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Hey!

So this may be a bit confusing but I will explain the situation as best as I can. So I have a bad habit on cheating on tests and quizzes. Last month, when I was at confession I withheld the sin because I was afraid of what would happen. A week and half later I went back and confessed that I withheld the sin and confessed the sin on cheating on my tests and quizzes. I was fine afterwards for like 5 mins when I started to get confused and freak out.

This is the part I’m confused about. Part of me thought that I committed the sin of getting communion during the state of mortal sin. But then I relooked at the requirements of a mortal sin and decided that cheating on my tests and quizzes wasn’t a mortal sin because I didn’t have full will (it’s a habit that I have a hard time controlling). And I don’t know whether or not withholding a sin from a priest counts as a mortal sin. I guess my question would be: did I commit a mortal sin and in turn commit the sin of getting communion in the state of mortal sin?? And if so, was the sin of getting communion during a state of mortal sin forgiven during my last confession even though at the time I didn’t know if I did committed it? Help? :confused:

P.S. Sorry if this is at any point confusing.
 
You could say the next time you’re at Confession that you failed to mention you’d cheated on your tests, the last time you confessed, and have cheated at tests in the past. I don’t know if it was mortal to begin with but it might have been grave. You could tell the priest that you weren’t sure about the severity of the sin in the first place.
 
Absolution remits all sin, including those that we do not recall or are conscious of during Confession.

It’s a good idea to mention such sins during a subsequent Confession, but it is not required.
 
DavidFilmer said:
Absolution remits all sin, including those that we do not recall or are conscious of during Confession.

It’s a good idea to mention such sins during a subsequent Confession, but it is not required.
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If he hid the sin then he needs to bring it up at the next that he did not mention it at his previous confession, and then had communion.

If it was truly that he wasn’t sure of the severity of the sin and so didn’t bring it up then you might be right. I would still mention all this at the next one to be sure. Because the prayer: “For these and all my other sins…” covers the ones we have forgotten or venial sins that are not as serious.

This all comes down to how grave cheating is. If it had been confessed then the priest probably would have told him if it was mortal or not or he could have asked even.

However, there are some sins which are venial and these don’t necessarily have to be mentioned at confession unless they were grave, or really badly affected someone. A good Act of Contrition before Mass is enough for many venial sins.

I’d be interested hearing other opinions on this…
 
CatholicCraze said:
Hey!

So this may be a bit confusing but I will explain the situation as best as I can. So I have a bad habit on cheating on tests and quizzes. Last month, when I was at confession I withheld the sin because I was afraid of what would happen. A week and half later I went back and confessed that I withheld the sin and confessed the sin on cheating on my tests and quizzes. I was fine afterwards for like 5 mins when I started to get confused and freak out.

This is the part I’m confused about. Part of me thought that I committed the sin of getting communion during the state of mortal sin. But then I relooked at the requirements of a mortal sin and decided that cheating on my tests and quizzes wasn’t a mortal sin because I didn’t have full will (it’s a habit that I have a hard time controlling). And I don’t know whether or not withholding a sin from a priest counts as a mortal sin. I guess my question would be: did I commit a mortal sin and in turn commit the sin of getting communion in the state of mortal sin?? And if so, was the sin of getting communion during a state of mortal sin forgiven during my last confession even though at the time I didn’t know if I did committed it? Help? :confused:

P.S. Sorry if this is at any point confusing.
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EVERYTHING IS A MORTAL SIN!!

Just kidding.

It’s not so easy to commit a mortal sin. it means going to hell! It means total separation from God. Some people think everything is a mortal sin and most of us are going straight to hell.

Many scriptures come to mind, but today it’s 2 Peter 5:4-7

I know the next scripture talks about the devil lurking. But it’s not so easy to devour one who knows Christ.

And with that, I bid you all a good day.

Fran
 
frangiuliano115 said:
EVERYTHING IS A MORTAL SIN!!

