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Is it a sin or temptation to want to or to ask God for death?
 
Why would you want to die? The Lord has so many wonderful things planned for you! Please, reconsider your path.

Heavenly Father, thank You for blessing our dear friend in all ways. Amen.
 
NiceMimi said:
Why would you want to die? The Lord has so many wonderful things planned for you! Please, reconsider your path.

Heavenly Father, thank You for blessing our dear friend in all ways. Amen.
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I was just a question; and the question still remains.
Is it a sin or temptation?
 
I think this is a temptation
Pray God to put peace in your heart and keep your life between his hands.
 
danielle90 said:
Is it a sin or temptation to want to or to ask God for death?
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To want to die? I’d say it is a temptation. One is tempted to do something destructive, usually as an escape to some sort of manifestation of pain.

To ask God for death? Theologians may disagree, but my first inclination is no, that in and of itself is not a sin either. I could understand why someone might say it’s a sin, but having working with enough people who are suicidal I don’t see it that way. I see it as a person’s attempt at dealing with loss of hope and increasing depths of despair. I’d rather someone asks God for death than to go run in front of a train.

If you are or know someone who is actually thinking this way, then feel free to call upon me; I used to be a youth crisis hotline counselor, and I would be happy to talk to them.

Alan
 
Read the book of Tobit. In Chapter 3, both Tobit and Sarah pray for death.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
You’re asking God to take away the great gift he gave you,…life.

Ingratitude toward God is sinful is akin to rejection.

Jim
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I can see your point. But losing your life as you know it, in and of itself, can be either good or bad depending on how you choose to go (or stay).

I say “as you know it”’ because if someone wants to die as a means of escape, IMO there are two ways to go. Either end life, or fix it. A third option is to just hang on, and that’s one that can keep us surviving for years through hardships at times, when the other two are not seen as possible and/or desirable.

I really like your location “in the kingdom.” Actually I’d like to copycat you on it.

But to get into the kingdom, we have to let go of our “lives as we know it.” And this is what I’m getting at. We can escape the pain we are in by being transformed into a new being – which involves losing our false selves and letting our true selves emerge, even as we seek Divine Union. When you get to that stage you will no longer have the desire to exit life because it becomes wonderful even in its very difficult times, and once you go its gets better…

Matt 13:11-12a
He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance."

So there are multiple ways to escape misery:
  1. fix the problem(s) if possible (temporary solution).
  2. accept the problems (longer term).
  3. lose your sensation of misery come what may, and keep your physical body (ideal).
  4. lose your physical body. Game over.
I have seriously contemplated 4, God knows I tried to do 1, and for a while I coasted by doing 2. But now I’ve chosen 3, and really like it. I consider it the ideal for my physical lifetime. I do not consider pondering any options as a possible solution to a real or perceived problem, as sinful, in my eyes. In the eyes of the Church, that’s out of my authority level to determine – there may be sin there, but I don’t see it – like a transparent blemish to me. If you point it out I can probably look at it at an angle with the light and see it.

As an engineer I like to look at all options I can think of and then narrow them down based on desirability. To me if some of the options are terrible, that makes the ones we choose seem even better. Additional or opposing opinions welcome. 🙂

Alan
 
Of course the fith option is to pick up the cross of daily
life and offer your suffering to God. You can offer it for
the souls of others who lack faith.

It’s what St. Theresa did in her life.

Jim
 
Theresa of Avila:

Such yearning for my Spouse have I,
Dying because I do not die.

feastofsaints.com/teresadie.htm

I used to wish that I could be in heaven with the Lord instead of here in this vale of tears. I don’t think a wish is a sin. :twocents:
 
I think about death often. I sometimes think do I want to die to escape the pain in this life, or because I want to be with God and just skip all this other stuff, since God is my sole end and my only purpose in life. I don’t know if asking/praying for death is a sin or temptation, but I know that everyone has those feelings. You just have to reject them.
 
Roxygirl1488 said:
I think about death often. I sometimes think do I want to die to escape the pain in this life, or because I want to be with God and just skip all this other stuff, since God is my sole end and my only purpose in life. I don’t know if asking/praying for death is a sin or temptation, but I know that everyone has those feelings. You just have to reject them.
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Seek Divine Union. There are ways of doing this. You can be united with God even now, before you die. You set the stage, God decides if/when/how to gift you with it. It’s all legit.

Alan
 
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