Sarah,
I am not alone in this belief. I am of the belief that you can change the way you think and believe and if you don’t think that is true then you may want to study St. Paul.
You are misrepresenting my beliefs and as a Catholic to another Catholic I would say that this is tantamount to character assassination. Aquinas says that a persons good name is a precious as their life and to slander the name of another is as sinful as murder. I know you have morals, I know you have scrouples…do you really want to misrepresent me and slander my name?
This thread is about someone speaking about who they are and what they believe. Do you want to derail this Charitable thread over slander?
If you want to challenge this…I do have a thread about choice and that would be the place to full front disagree…not here
I was observing Lokabrenna and musing at the posting and wasn’t planning on posting much of anything…I found it interesting and there appeared to be no controversy…just someone putting themselves out there.
I suggest you dissuade yourself from personal affrontery and take advantage of the opportunity that was presented rather than for something other than what Lokabrenna asked for…
My limited understanding of neuroscience is that through dedication, habit, and time you can change the the flow of your thoughts through different neuro-paths. But that is not easily accomplished and it would probably be disingenuous to refer to automatic homosexual or lesbian attractions as a choice.
And AA drew from Christianity from the Anglican Oxford Movement. The 12 Steps appeal to change through God - essentially through God’s grace and that in combination with working on better character development.
It’s ancient pedigree for change is probably why AA has so high a failure rate. But it’s probably the best thing going thus far with its success rate. Science would approach the problem from a bio-chemical approach - as prescription medicine providing psychiatry does.
The alcoholic may never be able to drink again due to the hazards of the risks from the chemical constitution of their brains when interacting with alcohol.
It’s very possible that for those homosexuals or bisexuals that desire conversion that
some of them may never full find alleviation from their same sex attractions.
But unlike the alcoholic or drug addict homosexuality does not usually result in people losing control over their lives in practical and needs affairs. And unlike the heterosexual pedophile (or pedophile of any sexual orientation) I don’t perceive there a real need to make legal prohibitions against homosexuality in a secular society.
Gay marriage is another matter. I understand the lobbying against it, although, if it will help decrease the number of suicides among homosexuals then I can reconcile with it and support its legalization.
I see benefits and costs to identity politics. In terms of some of the benefits for homosexuals - or bisexuals, or heterosexuals that experiment once or more - is a less cruel society that cast harsh judgements and ostracizes sexual minorities in this case.
But politics being played in the Western World as it is, in the name and pursuit of “progress,” the political and social left will never be satisfied after making homosexual marriage normative and accomplishing financial egalitarianism across the world. Some other “war” will have to be found. I suspect monogamous marriage would be next. And after that something else, and so on and so on.
(Actually, I would argue male humans aren’t naturally monogamous creatures but we’ve forced that on ourselves through indoctrination and discipline. But for some reason Feminist and gay advocacy groups assume heterosexual males are biologically wired to stick with one woman for life - and if not they ought be through pain of social stigmatization)
