Signs of a lukewarm Catholic?

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Edward_H said:
I think one manifestation of lukewarmness is a shrinking circle of concern, lowering our concern about the salvation others.

“I still have my salvation, you get yours”.

This is a horrendous error.
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That isn’t lukewarmness. That is diabolical.
 
These words of the Holy Father in Gaudete et Exsultate have a bearing on the topic…"Although Jesus’ words may strike us as poetic, they clearly run counter to the way things are usually done in our world. Even if we find Jesus’ message attractive, the world pushes us towards another way of living. The Beatitudes are in no way trite or undemanding, quite the opposite. We can only practise them if the Holy Spirit fills us with his power and frees us from our weakness, our selfishness, our complacency and our pride.

“. Let us listen once more to Jesus, with all the love and respect that the Master deserves. Let us allow his words to unsettle us, to challenge us and to demand a real change in the way we live. Otherwise, holiness will remain no more than an empty word.”
 
Thank you Jesus! Two questions I recently asked You have now been answered on Catholic Forums. A question about lukewarmness and about Blessed Imelda.
 
Thank you dear friend, the only appropriate answer.
When asked such a question, in my opinion it is to first have the answer of the magisterium if it has defined, or a response that has an authority (a saint, a doctor of the Church, a father of the Church, a theologian with recognized authority).
Our opinions are, without doubt, important, but I more confidence of the opinions of those who have the most authority.
 
CD45 said:
Signs of a lukewarm Catholic? Doesn’t attend Mass, makes his or her kids go until they are confirmed to please the grandparents.
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And how are you going to define a “cold” Catholic? because in the apocalypse we speak of lukewarm people as being neither hot nor cold.
 
a “Catholic in name only” is a “cold” Catholic, not a “lukewarm” Catholic.
 
I imagine the cold wouldn’t be Catholic. Or if so, trying to change/sabotage the Faith. When I hear this, I think of the cold as those who hate God. And the hot being those who love Him
 
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he is Catholic, that is to say, he is baptized Catholic and always claims to be a Catholic. A non-Catholic is an atheist, a Muslim etc.
A “cold” Catholic no longer practices his Faith, he bears the name, he has never renounced his Catholic membership, but he does not practice any more. He is just Catholic by name.
 
CD45 said:
Good point. A Cold Catholic probably has no interest in his kids being confirmed and probably not only doesn’t go to Mass, but is “relieved” he/she doesn’t attend—due to negative previous experiences and a general loss of religious conviction
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And do you think he will always claim his catholicity? if asked if he is a believer will he say yes?
A Catholic who has become an atheist is no longer a Catholic at all, so we can not say that he is a “cold” Catholic, because even though Catholic is cold, he is still a Catholic, and that is why we are Catholic is we still believe, it is the Faith that defines religious affiliation
 
This is nicely said. 🙂

I’ll add that I think that you–as in “anyone”–can also be just kind of “indifferent,” as in just not really caring like one should, too.

You don’t put forth the best effort and make the best effort that you reasonably can, into practicing the Catholic faith that one should, if one wants to be a practicing Catholic. You can be sort of “half-hearted” about it, so to speak. That’s what I think.
 
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idifacs_john said:
Better to be lukewarm than not warm at all.
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Hi. No, it is not. The context of this is that lukewarmness has no value as compared to hot (cleanse and putify) or cold (refresh and enliven). Remember this was about the Lord speaking to the Laodiceans, who understood the Lord’s analogy to the water which they drank from the spring via an aqueduct some six miles away.
 
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