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misterX
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This is site for all of you people who are sick of having the tired old line of “hitler was a christian”. Thrown in their face,By every idiot athiest on yahoo/ message boards answers.org/apologetics/hitquote.html
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ChristopherMich
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Too often, christians are judged as a group, rather than as individuals. Is the person who celebrates the Holy Mass on Sunday, then throughout the week drinks to excess, uses profanity, has premarital or extramarital affairs, still a christian? I think not.
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Pentecost2005
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Interesting quotes. This is why I think it unlikely that Hitler had a last-minute conversion, and therefore likely that he received an eternal reward consistent with how he chose to live his earthly life.
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Pentecost2005
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“I realize that man, in his imperfection, can commit innumerable errors-- but to devote myself deliberately to errors, that is something I cannot do.”
Sounds rather… Nietzschean.
“I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie.”
Indeed. Unlikely that he did.
“It would always be disagreeable for me to go down to posterity as a man who made concessions in this field.”
Well, he certainly did go DOWN, didn’t he?
Interestingly, in Neale Donald Walsch’s books “Conversations with God,” so-called “God” says that “Hitler went to heaven,” and if you can understand THAT, you understand how the universe works.
Cardinal Ratzinger said that God knows how to work with insufficient instruments (so I guess that means that they’re not really insufficient?). It was the CWG books, in fact, that put an end to my atheism. Needless to say, the Holy Spirit didn’t stop there.
Sounds rather… Nietzschean.
“I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie.”
Indeed. Unlikely that he did.
“It would always be disagreeable for me to go down to posterity as a man who made concessions in this field.”
Well, he certainly did go DOWN, didn’t he?
Interestingly, in Neale Donald Walsch’s books “Conversations with God,” so-called “God” says that “Hitler went to heaven,” and if you can understand THAT, you understand how the universe works.
Cardinal Ratzinger said that God knows how to work with insufficient instruments (so I guess that means that they’re not really insufficient?). It was the CWG books, in fact, that put an end to my atheism. Needless to say, the Holy Spirit didn’t stop there.
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vern_humphrey
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First of all, we have to recognize that Hitler didn’t actually kill anyone – he was the head of a government which had a policy of genocide, but didn’t actually DO the killing.
Next, we must understand that MANY people did the actual killing, and many more - -a great many more – cooperated in various ways, from informing on Jews and other victims, to running the trains, to guarding the camps.
Third, we must openly admit that many of these people WERE Christians. Catholic Balts spontaneously killed Jews. Catholic Frenchmen and Italians turned in Jews – in fact, helped round them up. Orthodox Christians served in the various auxillaries and participated in the killing. Lutherans served in the SS and ran the camps.
Finally, we must accept that anti-Semitism was a fact of life in Christianity for well over a thousand years – the Jews were expelled from many nations (Spain and England, for example.) They were confined in ghettos and discriminated againt. There were anti-Jewish riots (pogroms) periodically in much of Europe. Without this anti-semitism, there would have been no Holocaust.
From the age of seven, we Catholics learn to swallow the bitter medicine of our sins. We learn to examine our consciences, and to confess our sins. We must apply this learning to the Holocaust.
We, as individuals, did not kill anyone, nor did we participate in any way. The Church did what it could to alleviate the suffering. But nevertheless, the Holocaust is a stain on Christianity, and it won’t go away if we continue to deny it.
Next, we must understand that MANY people did the actual killing, and many more - -a great many more – cooperated in various ways, from informing on Jews and other victims, to running the trains, to guarding the camps.
Third, we must openly admit that many of these people WERE Christians. Catholic Balts spontaneously killed Jews. Catholic Frenchmen and Italians turned in Jews – in fact, helped round them up. Orthodox Christians served in the various auxillaries and participated in the killing. Lutherans served in the SS and ran the camps.
Finally, we must accept that anti-Semitism was a fact of life in Christianity for well over a thousand years – the Jews were expelled from many nations (Spain and England, for example.) They were confined in ghettos and discriminated againt. There were anti-Jewish riots (pogroms) periodically in much of Europe. Without this anti-semitism, there would have been no Holocaust.
From the age of seven, we Catholics learn to swallow the bitter medicine of our sins. We learn to examine our consciences, and to confess our sins. We must apply this learning to the Holocaust.
We, as individuals, did not kill anyone, nor did we participate in any way. The Church did what it could to alleviate the suffering. But nevertheless, the Holocaust is a stain on Christianity, and it won’t go away if we continue to deny it.
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miguel_delgado
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hola raza!!!
easy answer: If Hitler convert or was a christian it does not matter because he sin and he kill himself, so…DO YOU THINK HE IS IN HEAVEN???
I DONT THINK SO
easy answer: If Hitler convert or was a christian it does not matter because he sin and he kill himself, so…DO YOU THINK HE IS IN HEAVEN???
I DONT THINK SO
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vern_humphrey
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miguel delgado:
Of course Hitler is not in Heaven. But neither are thousands upon thousands of self-professed Catholics, Lutherans, Orthodox and other Christians who helped him in his murderous course.
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