Just kidding.

It’s not so easy to commit a mortal sin. it means going to hell! It means total separation from God. Some people think everything is a mortal sin and most of us are going straight to hell.

Many scriptures come to mind, but today it’s 2 Peter 5:4-7

I know the next scripture talks about the devil lurking. But it’s not so easy to devour one who knows Christ.

And with that, I bid you all a good day.

Fran
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It’s actually very easy to commit a mortal sin. It’s also very easy to not commit a mortal sin.
 
friardchips said:
If he hid the sin then he needs to bring it up at the next that he did not mention it at his previous confession, and then had communion.

If it was truly that he wasn’t sure of the severity of the sin and so didn’t bring it up then you might be right. I would still mention all this at the next one to be sure. Because the prayer: “For these and all my other sins…” covers the ones we have forgotten or venial sins that are not as serious.

This all comes down to how grave cheating is. If it had been confessed then the priest probably would have told him if it was mortal or not or he could have asked even.

However, there are some sins which are venial and these don’t necessarily have to be mentioned at confession unless they were grave, or really badly affected someone. A good Act of Contrition before Mass is enough for many venial sins.

I’d be interested hearing other opinions on this…
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I thought that he said he felt guilty for withholding the sin, and so he went back and confessed about his withholding and then confessed about cheating.

If I understand correctly, he is asking whether or not he needs to confess for going to communion in a state of possible mortal sin.
 
Rbaker said:
I thought that he said he felt guilty for withholding the sin, and so he went back and confessed about his withholding and then confessed about cheating.

If I understand correctly, he is asking whether or not he needs to confess for going to communion in a state of possible mortal sin.
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Yes you are correct. I apologize that I was clear. Ill try to reword it. My question is whether or not either of those sins, cheating on my tests and quizzes or withholding the sin from a priest, were mortal. While yes I understand that those two sins have been forgiven, I’m confused on whether or not I got communion in a state of mortal sin if one of those sins was. If so, then at my last confession, I didn’t realize this till after. Was the sin forgiven or should I confess the getting communion in state of mortal sin at my next one? Hopefully that makes a bit more sense. Thank you all for your responses!
 
Rbaker said:
I thought that he said he felt guilty for withholding the sin, and so he went back and confessed about his withholding and then confessed about cheating.

If I understand correctly, he is asking whether or not he needs to confess for going to communion in a state of possible mortal sin.
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Okay. :doh2:

Then maybe he needs to speak to a priest or just go to confession tomorrow and say: “I might have received communion in a state of possible mortal sin”. This might also be an opportunity to ask the priest the severity of cheating at tests and whether saying an act of contrition is enough before mass.
 
friardchips said:
Okay. :doh2:

Then maybe he needs to speak to a priest or just go to confession tomorrow and say: “I might have received communion in a state of possible mortal sin”. Then its covered. This might be an opportunity to ask the priest the severity of cheating at tests and whether saying an act of contrition is enough before mass.
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Yeah I agree.
 
Rbaker said:
That made zero sense
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Mortal sin is a deliberate choice we make to commit a grave sin. We can easily choose to say no to God and sin grievously, and commit mortal sin, or we can easily say yes to God and say no to greivous sin and not commit mortal sin. Mortal sin doesn’t happen accidentally
 
friardchips said:
You could say the next time you’re at Confession that you failed to mention you’d cheated on your tests, the last time you confessed, and have cheated at tests in the past. I don’t know if it was mortal to begin with but it might have been grave. You could tell the priest that you weren’t sure about the severity of the sin in the first place.
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None of us has true full will on any sin we commit. That is why we go to confession. We need help to overcome the slavery of sin. If you are cheating on tests you will cheat at work, on you family, and your entire life will be cheating on God.

I don’t have full will over gluttony. It is a struggle from day to day. Just because I don’t have full will of this problem is not going to keep me from having a heart attack.

