Shouldn't we warn against Mary worship?

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rcwitness said:
Thanks brb3,
I think, in todays terms, everyone knows what the meaning of worship has formally become known as. I realize, in former days, it was ALSO used to signify great reverence, or the like.
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:rotfl: kids are too funny :rotfl:

vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/apost_exhortations/documents/hf_p-vi_exh_19740202_marialis-cultus_en.html
In the sphere of worship this devotion necessarily reflects God’s redemptive plan, in which a special form of veneration is appropriate to the singular place which Mary occupies in that plan.(4)
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vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19641121_lumen-gentium_en.html
66…This cult, as it always existed, although it is altogether singular, differs essentially from the cult of adoration which is offered to the Incarnate Word, as well to the Father and the Holy Spirit, and it is most favorable to it.
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67…Let the faithful remember moreover that true devotion consists neither in sterile or transitory affection, nor in a certain vain credulity, but proceeds from true faith, by which we are led to know the excellence of the Mother of God, and we are moved to a filial love toward our mother and to the imitation of her virtues.
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JM3 said:
You may benefit from reading this.

openlibrary.org/books/OL23374705M/Certain_difficulties_felt_by_Anglicans_in_Catholic_teaching_considered
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JM3,
I am glad that you keep coming to this thread. I think its good. You and I have seemed to clash, and for real reasons. I am so busy and starting to bother my wife with my time spent on this forum. I read some of Vatican’s writtings. I will finish it up tonight. I have some definite thoughts on it, immediately, but do want to finish. I think I can explain my point of view and help to get us both understand each other better. I will reply tonight.

I have heard many things from Cardinal Newman. Mostly through socrates58 blog. You know it probably. Its been a great resource for me. And Dave is a big fan of Newman.

Let me know if you’ll be back here, or if you’d rather I send a personal message. Either way is cool.

Thanks again, really. I look forward to our discussion.
God Bless,
Michael

PS - I meant people keep getting me misunderstood:)
 
JCnMe said:
Personally- until God appoints any of us as the “worship” police…It’s not something to concern yourself with-… I really think everyone should just work on their own relationship with the Blessed Mother…The Father and the Son hold her in the Highest regard- a level of love and respect for her none of us can even hope to duplicate… so I have to ask who are you worried about offending with extra attention for Mary? Certaiinly not her Son or the Father- they started it…:D:thumbsup:
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This!!!..Nailed it! 👍
 
Okay, there is NO reason people should be getting so defensive when asked this question. I agree, people should be advised against this. Do I love Mary? Of course I do! She said yes to God to give birth to the Redeemer and Savior of the world. But I do believe some people take it entirely too far. She is the earthly mother of Jesus Christ. Is George Washington’s mother the mother of the USA? I only practice devotion to the Trinity (out of fear of idolatry). But the point of my post is it is a legitimate question and people need to stop getting defensive.
 
DavidSears said:
Okay, there is NO reason people should be getting so defensive when asked this question. I agree, people should be advised against this. Do I love Mary? Of course I do! She said yes to God to give birth to the Redeemer and Savior of the world. But I do believe some people take it entirely too far. She is the earthly mother of Jesus Christ. Is George Washington’s mother the mother of the USA? I only practice devotion to the Trinity (out of fear of idolatry). But the point of my post is it is a legitimate question and people need to stop getting defensive.
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Let me say first that most of the converts on CAF truly embrace their Catholic Faith. I’m not sure, but I think that part of the problem is that most of these threads warning about Mary worship are started by converts to the Catholic Faith. And they are already struggling to come to terms with their relationship with Mary because of their protestant roots. And then they come on a Catholic forum and tell cradle Catholics that they take their devotion to Mary too far. The way they *(cradle Catholics, of which I’m one), *see it, only God can look into hearts and read them. I love Mary…dearly, I did the St. Louis de Montfort method of consecration to Mary. But I’ll be darned if anyone on here knows me well enough that they could state matter of factly that I worship Mary! Every Thursday I go downtown to St. Alphonsus Shrine and spend an hour before the Blessed Sacrament…where I Worship Jesus…My Lord and my God! Just my :twocents:

Peace, Mark
 
DavidSears said:
Okay, there is NO reason people should be getting so defensive when asked this question. I agree, people should be advised against this. Do I love Mary? Of course I do! She said yes to God to give birth to the Redeemer and Savior of the world. But I do believe some people take it entirely too far. She is the earthly mother of Jesus Christ. Is George Washington’s mother the mother of the USA? I only practice devotion to the Trinity (out of fear of idolatry). But the point of my post is it is a legitimate question and people need to stop getting defensive.
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Mary reigns in heaven with her Son. She is the Queen of heaven.Christ gave her to us,what better way to show our love for Our Lord,than by loving and honoring his mother?
 
rcwitness said:
Let me know if you’ll be back here,
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Yes, I’ll be lurking around. :cool:
Mark121359 said:
Let me say first that most of the converts on CAF truly embrace their Catholic Faith. I’m not sure, but I think that part of the problem is that most of these threads warning about Mary worship are started by converts to the Catholic Faith. And they are already struggling to come to terms with their relationship with Mary because of their protestant roots. And then they come on a Catholic forum and tell cradle Catholics that they take their devotion to Mary too far. The way they *(cradle Catholics, of which I’m one), *see it, only God can look into hearts and read them. I love Mary…dearly, I did the St. Louis de Montfort method of consecration to Mary. But I’ll be darned if anyone on here knows me well enough that they could state matter of factly that I worship Mary! Every Thursday I go downtown to St. Alphonsus Shrine and spend an hour before the Blessed Sacrament…where I Worship Jesus…My Lord and my God! Just my :twocents:

Peace, Mark
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The problem I see is that some are wanting the Church to conform to their understanding of what worship is, instead of learning and accepting the Church’s understanding of worship. They are setting themselves up as an infallible authority and this is what idolatry truly is. The Church uses different definitions of worship given to God and to Mary. To say that there is only one definition for worship is saying that the Church is teaching error and I will not accept that. Period.
 
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