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Mark1970 said:
I have recently read the book Silence and had considered seeing the film.

What I would like to mention, as i couldn’t find it mentioned in previous posts and some people may not know this, is that the novel and film are partly based on real-life events.

Here is a link to a (long) article covering the real-life apostasy of Cristovao Ferriera, the character played by Liam Neeson in the film: pweb.cc.sophia.ac.jp/britto/xavier/cieslik/cie_ferreira.pdf

This is a link to the Wikipedia article about him: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crist%C3%B3v%C3%A3o_Ferreira

The character of Fr Rodriguez (Andrew Garfield in the film) is based on the real-life priest Guiseppe Chiara:

wiki.samurai-archives.com/index.php?title=Giuseppe_Chiara
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Chiara
catholic.org/news/ae/movies/story.php?id=56403

I don’t know whether these priests actually met in real life or what the circumstances of their apostasy were - but there seems to be some debate about whether at least one on them may have repented at the end of their life.
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thanks for sharing! I liked the movie.
 
7_Sorrows said:
thanks for sharing! I liked the movie.
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Thought it may be interesting for people who had heard of the novel and/or film but didn’t know the background to it. As I mentioned, I have recently read the novel - I think that “thought-provoking” would be the best description I could give especially knowing the context. For me it became a bit of an examination of conscience - how would I have reacted in that situation?
 
Mark1970 said:
Thought it may be interesting for people who had heard of the novel and/or film but didn’t know the background to it. As I mentioned, I have recently read the novel - I think that “thought-provoking” would be the best description I could give especially knowing the context. For me it became a bit of an examination of conscience - how would I have reacted in that situation?
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exactly.
 
I read this morning on a post in the ‘First Things’ blog that Silence made only a paltry $7 million (and it cost $45 million to make), despite having a big name director and cast. Also it wasn’t nominated for any Academy Awards. So it seems hard not to conclude it has been a bit of a flop, deservedly or not.

I know what kept me away was what I expected to be gruesomely authentic torture scenes and the overall depressing tone of the film. I may still try to watch it at some point; I do think it probably has some redeeming qualities.
 
tomarin said:
I read this morning on a post in the ‘First Things’ blog that Silence made only a paltry $7 million (and it cost $45 million to make), despite having a big name director and cast. Also it wasn’t nominated for any Academy Awards. So it seems hard not to conclude it has been a bit of a flop, deservedly or not…
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It was nominated for Best Cinematography… and only that.

I was disappointed when it was the only category it was nominated in. That and Amy Adams not being given a nomination for Best Actress of her heart-piercing performance in Arrival.

I wouldn’t call Silence a flop. That’s too harsh of a word. I’ll say that it’s due to the circumstances it is in. Being a movie buff who loves watching the Oscars I’ve noticed that the December-January film season is when you have a torrent of Oscar-bait movies premiering. Often it’s a (metaphorical) bloodbath. Silence happened to be in the middle of it, unfortunately, and it lead to its demise. If it was released in September or October it would have had a better chance. 😦
 
CatholicWhovian said:
It was nominated for Best Cinematography… and only that.

I was disappointed when it was the only category it was nominated in. That and Amy Adams not being given a nomination for Best Actress of her heart-piercing performance in Arrival.

I wouldn’t call Silence a flop. That’s too harsh of a word. I’ll say that it’s due to the circumstances it is in. Being a movie buff who loves watching the Oscars I’ve noticed that the December-January film season is when you have a torrent of Oscar-bait movies premiering. Often it’s a (metaphorical) bloodbath. Silence happened to be in the middle of it, unfortunately, and it lead to its demise. If it was released in September or October it would have had a better chance. 😦
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It’s basically a flop if it doesn’t make back its budget, no? I’m glad it was nominated for one academy award, at least. I have a fondness for the novel it was based on, and I do think Scorcese is trying to grapple with his spiritual identity and with meaning in general in a way that it more honest and authentically Catholic than he did when he made ‘The Last Temptation of Christ.’

The blogger at First Things opined that it failed to find an audience and/or didn’t garner many awards because it ‘was too Christian for Hollywood and too Hollywood for Christians’ or something like that.
 
tomarin said:
I read this morning on a post in the ‘First Things’ blog that Silence made only a paltry $7 million (and it cost $45 million to make), despite having a big name director and cast. Also it wasn’t nominated for any Academy Awards. So it seems hard not to conclude it has been a bit of a flop, deservedly or not.