Cheating is cheating is cheating. We are sinners because we are weak creatures and Satan knows how to use that. Every single time you cheat – confess. Not to do so, will in itself be a sin because you know that it is wrong and you do it anyway.
 
I think the mortal part of cheating is it would depend on how sophisticated a person is in doing this. If it is a quick glance at someone else’s paper, it’s probably venial. If an individual has a major ability to cheat, like going online to get copies of the tests, or helping others to cheat by doing their work for them (for payment), then it could be mortal. I heard where some people actually pay someone to do their college work for them so they don’t have to.
 
Arizona_Fat_Gir said:
I think the mortal part of cheating is it would depend on how sophisticated a person is in doing this. If it is a quick glance at someone else’s paper, it’s probably venial. If an individual has a major ability to cheat, like going online to get copies of the tests, or helping others to cheat by doing their work for them (for payment), then it could be mortal. I heard where some people actually pay someone to do their college work for them so they don’t have to.
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Probably? Maybe for a 4th grader. Read Luke 16:10 ““He who is faithful in a very little thing is faithful also in much; and he who is unrighteous in a very little thing is unrighteous also in much.”

There is no probability mentioned in what Jesus said.

The difference between an adult who peeks a look and the one who buys the answers is the degree in which he or she is afraid of getting caught.
 
Talk it over with your friend, Jesus. I bet He will tell you what is the best way to handle this. He is your friend, you know, and not your accountant of sin.
 
HelenRose said:
Probably? Maybe for a 4th grader. Read Luke 16:10 ““He who is faithful in a very little thing is faithful also in much; and he who is unrighteous in a very little thing is unrighteous also in much.”

There is no probability mentioned in what Jesus said.

The difference between an adult who peeks a look and the one who buys the answers is the degree in which he or she is afraid of getting caught.
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I totally agree with this. Cheating is cheating. I think the only form that is questionable when it comes to online tests/quizzes. If the teacher does not say anything, I think it is totally acceptable to use your notes while taking the tests. It seems to me that if the teacher is too lazy you come to class and watch you take the test or print out some tests, then they are basically inviting you to look up the answers
 
kdfphd said:
Talk it over with your friend, Jesus. I bet He will tell you what is the best way to handle this. He is your friend, you know, and not your accountant of sin.
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You seem to agree with Pope Francis.

He said, I think just this week, kdfphd’s very words - that God is not an accountant. Wish I could remember where. I’ll be some here could find it on the net.

And everyone should read his homily at the Papal audience in Rome this Wed, Nov. 18. It was about the “door” and the doorkeeper and the building.

Very interesting.
 
If you deliberately withheld during confession that you have been cheating on your tests, you need to divulge that clearly- explain that you deliberately withheld it, and you received communion after, and you aren’t sure if it’s a mortal sin so you don’t know if you compounded it by receiving the Eucharist.

As far as cheating not being of full will, I guess I don’t understand that. How can it not be done with the full consent of the will? How does cheating become a habit that you just do without full consent of the will? I think you need to really think about that and ask yourself if that’s true, or an excuse. It seems like cheating would take some type of effort and thus would be done with the full consent of the will- either deliberately looking at someone else’s paper, or having written cheats, or using your phone to cheat, or something. One way or the other, you could stop. If you look at other people’s work, sit somewhere where no one is near you. If you write out cheat notes for yourself that you use, don’t do it for the next test. If you use your phone, leave your phone at home or in your car or locker. Whatever method it is your using to cheat, there is a counter-measure you can take to stop.

Additionally- I’m not sure what you’re cheating at, but there may be an additional concern here. I remember a thread by a nurse who admitted she’d cheated on a critical exam and didn’t actually know how to do what she was tested on. Would you want her for a nurse? Whatever material it is you’re cheating on, it’s undoubtedly putting you in a position to advance in school or in a career. How is your cheating going to affect you? How will it affect others?
 
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