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If someone says thats theyve been sinful,or have been living in sin ,or has committed sin,does it mean that theyve fallen into the sexual sins and have been sexually immoral?

Is sin defined as sexual immorality or sodomistic sins?

If someone says “i fell into sin today”,does that mean normally that they fell into sexual sin or masturbation?
 
In an old fashioned sense the term “living in sin” meant that a couple was living together without being married, but it can also mean other sinful activity in today’s world. It is possible that people who have committed sexual sin may say they have fallen into sin or been sinful, but people can say that about any sort of sin and certainly not just sexual sins. So I would say that when someone refers to having been sinful, living in sin, or having fallen into sin they could be referring to any sort of sin and not just sexual sin. For a glutton to have overeaten is to have fallen into the sin of gluttony. For the liar to have told a whopper is to have committed the sin of lying. For the gossip to be living in sin is to be focused on talking about his or her neighbor. There are many more sins out there than just those of a sexual nature.

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Jennifer
 
Paul_theApostle said:
If someone says thats theyve been sinful,or have been living in sin ,or has committed sin,does it mean that theyve fallen into the sexual sins and have been sexually immoral?

Is sin defined as sexual immorality or sodomistic sins?

If someone says “i fell into sin today”,does that mean normally that they fell into sexual sin or masturbation?
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“Living in sin” is about the only phrase I myself associate with sexual immorality. I personally wouldn’t automatically presume that one meant sex if they said they’ve been sinful or committed sin, since there are so many other sinful activities other than just sex.
 
Many times friends of mine would say to me “i fell today” or “i sinned earlier” and by knowing what they were struggling with,i knew they meant sexual sin or watching porn and masturbating.

As it seemed that most of our struggles were against staying pure and struggling to keep away from these things.

Maybe im thinking that when we fall into sexually we are falling into the lowest sin,and it seems that the devil most of all is trying most hardest to corrupt our sexual nature and the greatest and worst form of sin to fall into is sexual sin because it is a sin against our own body as St Paul says.

I guess the devil is the biggest sinner and yet he is just spirit and doesnt commit sexual sin as he has no body…
 
Paul_theApostle said:
If someone says thats theyve been sinful,or have been living in sin ,or has committed sin,does it mean that theyve fallen into the sexual sins and have been sexually immoral?

Is sin defined as sexual immorality or sodomistic sins?

If someone says “i fell into sin today”,does that mean normally that they fell into sexual sin or masturbation?
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No.
 
Paul_theApostle said:
Many times friends of mine would say to me “i fell today” or “i sinned earlier” and by knowing what they were struggling with,i knew they meant sexual sin or watching porn and masturbating.

As it seemed that most of our struggles were against staying pure and struggling to keep away from these things.

Maybe im thinking that when we fall into sexually we are falling into the lowest sin,and it seems that the devil most of all is trying most hardest to corrupt our sexual nature and the greatest and worst form of sin to fall into is sexual sin because it is a sin against our own body as St Paul says.

I guess the devil is the biggest sinner and yet he is just spirit and doesnt commit sexual sin as he has no body…
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I don’t know that sexual sins are the “lowest sins”, but I guess that’s another discussion entirely. I would say that a person who says they fell into sin is not generally confessing to adultary or pornography. They might have experienced lust in a milder form, realized they were gossiping, told a lie, or got angry with their mother. There are any number of things it could be.
 
Paul_theApostle said:
Many times friends of mine would say to me “i fell today” or “i sinned earlier” and by knowing what they were struggling with,i knew they meant sexual sin or watching porn and masturbating.

As it seemed that most of our struggles were against staying pure and struggling to keep away from these things.

Maybe im thinking that when we fall into sexually we are falling into the lowest sin,and it seems that the devil most of all is trying most hardest to corrupt our sexual nature and the greatest and worst form of sin to fall into is sexual sin because it is a sin against our own body as St Paul says.

