Since there are so many threads about homosexuality

[Lokabrenna]

…why not ask questions of an actual homosexual? As long as they’re, you know, clean.

I wasn’t sure where to put this thread. It didn’t seem appropriate for the non-Catholic religions board (unless I was to change it to be about GLBT+ Pagans) or the Back Fence, so I’m sticking it here.

 

[meltzerboy]

…why not ask questions of an actual homosexual? As long as they’re, you know, clean.

I wasn’t sure where to put this thread. It didn’t seem appropriate for the non-Catholic religions board (unless I was to change it to be about GLBT+ Pagans) or the Back Fence, so I’m sticking it here.

It seems you’re attaching a “kick me” sign to yourself. My question is why do you want to be the poster child for gay people on a Catholic Forum?

 

[Sneaux]

It seems you’re attaching a “kick me” sign to yourself. My question is why do you want to be the poster child for gay people on a Catholic Forum?

Psh. Naw. This person isn’t taking my place as poster child.

 

[Sneaux]

…Do you mean asking questions to homosexuals? Or asking questions as a homosexual?..I’m dumb sometimes. ._.

 

[Lokabrenna]

It seems you’re attaching a “kick me” sign to yourself. My question is why do you want to be the poster child for gay people on a Catholic Forum?

shrugs I just figured that, since there are so many threads about homosexuality, and since I seem to get lectured whenever I post in one of them (yes, yes, I know, it’s a CATHOLIC forum), that I might as well start my own. I’m not trying to be anyone’s poster child.

 

[Lokabrenna]

…Do you mean asking questions to homosexuals?

This. If I want to know an answer to something. I ask, like, say, what do you like on your pizza? (I’m a pepperoni and cheese kind of gal, personally.)

 

[meltzerboy]

shrugs I just figured that, since there are so many threads about homosexuality, and since I seem to get lectured whenever I post in one of them (yes, yes, I know, it’s a CATHOLIC forum), that I might as well start my own. I’m not trying to be anyone’s poster child.

OK then, I have two questions: first, when did you know you had same-sex attractions, and second, do you have any opposite-sex attractions as well?

 

[Gertabelle]

Hello.

I love your openness and courage. And I hope and pray my brothers and sisters in Christ show you the respect you deserve as someone made in the image and likeness of God.

I’m not sure I have any questions at present. I lived as an out-loud-and-proud lesbian for about 10 years – went to all the rallies, sang in the choir, bought the t-shirt, had the bumper sticker, signed the petitions, and sent in my donations.

It’s been just over 10 years since I walked away from that label and married my oldest friend – a man – and about six years since that marriage ended. He and I have a beautiful son who is now eight years old and thriving. Well, there’s a whole lot to that story, but the gyst of it is that I am a single mom without the tiniest inkling of same-sex attraction today, am raising my son Catholic (since returning to the Church when he was 2) and am praying like crazy for my ex-husband to return to the Church.

There’s the end of my story (to the present). If you care at all, let me know and I’ll tell you the beginning of the story. I’d love to hear yours.

And just to be straight up with you (no pun intended) (but I do think it’s funny), when people ask me what happened that “changed” me or “healed” me, I don’t have a simple answer. When I was acting as a lesbian, I believed with all my heart (and time and talent and treasure) that I was born that way and could not change.

Here I am today completely the opposite of what I ever thought I’d be. Go figure. Though as a Catholic I’m happy to say it’s all about grace

Anyway, it’s not my intention to convert you. I also practiced Wicca for awhile (not with a teacher) and I know there are some very lovely ideas in the practice. I was particularly drawn to the connection with the natural world, its seasons and cycles. I’m also not trying to change you or heal you.

Just want to open up a conversation with someone from the world I left behind years ago. Perhaps it will help me understand myself a bit better, and you too I would hope

God bless you!

Gertie
(and I’m about to sign off and go home, but I’ll try to check in later tonight or early tomorrow)

 

[Allegra]

I imagine that almost everyone on this thread already knows at least one homosexual person. Studies vary but most suggest that between 8 and 15 % of the population is gay. That means a person is likely to know eight homosexuals for every hundred people they know. Furthermore, these eight homosexuals are likely going to be completely unique, independent individuals with their own opinions and experiences.

 

[Sneaux]

This. If I want to know an answer to something. I ask, like, say, what do you like on your pizza? (I’m a pepperoni and cheese kind of gal, personally.)

Oh I get what ya mean now.

 

[Lokabrenna]

OK then, I have two questions: first, when did you know you had same-sex attractions, and second, do you have any opposite-sex attractions as well?

1. Since about four years ago.
   2 I would rate myself as a 6 on the Kinsey Scale, but in terms of a ratio (like the one found at the TV Tropes Wiki I would identify as a 10/90: “A purely homosexual person who is capable of recognizing attractiveness in the opposite sex, though purely in the aesthetic sense”.

