confession of the divorce fixes this.

Divorce with remarriage without annulments disqualifies one from reception of the Eucharist until this is fixed with annulment and con-validation.
 
Tantum_ergo said:
Divorced and remarried you mean, not simply divorced, and one can STILL go to confession and be forgiven if one then lives as brother and sister.

Annulments are not ‘Catholic divorce’ but a decree of nullity IS necessary if you would wish to marry another person.
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Sure after divorce nullity or annullments required before communion
 
DAML72 said:
I don’t think you understand grace.

And I apologize to the OP for the divergent paths this thread has taken. 😦
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I understand if someone has what Catholics consider to be a mortal sin on their soul and if they’re not ready to confess it, until if and when they are, any grace received by attending Mass doesn’t change the Catholic belief that they are going to hell. Even if they attended Mass everyday for the rest of their lives.
 
IronMIke said:
Sure after divorce nullity or annullments required before communion
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No - numerous posters have reiterated that ‘nullity or anullments’ (which are actually the same thing) are ONLY needed IF you want to remarry. You do NOT need them simply because you are divorced. Many people divorce without ever wanting to remarry.
 
Dear Reader

I read in one of the Secrets and Most Precious Jewels of the HOLY MASS, is that If one goes, it sometimes suffices as an act of perfect contrition. Go, You might just receive the Grace to Repent. Of Course, grab the Priest before MASS if he has the time, or, grab Him after. Then ask If he will adminster you Holy COMMUNION after Confession
 
LilyM said:
No - numerous posters have reiterated that ‘nullity or anullments’ (which are actually the same thing) are ONLY needed IF you want to remarry. You do NOT need them simply because you are divorced. Many people divorce without ever wanting to remarry.
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all well and good, fact of the matter is in this example the person is divorced and thus sacrament broken. Not a light issue.

Do communion and confession if you insist … 😦
 
IronMIke said:
all well and good, fact of the matter is in this example the person is divorced and thus sacrament broken. Not a light issue.

Do communion and confession if you insist … 😦
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Being divorced and living a celibate life does NOT disqualify one from the Sacraments, including Eucharist. Several people have pointed this out to you, and you continue to attempt to drive home an error. Preaching heresy and undermining the Magisterium’s teaching IS a mortal sin that disqualifies you from Communion and in older times would have brought one dangerously close to excommunication. Now think on that for a while.
 
CMatt25 said:
I understand if someone has what Catholics consider to be a mortal sin on their soul and if they’re not ready to confess it, until if and when they are, any grace received by attending Mass doesn’t change the Catholic belief that they are going to hell. Even if they attended Mass everyday for the rest of their lives.
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I’m sorry. I was short and rude in my previous post. To explain my comment - grace is not just forgiveness. Grace, as I am learning that Catholics define the term, can also move us to a deeper relationship with the Lord. I like to think of it as any expression of God’s love for us - his attempts to pull us closer to him (or, sometimes, to let us exercise our own free will in a way that might be divergent but will be a good lesson). So, as someone else said, going to Mass might result in grace being poured upon one’s soul to understand the nature of his or her sin and to feel compelled to confession.
 
mymamamary said:
Dear Reader

I read in one of the Secrets and Most Precious Jewels of the HOLY MASS, is that If one goes, it sometimes suffices as an act of perfect contrition. Go, You might just receive the Grace to Repent. Of Course, grab the Priest before MASS if he has the time, or, grab Him after. Then ask If he will adminster you Holy COMMUNION after Confession
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Correct. That is the only possible way it might help. If it leads one to confession. But if it is His will, a person could be so led otherwise anyway.
 
IronMIke said:
all well and good, fact of the matter is in this example the person is divorced and thus sacrament broken. Not a light issue.

Do communion and confession if you insist … 😦
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Say what? Divorce is a secular legal process that breaks the secular legal bond. It has no impact whatsoever upon the sacramental bond. That is why persons who have gone through a secular divorce need to go through an entirely separate Church process to investigate the sacramental bond - and why some divorced persons are told by the Church that the sacramental bond remains valid and binding in spite of the secular legal divorce.
 
DAML72 said:
I’m sorry. I was short and rude in my previous post. To explain my comment - grace is not just forgiveness. Grace, as I am learning that Catholics define the term, can also move us to a deeper relationship with the Lord. I like to think of it as any expression of God’s love for us - his attempts to pull us closer to him (or, sometimes, to let us exercise our own free will in a way that might be divergent but will be a good lesson). So, as someone else said, going to Mass might result in grace being poured upon one’s soul to understand the nature of his or her sin and to feel compelled to confession.
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Oh don’t worry about it. That’s ok. I didn’t think much at all about it. I’m used to a whole lot worse. We’re fine. But yes it’s possible someone might be compelled. Peace.
 
LilyM said:
Say what? Divorce is a secular legal process that breaks the secular legal bond. It has no impact whatsoever upon the sacramental bond. That is why persons who have gone through a secular divorce need to go through an entirely separate Church process to investigate the sacramental bond - and why some divorced persons are told by the Church that the sacramental bond remains valid and binding in spite of the secular legal divorce.
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Are you kidding, you can’t just walk from a marriage and act like nothing ever happened and oh boy go to communion and confession…sorry
 
When I go to mass and don’ t receive communion because of my sins, I see the entire congregation receive communion which is great. But, from my perspective I have to wonder if I’m the only one not in a state of grace. I’m the only sinner?

I personally believe others are receiving communion but shouldn’t be. Some may say this should not be a concern of mine. They are probably right. It is based on this experience that I decided to post the thread question.

I know mass is an obligation. I really wanted to see if there would be many varying responses because I think many disregard the seriousness of mortal sin and the receiving of the Eucharist.
 
IronMIke said:
Are you kidding, you can’t just walk from a marriage and act like nothing ever happened and oh boy go to communion and confession…sorry
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Right. But if you walk away from your marriage, you may be committing *other *sins, and those would have to be dealt with separately.

However, the mere fact of being divorced does not bar one from the sacraments of Confession and Communion. As someone else pointed out, what about those who are divorced through no fault of their own?
 
johnnyjones said:
When I go to mass and don’ t receive communion because of my sins, I see the entire congregation receive communion which is great. But, from my perspective I have to wonder if I’m the only one not in a state of grace. I’m the only sinner?

I personally believe others are receiving communion but shouldn’t be. Some may say this should not be a concern of mine. They are probably right. It is based on this experience that I decided to post the thread question.

I know mass is an obligation. I really wanted to see if there would be many varying responses because I think many disregard the seriousness of mortal sin and the receiving of the Eucharist.
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Naturally, one cannot judge the state of the souls of others on a particular basis; however, it is true that some receive despite objectively being out of a state of grace. It is very sad, because I think a lot of them do so because everyone else is going up, etc., and that is the sin of wanting the respect of people more than the respect of God (human respect, for short).
 
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