I guess the devil is the biggest sinner and yet he is just spirit and doesnt commit sexual sin as he has no body…
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The part you have to be cautious about is that you have knowledge of your friend’s temptations. If you heard someone that you don’t know very well or has only revealed that they have a situation that is sinful, you can’t automatically presume they mean its a sexual nature. Their temptation may be drugs or gambling or some other sin they repeatedly are trying to avoid.
 
The thing with sexuality is that it exists in every man and women ,and every single human being has to face the challenges of sexual temptation,and the challenge of remaining pure.

Its like a common thing amongst all men/women.

whereas other things like murder or gambling or overeating or whatever other sin may affect one person but not bother another…

so sinning in the flesh can be common to every man and women which perhaps makes it a most common sin .
 
Paul_theApostle said:
If someone says thats theyve been sinful,or have been living in sin ,or has committed sin,does it mean that theyve fallen into the sexual sins and have been sexually immoral?
Is sin defined as sexual immorality or sodomistic sins?
If someone says “i fell into sin today”,does that mean normally that they fell into sexual sin or masturbation?
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There are many sins other than sexual sins.
For example: Mortal (grave) sins include but are not limited to: missing Mass on Sunday without a good excuse, commiting a Scandal which can lead others to sin, Sacrilege, lies or gossip which damages another, murder including abortion, coveting, euthanasia, abusive alcohol and drug use, etc.

We must not use “rash judgement” which is also a sin.

Grave sexual sins include: adultary, fornication, homosexuality, masturbation, viewing pornography.
 
Paul_theApostle said:
The thing with sexuality is that it exists in every man and women ,and every single human being has to face the challenges of sexual temptation,and the challenge of remaining pure.

Its like a common thing amongst all men/women.

whereas other things like murder or gambling or overeating or whatever other sin may affect one person but not bother another…

so sinning in the flesh can be common to every man and women which perhaps makes it a most common sin .
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I wouldn’t be so quick to assume that any sin affects everyone or only one person and not another…we don’t come with labels on our foreheads declaring our sins. I’d be really careful about assuming what temptations other people are dealing with on a daily basis.
 
PatriceA said:
I wouldn’t be so quick to assume that any sin affects everyone or only one person and not another…we don’t come with labels on our foreheads declaring our sins. I’d be really careful about assuming what temptations other people are dealing with on a daily basis.
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Every man and women has the sexual inclination rooted in their souls,

sure some may live pure and chaste their whole life and not suffer sexual temptation,

But the challenge to either remain chaste and pure or sexually immoral exists in every human.

whereas say drug abuse or murder may never attack or tempt every single human…
 
Paul_theApostle said:
If someone says thats theyve been sinful,or have been living in sin ,or has committed sin,does it mean that theyve fallen into the sexual sins and have been sexually immoral?

Is sin defined as sexual immorality or sodomistic sins?

If someone says “i fell into sin today”,does that mean normally that they fell into sexual sin or masturbation?
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Not given your age, it is somewhat complex in answering your question, but I will try.

There are different stages of sin, so in essence, we cannot consume it was sinful.

Yes, sin is immoral. Your c oncept of falling into sin and thinking it is masturbation is absoltely wrong. That does not mean if you sin you masturbated; furthermore, you would know if you masturbated or not. Living in sin would be you never confessed your sexual
situation. Again, it depends what sinful action you did. If you have impure acts and think of these acts, this would be sinful. Your question is to broad, but I believe you are at the age of reason and know if sinful or not… If .living together than this is living in sin; or if you are addicteed to porn this is living in sin. If you are this complexed, it probably would better to ask your pastor because he is trained for this things.

JESUS I TRUST IN YOU,
 
Paul_theApostle said:
The thing with sexuality is that it exists in every man and women ,and every single human being has to face the challenges of sexual temptation,and the challenge of remaining pure.

Its like a common thing amongst all men/women.

whereas other things like murder or gambling or overeating or whatever other sin may affect one person but not bother another…

so sinning in the flesh can be common to every man and women which perhaps makes it a most common sin .
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True, but there are other sins that are equally common. For example, anger, gossip, envy. I wouldn’t assume which sin a person is referring to unless it is within a certain context of your conversation. In other words, don’t assume that everyone who says “I fell into sin, today.” means that they went and got a hooker.
 