 

[Seeker1961]

Interesting idea. I lived as a “practicing” gay person for about 20 years. I have since made a commitment to the Catholic church and have changed my behavior. I still have many gay friends, I lost a couple when I rejoined the Church-but overall they’ve been supportive.

I do think that a lot of Catholics hold misconceptions about gay people, a lot of gay people hold misconceptions about Catholics and that can cause a lot of hurt feelings. I don’t think anyone means to be hurtful, it’s just not knowing each other. I am of the opinion that more gay people coming to Christ is a good thing, and less hurt feelings is a way to get that started.

As for my “beginning” there was never a time when I didn’t know I was different. I didn’t know there was a word for it until I was a teenager. Raised by two parents who were married 50 years, had a nice suburban upbringing with all the advantages of good Catholic schools and college, swim team, piano lessons and Mass on the weekends. No trauma, no abuse…none of the “causes” people ascribe to homosexuality. It’s just the way I was, there was no moment of choice, the only choice I have ever had is whether or not to act on my attractions.

 

[AnthonySorensen]

It seems you’re attaching a “kick me” sign to yourself. My question is why do you want to be the poster child for gay people on a Catholic Forum?

Catholics have no problem with homosexuals. We have a problem with practicing homosexuals who try to act like it’s normal and should be accepted. Some of them even demand that everyone accept them.

There’s a huge difference.

 

[Crescentinus]

Catholics have no problem with homosexuals. We have a problem with practicing homosexuals who try to act like it’s normal and should be accepted. Some of them even demand that everyone accept them.

There’s a huge difference.

Let me add something to this. There are people (both heterosexual and homosexual) who have this urge of shoving their homosexualist views down people’s throats. I’ve even encountered heterophobic individuals. And yes, they exist.

 

[atheistgirl]

…why not ask questions of an actual homosexual? As long as they’re, you know, clean.

I wasn’t sure where to put this thread. It didn’t seem appropriate for the non-Catholic religions board (unless I was to change it to be about GLBT+ Pagans) or the Back Fence, so I’m sticking it here.

Are you able to choose to stop being a homosexual and *choose *to be a heterosexual?

Sarah x

 

[Lokabrenna]

Are you able to choose to stop being a homosexual and *choose *to be a heterosexual?

Sarah x

concentrates really hard Come on, like men already! blinks I mustn’t be trying hard enough…tries again

Nope, sorry, I don’t think I can. I’ve tried before, it didn’t work then either…

Sorry.

 

[bri89]

Let me add something to this. There are people (both heterosexual and homosexual) who have this urge of shoving their homosexualist views down people’s throats. I’ve even encountered heterophobic individuals. And yes, they exist.

Even though I’ve heard some gay people derisively, but with obvious humorous intent, refer to heterosexuals as “breeders”, I haven’t encountered much heterophobia. The difference is that if or when a homosexual makes derisive comments about heterosexuality there is no real weight behind it. There are no countries that harass, criminalize or execute people because of their heterosexuality. Most hostility to heterosexuals or heterosexuality is usually merely reactionary.

 

[fastenatingguy]

I imagine that almost everyone on this thread already knows at least one homosexual person. Studies vary but most suggest that between 8 and 15 % of the population is gay. That means a person is likely to know eight homosexuals for every hundred people they know. Furthermore, these eight homosexuals are likely going to be completely unique, independent individuals with their own opinions and experiences.

That statistic is likely from a large sampling of people. It is not appropriate to apply it to a small group of people which may be chosen in non-random circumstances. If forget the technical term in applied statistics as that class was 37 years ago.

For example, let’s say that my group of 100 friends are all from my Church. All of them are married and all went to Catholic schools. It is less likely that 8 of them are homosexual.

Now let’s say that I am in the food service industry (as my niece is). She tends to have friends from within that niche group. Where she works there are forty people and she said that ten of them are gay.

Another example: Obama leads in the election polls nationally by about 50 to 45% give or take. I can tell you that of my 100 closest friends, there are about twenty that will vote for Obama, and the rest are voting for Romney. I tend to associate with people that I have shared values with, kinda sorta.

 

[andrewstx]

Why are so many gays pagan and wikkan? Do they decide (mistakenly) that God hates them, so they decide to hate God back?

I knew a young gay man in Heyward who was all involved in wikka and paganism until he met a Jewish gay and “fell in love” he was so infatuated that he had surgery so he could become Jewish.

 

[Crescentinus]

Even though I’ve heard some gay people derisively, but with obvious humorous intent, refer to heterosexuals as “breeders”, I haven’t encountered much heterophobia. The difference is that if or when a homosexual makes derisive comments about heterosexuality there is no real weight behind it. There are no countries that harass, criminalize or execute people because of their heterosexuality. Most hostility to heterosexuals or heterosexuality is usually merely reactionary.

Sadly, I’ve met homosexualists who are very heterophobic. The whole "breeder’ thing for them is what they call their opposition along with the whole latent homosexuality (“you must be secretly gay”) canard. Reactionary or not, it’s still inexcusable.