Since the Watchtower organization claims "apostolic succession

[Bill_Pick]

who was it that “passed the torch of God’s Spirit” to C. T. Russel when he founded the organization? What was the name of this individual?

 

[Among_Strangers]

who was it that “passed the torch of God’s Spirit” to C. T. Russel when he founded the organization? What was the name of this individual?

I was raised a JW but have been out of it for over 25 years. In my time in I never heard the JW’s make any claim whatsoever to Apostalic Succession.

 

[Bill_Pick]

i got this from one of the jw in another tread,thank you for your answer,peace

 

[Eucharisted]

Apostolic Succession is the handing on of apostolic preaching and authority from the Apostles to their successors the bishops through the laying on of hands, as a permanent office in the Church (CCC 77, 861-2).

In laymen’s terms, Apostolic Succession is the succession (handing on) of the Apostolic teaching authority on to the men who succeed the Apostles, called bishops (Tit 1:5-7), through the laying on of hands (1 Tim 5:22), and the office of bishop is permanent in the Church (1 Tim 3:1).

 

[Bill_Pick]

thank you for your answer but i know what AS is i was trying to see what the JW had to say as one told me they had AS. thanks again for the post

 

[excaliber]

thank you for your answer but i know what AS is i was trying to see what the JW had to say as one told me they had AS. thanks again for the post

In 1914 God selected the Group as the one truly seeking him.

There was nothing handed down, because the group belief is that what is handed down is corrupted.

There was no apparations or miracles, or voices recorded.
The Group COMPLETELY TRUSTS
the leadership, and don’t question them.

To make a long story short, the group feels like they MUST be guided by God because of the churches ability to preach from door to door despite persecution.

The group feels that there bible understanding far surpasses anyone in christendom, and that obviously makes them chosen by god.

It comes down to the fact that they TRUST the interpretation of the leadership, not apostolic succession.

That information is in “the proclaimers book” and all jw’s have access to it, so who ever told you that knew it was not exactly true.
However Jw’s will say things like that to bate you into getting in a debate with them. If you bite the bate they have many books and a class they attend once a week to teach them how to win these debates.

So your whole apostolic succession thread could be the cause of a jw simply saying something to draw you into a debate. LOL

 

[jblake]

excaliber;:

That information is in “the proclaimers book” and all jw’s have access to it, so who ever told you that knew it was not exactly true.

It is included in The Watch Tower Library 2007. As such, your semi-computer literate JW will have access to it.

So your whole apostolic succession thread could be the cause of a jw simply saying something to draw you into a debate.

The following quotation supports that thesis:

It is evident from Peter’s statements that it was then considered that any individual filling the position of an apostle of Jesus Christ must have the qualifications of having been personally conversant with him, having been an eyewitness of his works, his miracles, and particularly his resurrection. In view of this it can be seen that any apostolic succession would in course of time become an impossibility, unless there were divine action to supply these requirements in each individual case. At that particular time before Pentecost, however, there were men meeting these requirements, and two were put forth as suitable for replacing unfaithful Judas. Doubtless having in mind Proverbs 16:33, lots were cast, and Matthias was selected and was thereafter “reckoned along with the eleven apostles.” (Ac 1:23-26) He is thus included among “the twelve” who settled the problem concerning the Greek-speaking disciples (Ac 6:1,2), and evidently Paul includes him in referring to “the twelve” when speaking of Jesus’ postresurrection appearances at 1Corinthians 15:4-8. Thus, when Pentecost arrived, there were 12 apostolic foundations on which the spiritual Israel then formed could rest.

Insight on the Scriptures entry for Apostle

jonathon