Allegra said:
True, but there are other sins that are equally common. For example, anger, gossip, envy. I wouldn’t assume which sin a person is referring to unless it is within a certain context of your conversation. In other words, don’t assume that everyone who says “I fell into sin, today.” means that they went and got a hooker.
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Exactly.

OP, you are missing the point. You should never conclude or assume what the other person means by saying “they were sinful”. Unless they want to reveal their private details, do not jump to the conclusion that the other person automatically is talking about a sin of sexual nature.

I have to wonder, why do you know all your friends are struggling with issues of sexual immorality? Do you discuss your sins in great length with each other or are offering support to each other?
 
Paul_theApostle said:
If someone says thats theyve been sinful,or have been living in sin ,or has committed sin,does it mean that theyve fallen into the sexual sins and have been sexually immoral?

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there are 10 commandments and many more ways of sinning than against the 6th and 9th commandments. As to what a person means when they say “I have sinned” best not to judge, and probably to remind them the best place for sharing that information is the confessional. “Living in sin” as a colloquial expresion usually means a man and woman living together as a couple in every sense of the word, without benefit of marriage.
 
Paul_theApostle said:
If someone says thats theyve been sinful,or have been living in sin ,or has committed sin,does it mean that theyve fallen into the sexual sins and have been sexually immoral?

Is sin defined as sexual immorality or sodomistic sins?

If someone says “i fell into sin today”,does that mean normally that they fell into sexual sin or masturbation?
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Paul_theApostle said:
If someone says thats theyve been sinful,or have been living in sin ,or has committed sin,does it mean that theyve fallen into the sexual sins and have been sexually immoral?

Is sin defined as sexual immorality or sodomistic sins?

If someone says “i fell into sin today”,does that mean normally that they fell into sexual sin or masturbation?
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If you have an impure act and you dwell on it it is a sin; why would you think if someone said t hey fell into sin they masturbated–you do what masturbation is?

Looking at porn is sinful; living with your girlfriend is sinful’, watching X-rated m,ovies is sinful; having sexual thoughts about your girlfriend is sinful.
Sin is con sidered immoral. I think it would be best to go and see your pastor and he will be gentle with you. It is better to talk with someone in person. Don’t be afraid–God is waiting for you and PLEASE go and you can be at rest.

JESUS I TRUST IN YOU
 
I agree with pretty much 90% of the people here. There are many other forms of sin not just sexual sin.
 
PatriceA said:
Exactly.

OP, you are missing the point. You should never conclude or assume what the other person means by saying “they were sinful”. Unless they want to reveal their private details, do not jump to the conclusion that the other person automatically is talking about a sin of sexual nature.

I have to wonder, why do you know all your friends are struggling with issues of sexual immorality? Do you discuss your sins in great length with each other or are offering support to each other?
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mostly just offering support for eachother,like if my friend said hes not feeling too good today ,and hed mention that he “fell” earlier or so,it was just an expression to say that hed fallen into masturbation and watching porn,

I would be completely dumb if i thought sexual sin was the only sin,maybe ive heard too many times the expressions of friends linking their “falls” or “sin” with sexual sin.

maybe im linking the “fall of man” to the sexual sin and wondering if they are related or linked,

If we say we fell over while we were running or that we fell off the roof,it would imply that we fell with our bodies off the roof or tree or while tripping over,

So mentioning “fall” in a spiritual sense ,maybe im relating it to falling over with our bodies which St Paul says that when we commit sexual sin “we are sinning with our bodies and sinning against our bodies”

So ‘Falling’ into sin would mean falling sexually,with and against our bodies

anyway you dont have to get mad i learn by asking things and from what people post,

as i said i know the Devil fell from pride and he has no body to commit immorality with…

ive been wollowing in sexual passions and sins for a long time but am getting better and appreciate any knowledge and undersanding of things of the Spiritual life.
 
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