I know what kept me away was what I expected to be gruesomely authentic torture scenes and the overall depressing tone of the film. I may still try to watch it at some point; I do think it probably has some redeeming qualities.
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there was really only one scene that I found gruesome.
this type of movie does not have broad appeal. people interested in history or religion would be drawn to see the movie. I am not sure Scorcese made the movie expecting to make a lot of money.
Many Catholics were warned not to see the movie if their faith is weak.
I thought it was a good movie and certainly felt I got my money’s worth more than I did with Arrival. That movie was just awful. I can’t believe it has even been nominated for any awards. Silence deserves more awards or nominations than Arrival.
 
7_Sorrows said:
there was really only one scene that I found gruesome.
this type of movie does not have broad appeal. people interested in history or religion would be drawn to see the movie. I am not sure Scorcese made the movie expecting to make a lot of money.
Many Catholics were warned not to see the movie if their faith is weak.
I thought it was a good movie and certainly felt I got my money’s worth more than I did with Arrival. That movie was just awful. I can’t believe it has even been nominated for any awards. Silence deserves more awards or nominations than Arrival.
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Thanks, your (name removed by moderator)ut made me feel I should watch ‘Silence.’ I’m very squeamish about watching realistic violence and suffering on television and in movies. I never used to be like that but ever since having children I’ve become perhaps a little too empathetic towards others’ suffering. I can’t even watch an episode of ‘The Sopranos’ without being on edge the whole time and I wouldn’t even try ‘Game of Thrones’ based on what I’ve read about it, if I had HBO that is.
 
In Scorsese’s adaptation of Endo’s novel, a stark depiction of statism against religion

Decades in the making, Martin Scorsese’s Silence, based on Shūsaku Endō’s 1966 novel, about 17th-century Jesuit missionaries to Japan, is ambitious and alternately gorgeous and horrifying. It is surprising that a film of this magnitude would be all but completely snubbed for Oscar nominations, particularly in the now-expanded category of Best Picture, where the competition is soft indeed. Silence’s sole Oscar nomination is for cinematography, and that is well deserved. With its focus on valleys and mountains shrouded in fog, the film often has the look of the movies of the great Japanese filmmaker Akira Kurosawa.

Read more at: nationalreview.com/article/445194/silence-movie-martin-scorsese-shusaku-endo-novel-christianity-japan-statism-review?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Saturday%20Top%20Stories%20Recurring%202017-02-25&utm_term=VDHM
 
Just a question to anyone who has watched the movie. Does the Japanese dialogue have any subtitles?
 
I still haven’t watched Silence because I couldn’t find a way to watch it. The DVD’s going to be out at the end of the month, so that’s promising.

dvdsreleasedates.com/movies/6766/silence

Which brings me to my question:
Is it wise to watch Silence on Good Friday?

I’ll be staying home for Good Friday, because usually we would have a tradition (that’s practiced by us Filipinos on Holy Week) of visiting seven churches on Good Friday. But since I’m a bit worried of my father’s health because he’s getting old, I feel that it’s best to stay at home?
 
CatholicWhovian said:
I still haven’t watched Silence because I couldn’t find a way to watch it. The DVD’s going to be out at the end of the month, so that’s promising.

dvdsreleasedates.com/movies/6766/silence

Which brings me to my question:
Is it wise to watch Silence on Good Friday?

I’ll be staying home for Good Friday, because usually we would have a tradition (that’s practiced by us Filipinos on Holy Week) of visiting seven churches on Good Friday. But since I’m a bit worried of my father’s health because he’s getting old, I feel that it’s best to stay at home?
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I thought it was a well done film. But It was too depressing for me to watch so close to Easter. Good Friday is a very depressing day but it was also a great victory for humanity at the same time.
 
A caller asked CA’s Chief Apologist about the plot of this movie on a Recent Catholic Answers Live Open Forum.

It was the first question asked in the radio program:

Catholic Answers Live Open Forum June 8, 2017 edition:

00:57 - Under canon law, is an act of apostasy in defense of the life of another considered a venial or a mortal sin?

catholic.com/audio/cal/8053

Pauline Moral Principle: “One should never do evil so that good may come.”
 
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